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Serum 04.11.2007 04:58 PM

He wasn't mentioning drinking it.. Just bringing it would get them in high hopes..

captain harlock 04.12.2007 03:17 AM

Will the MT version handle over 5s lipos, Prez?

teamtekin 04.12.2007 12:15 PM

We are just starting to test with the larger voltages. 5s should not be a problem, but like all speedos you will need a seperate BEC. Darn hard to step down that much voltage and be able to supply any current.

Hate to admit it but we have a beer fridge next to the driver stand on the carpet track. Legal drinking and driving. With BL in TC cars its get pretty crazy. We engineer a lot better than we drive.

captain harlock 04.12.2007 12:35 PM

Don't drink too much, though.

squeeforever 04.12.2007 12:42 PM

Prez, you think 6S will be a problem? If it can handle 6S, you have my money...

jhautz 04.12.2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
Prez, you think 6S will be a problem? If it can handle 6S, you have my money...

Mine too...



I'll still probably get one if its only 5s. I'd just get more than one if it handled 6s w/ no issues.

teamtekin 04.12.2007 12:57 PM

Pretty much everyone is using 30v fets. 6s is getting pretty close and does not leave much headroom for voltage spikes. Some fets handle over voltage better than others. The manufacturers do not address areas beyond the specs so you just have to test them and see. So far these fets are incredible. The better the circuit the lower the spikes and the better the chances, but braking battery regen can still be an issue. If the battery is full and will not accept the regen charge, the voltage can go really high, really fast. Just like motor flyback current that needs a diode or a rectification circuit like our G11, if you do not give the current somewhere to go then voltage spikes can be off the map.

We will know shortly. I am pretty excited about this market and with everything else finishing up we have time now to look at some new challenges.

IF you really need 6s or more and this will not handle it, we will build one that does. That is why we are here learning.

A4DTM 04.12.2007 01:05 PM

i really need 6s :)

gixxer 04.12.2007 01:24 PM

I would like 6s. But I would settle for one that will do 5s now. If you can do that you might have my money twice. One now and again later when you make a hv model.

squeeforever 04.12.2007 01:34 PM

Yea, I really need a 6S controller...Hell, 8S would be even better. :)

Serum 04.12.2007 01:39 PM

Quote:

IF you really need 6s or more and this will not handle it, we will build one that does. That is why we are here learning.
Perfect attitude.. truly awesome.

captain harlock 04.12.2007 02:57 PM

You ROCK, dude. We need a Hi-Voltage version of the R1MT, even if you could design ones as limited quantities!!!!

coolhandcountry 04.12.2007 03:48 PM

I love 6s controllers. I have a use for even more lipo batteries on a truck as
well. If you could do one with more that would be awesome. You would have
my money for that. I am in the market for a 12s esc now. You can sell them
all day long for 500 a pop to. :D

crazyjr 04.12.2007 06:17 PM

A car based esc with 12s capability, I'd be on that like a 5yr old at a candy clearance

captain harlock 04.13.2007 03:48 AM

We just need a controller over 6s capacity. You think you can do it soon?

gixxer 04.13.2007 08:27 AM

Prez, is the pc interface (hotwire) needed to set the lvc over 3s? Reason I ask is I would like to pick up the r1 pro and try it in a truggy on 5s while I wait for the r1mt to be released. I see the esc listed at some sites as backorder but dont see the hotwire anywhere. Also what is the street price of the hotwire?

thanks

joeling 04.13.2007 12:16 PM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
Yea, I really need a 6S controller...Hell, 8S would be even better. :)

I'll join in the line behind squee for 8S !

Regards,
Joe Ling

jollyjumper 04.13.2007 12:39 PM

you guys really wanna run 8s setup's?
thats plain crazy.
i will be very happy if it does 4~5s and stay nice and cool.
i like the fact that tekin is testing different types of motors.
i think a 2000Kv will be great for me in my truggy.
as long as its around 70~75mm long and 36mm thick.

BrianG 04.13.2007 02:26 PM

The reason why everyone wants 6s+ is because they can run higher wind motors for less current. Less current means less losses and heat. Less current also means that the chosen batteries don't have to have such a high C rating, which then lets you use cheaper cells...

captain harlock 04.13.2007 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG
The reason why everyone wants 6s+ is because they can run higher wind motors for less current. Less current means less losses and heat. Less current also means that the chosen batteries don't have to have such a high C rating, which then lets you use cheaper cells...

