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maxxdude1234 06.19.2005 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by RC-Monster Mike
I agree, the 9920 is a better controller choice. the xl1200 could be run on 20 cells with the 7018 controller, though, which would be pretty silly in the power department! All The Lehner basic xl motors are capable of the same power output, but the slower turning motors make the power with voltage as opposed to amperage. Personally, I would run the xl2000 motor. It will have excellent runtime, as well as the ability to easily achieve your speed goals and could take some additional voltage if you want to push the envelope. The xl1200 is a great choice for higher voltages (25 volts or so would likely be the sweet spot for the xl1200, while 17 or so volts would be the sweet spot for the xl2000).

I agree with Mike. I'm running a 2000XL/7020 on 18cells. With it geared at 16/72, it is very fast and hideously torquey. Think I need to gear up a bit - gonna try 18/72, or maybe 16/66.:cool:

Nick 06.19.2005 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by maxxdude1234
I agree with Mike. I'm running a 2000XL/7020 on 18cells. With it geared at 16/72, it is very fast and hideously torquey. Think I need to gear up a bit - gonna try 18/72, or maybe 16/66.:cool:
Nice, how long does it take to charge 18 cells? Or is it just the same as charging 14?

maxxdude1234 06.19.2005 06:26 AM

I'm using the ripmax, supernova charger. It can charge upto 25cells at upto 5amps. I charge my 3300 and 3.3A (1C), and it usually takes about 1h10m - the packs take about 3550mah, not 3300mah! Cooling down before running takes about an 1 hour.

Nick 06.19.2005 07:24 AM

I have the Triton, does 24 cells, I can do my 14 cells in 40minutes @ 5A, they also read at 3500mAh.

So I guess it takes longer the more cells you have.

maxxdude1234 06.19.2005 08:02 AM

not necessarily. I charge at only 3.3A, you charge at 5A. Problem with mine is my power supply is only rated for 10A 12V = 140 watts. Charging 21.6v at 5A = 108watts at say 70% efficiency = 154watts. Thats a bit too much for the power supply IMO, so I only charge at 3.3A - and the power supply still gets pretty warm.

Anyway, charging at a higher current means the batteries will get hotter and take longer to cool down. SO the time saved in charging is lost in waiting for the batts to cool...

RC-Monster Mike 06.19.2005 10:21 AM

I run my batteries right off the charger (more punch).

maxxdude1234 06.19.2005 11:14 AM

I always thought you had to let the packs cool down after charging.....ohwell, I'll try that next time I run. Cheers

Batfish 06.19.2005 11:32 AM

The reason batteries are hot after charging is because of the amount of current pushed to them by the charger, especially at higher amps (5-6). The batteries have to dissipate the energy by releasing heat. Once you start using the batteries, the excess energy is immediately released by the discharge of using them.
If you have a charger that discharges/cycles batteries, try charging them, then immediately discharging at about 5-10 amps. You'll see the temps drop almost immediately and they will stay cooler through the entire discharge.
The reason batteries can be hot after running them is the high current we discharge them at. When we discharge batteries at 30, 40, 50+ amps they have to struggle to keep up. If we only ran GP3300 (or any other high-quality battery) at 5-10 amps, they would never heat up. They barely get above ambient temperatures at 20 amps.

This is why you should always let your packs cool after running, but you get the best punch if you run immediately after charging. The heat is there for differing reasons in both cases, so it should be treated differently for both.

I'm sure there are plenty of technical descriptions and graphs, etc.. that can be used to go along with this, but this is a simple enough explanation, I hope :)

maxxdude1234 06.19.2005 11:35 AM

Yeh, I understand now. Thanks for your explanation batfish - it makes sense. Definately gonna try that next time....:)


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