I used my 600L with 36 volts and I overgeared it to do some speed runs and test a ESC. Everything worked fine. It did get hot, but that was expected. When I ran it with normal gearing, it ran nice and warm. I'm having some fun with the 1521, but I might try my 600L again.

I just bought Mailman's 600XL. I'm going to see how well it will push my MGT using 7s2p A123 cells.

Also, does anybody know if the MM can run this motor? I know Mailman smoked his MM with this motor, but I don't know if that was a fluke or the norm. I'm going to try it out first with my Barracuda, which I think shouldn't have a problem running it.

does MM mean mamba max ?? those esc's are 2-3S 6-12cell arent they ?

Yes, MM means mamba max.They're rated at 3s and 12 cells, but lots of people use them on 4s with external bec's. People have used the older ones on 5s and 16 cells. Maxd out (Darren from racing) has been using his maxx on 4s with the MM, since he shorted out his shulze (I don't think I've ever been able to spell that right) the week before the states. When he broke the fan that was on it last time he raced, it started to thermal.

thanks Pat , yes i heard mike has used his MM on 5S in another thread, just depends how the MM likes a 6 pole motor , if MM can run a neu 4 pole then it might be ok with the align.

i would like to see how the align goes on 7S . I might be able to try that soon as i have sourced a 16024 plus i ordered another 16018 from mike.

Not sure if the mm can do 6 poler's, I don't remember seeing anyone using that. Some people get cogging with neu's on the mm, but not because it's 4 pole.
Did you have any cogging with the align esc, before you killed it? I didn't notice any during the few minutes I watched you driving. Are you going to try another one of those esc's? Because it was doing well for a $100 esc, for a while anyway.
You've killed 2 esc's in 1 week running that motor on 6s, and now you what to try 7s :neutral:
Did that 5s setup you tried have decent top end? They seemed to have a lot of torque, but not as much top end as I was expecting, since the kv is the same as my neu.

Are you going to try and get the align esc warrantied? :whistle:

pretty much no cogging at all , infact you would think being a 6 pole motor there should be less cogging and smoother acceleration , because you have less distance between poles.
No warranty for the align esc im afraid , but i will be trying another one but only the 75amp model next , and hopefully i will have a pistix available.
5S with 14t on at ryper track got a fair amount of speed down their long straight.

i have 2x hyper st pro's that nitro one you saw is being electricfyed.
i will have 16018 and 600L or XL in a race truck
and the other can be a test n tune truck with align esc's and test rig the 16024 from time to time.

No idea why the mgm smoked , wasnt the fact i run 6s on it , as nigel ran the same setup for a fair while before dropping a few teeth off the pinion and hitting the race track. And the only reason why the align smoked was cause i was caught up on the back of the berm and had a locked rotor situation .. That would of caused almost any esc to fry!

maybe esc need to come with locked rotor protection of some sort ???

I did try my MM with 3S with my vehicle off the ground and I didn't notice any major cogging. I also know that the 600XL spins easily compared to the 600L. I think 7S A123 (3.6V) is eaqual to a 6S (4.2V) lipo fully charged.

What's the rpm limit of the align's? I haven't seen it anywhere in the specs I've seen.

I took my 600L up to 58000rpm and the motor still works fine.

yes the 600L is dam hard to turn over !
the spec sheet that came with the 600XL motor doesnt say much , mainly says 11.1v-22.2v 1650kv 70/85amp (60secs) 1600/2000W (60secs)

www.align.com.tw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTmuZWbOvUc

More testing and basically we knew we would smoke the esc , so we gave it some runs see how long it lasted .. this setups is 600xl 14t pinion 6S flightpower in my Hyper ST (the esc eater)

note, a few swear words in clip so you have been warned!

But see a glowing red smokey align 75 amp esc

Wow. Your truggy is fast. You guys were having fun tho. How hot was the 600XL?

That sucks!

what happened to that thing? was it the speedo that died?

:slap: If you like playing with fire so much, they make these things called "matches". I've heard they're cheaper than esc's.
And I knew Nigel likes flying helicopters, but I didn't know he wanted to be one. :sarcastic:
Those align esc's burn pretty good. I wonder with they don't thermal first.
3 esc's in 2 weeks ain't bad.

Darren told me you were going to race on Sunday, but do you have anything left to run? When are those MGM's arriving?

nigel knows how to put out fires .. it worked, and we actually smoked two align 75 amp esc's that day .. 1st one didnt catch fire , bit of a fizz and puff of smoke. so thats a total of 1x mgm16018 , 1x align 100amp , 2x align 75amps

we fitted pistix , but the braking is not good. Dont think i will run sunday , no. We go like another 5 align esc's but not worth the hassle.

Serum , yes that was the esc on fire

oh and the motor was not even that hot (well it wasnt glowing red like the esc) , they are made to be run on 6S

Oh, crispy. Interesting method of putting out the fire, but it works rather well!

I found this thread and want ask some questions
Now MM have software update what allow to run outrunners anybody tried this motor with updated MM brains? How does it run?
What you think is it ok to Run this Motor with MM and 4S and gear it to 35-40mph on LSP. What motor temps i can expect in what time?
I trying to find alternative to Feigao, I dont like it at all.

i dont think that 4S will be enough fo 600XL. i tried it with 5S in my maxx and just does not have the right punch I am used to from my Neu. i still need to test it with 6S and i think that will be the right voltage

(i had it geared for just a little lower top speed than with Neu - about 36mph)

motor itself was cool

A buddy of mine has a 600XL lying around, and is gonna be dropping it into his Emaxx with a MM ESC.

Anyone have any thoughts on gearing? It'll likely be running on 4S, so I'm thinking it'll need to be geared fairly high................

Input?

It won't perform real good on 4S. It should be used with 6S.

Ya, I know it'll be slow on 4S, but it should still have enough power to pull some pretty tall gearing, no?

Going above 4S/14 cells isn't really an option at this point, and he's hoping to not have to get a new motor.

Yes, it will have plenty of power.

my friend burned 2x 600xl one 1650kv the other 1700kv on 6S in his muggy. probably overgearing as he used 46/14 which makes almost 50mph

my align on 5S geared for like 37mph does very well