Not really!:)

BrianG 04.13.2007 03:41 PM

OK, some people want extreme power. ;)

gixxer 04.13.2007 03:53 PM

Right now I am happy with the performance I get with 5s on a feiago 9xl but would like it to run cooler. So if I could run 6s I would probably go in the 1500kv range.

squeeforever 04.13.2007 04:25 PM

6S and a 10XL should actually run pretty cool. Mine ran ICE cold on 3S. :p Of course it would only go about as fast as a stock E-Maxx.

AAngel 04.13.2007 05:09 PM

gixxer, I'm running an 8XL on 5S right now. I was thinking of going to a 9XL for a bit more torque and gearability to run the 40 series mashers that I got. Are you saying that you are having heat problems with the 9XL too?

gixxer 04.13.2007 08:49 PM

The motor is running around 170 on a 10-15min run. Not out of control but I would prefer to get temps in the 130 range.

squeeforever 04.13.2007 10:41 PM

Sounds like your undergeared...

gixxer 04.14.2007 10:52 AM

I think I might and will order a bigger gear when I make my next order. That wont be until mike finishes up the motor mounts for the 8ight-t. Right now I have it geared 16/46 on 5s.

BlackedOutREVO 04.14.2007 04:34 PM

just to say something here, ppl on rc racing fourms have the 10th scale car version in there cyclones and on the track are INSANE!!!!! and run VERY cool says the dude running it, this monster one could be VERY good!

jollyjumper 04.14.2007 04:42 PM

do they run the redline motor's?

zeropointbug 04.14.2007 04:46 PM

Let's hope, we can use all the options/competition in the brushless controller market, to bring down costs.

BlackedOutREVO 04.14.2007 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyjumper
do they run the redline motor's?


yup! the whole kit! theres only 2 so far i have found. idk if they are beta testers or bought it lol i was just reading up on it!

jnev 04.15.2007 02:48 AM

If it comes out before the MMM, my money will be yours. I will only run 4s at the beginning, but more will be even better, so I can always upgrade to higher voltage batteries in the future.

jollyjumper 04.16.2007 02:12 AM

would a r1pro esc be sufficient for a 1/8th scale truggy?:013:

AAngel 04.16.2007 09:57 AM

I think that the r1pro is only good for 3S, although this may just be because of the bec. I wish that something would come out, either the Tekin or the Castle.

skellyo 04.16.2007 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAngel
I think that the r1pro is only good for 3S, although this may just be because of the bec. I wish that something would come out, either the Tekin or the Castle.

I believe he has said that all the Tekin BL ESC's will do up to 5S, but they only spec 3S because of the internal BEC. They don't want to have to explain that they will run on up to 5S if you disable the BEC and use a UBEC or Rx pack.

Finnster 04.18.2007 11:00 AM

In my business, the rule of thumb is the first product to launch usually takes the market, given they are of similar price, features and quality. I would bet much of the same applies here. If one is months behind the other and doesn't offer signifigantly better features, they will have a difficult time penetrating the market.

It should be an interesting race to see who gets it done first. Like many of you, I will be eagerly waiting for any reasonably priced controller that will be capable of reliably running 5S on a 1/8th scale/ MT setup, and is supported by good CS.

RC-Monster Mike 04.19.2007 09:10 AM

I look forward to these controllers myself. My micro rc18 uses the mini rage system and I wouldn't change it for anything. The R1 and R1 pro should be listed on the site in another week or so(when they get released), and I do have some mini-rage systems as well - just gotta put them on the site.
I am truly looking forward to Tekin's R1MT controller - If it does for monsters what the mini-rage does for micros, it will be a welcome addition to the currently available controllers - especially if it does it better than the rest. :)

gixxer 04.19.2007 09:21 AM

thats good news. I already put a r1 pro on backorder elsewhere, and hope it works a little better then my mamba. if not I will just put it in my mf2 or maybe in a crt.5.

AAngel 04.19.2007 09:58 AM

Can anyone confirm that the R1 pro will do 5S? I'd really like something new to play with, but the current offerings really don't excite me. I'd like to try an R1 pro, but at twice the price of the MM, I don't want to toast it right off.

gixxer 04.19.2007 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamtekin
All of our speedos will actually work on 5slipo. We rated the R1 and R1pro for 3slipo so we do not have to explain that you cannot use the BEC on higher voltage. With the MT version we intend to offer a seperate BEC module. Groups like this will figure it out. The rest of the world is happy with 3slipo since that is plenty for the vehicles these are really designed for.

Tekin Prez

here is the quote from the president of tekin. he says it will do 5s if you disable the bec. that is what i want to try in my 8ight. the mm is doing well but is being pushed past its limits.


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