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johnrobholmes 11.19.2007 02:06 PM

How about you change the plugs on your testing equipment? Or make a harness? I would rather get an ESC with no plugs than tamiya plugs.

ClodMaxx 11.19.2007 02:07 PM

+1

if you plan to build and test higher voltage systems (6s+) and still plan to keep the tamiya connectors... and not have them fuse together... well, good luck. :lol:

neweuser 11.19.2007 02:17 PM

I like the harness idea. It only makes more sense. It would satisfy both worlds. I also would like a higher voltage ESC that is more dependable for a heavier vehicle. I think we all have been waiting for it. One reason why I went from an HV to a Sensorless system. That, and even with me, I followed the directions on the HV and still thermalled. I even geared it to the lowest. Other than that, I would love to see Novak come out with something.

Serum 11.19.2007 02:21 PM

Yeah, in my opinion the tamiya plugs are a waste.

I know the hvmaxx key-feature is 'direct drop in' but according to the manual you have users solder on the HVmaxx (to make the battery setup parallel instead of series) but the tamiya plugs are neglected. Not even a hint for the unknown. they are no good for 1/10th onroad cars, so leave alone monstertrucks who are 3 times as heavy.

This is no ranting, just a thing i would like to see changed.

On a stock maxx this is the first item to replace, so on a brushless maxx it should be replaced by standard.

BP-Revo 11.19.2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 130479)
One note about the Tam battery connectors---they are necessary for our own final system testing procedures. We understand that most users replace them immediately with much better, low resistance connectors.

At least you guys still warranty the part after we replace the plugs... unlike Traxxas... :no:

Sower 11.19.2007 04:29 PM

Wow, this is a great thread - nice to see Novak jumping into the fray! What a great time for 1/8 brushless R/C :party:

glassdoctor 11.21.2007 01:23 PM

here's a scan of the "article" in RCCA.... that's all we have right now that I have seen.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t...rsion_0002.jpg

suicideneil 11.21.2007 01:33 PM

Hmm, nothing amazing, but the center slipper is nice, and the battery trays look pretty much perfect for those sized lipos.

Sower 11.21.2007 01:50 PM

This is great news for brushless!! :party:

jnev 11.21.2007 02:08 PM

Looks nice. But I must say that the pinion looks to be a little on the small side.... :lol:

gixxer 11.21.2007 02:33 PM

great to have a big company joining in. I am very interested in that center diff.

RCShocker 11.21.2007 04:48 PM

Yup, I say that in RCCA a few days ago too glassdoctor.

It's definately got me rethinking a BL Revo and directing me more towards a Novak BL Losi Eight. A LST2 even.

I know alot of people knock the Novak brand a little but I have been nothing but pleased with my reliable HV-Maxx 6.5. I'd even consider putting a HV-Maxx in the Eight.

squeeforever 11.21.2007 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 130844)
great to have a big company joining in. I am very interested in that center diff.

Its absolutely nothing to speak of. Its a center slipper and nothing more. The Ofna Dominators had them. That might be what its from, or designed from.

BlackedOutREVO 11.21.2007 06:27 PM

The BL thing is on novaks site now....

Pretty cool there doing BL conversions now

Electric Dave 11.22.2007 01:02 AM

JIC anyone needs it:

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/co...kit/index.html

Click on the photo of the Buggy for a larger photo.

DM

Happywing 11.22.2007 01:39 PM

This is good. More choices is always better. This system will be the choice of the basher/beginner. I just can't see getting 20-30 minute mains out of it without a thermal. I've run the 6.5 in a buggy and it was serviceable. It would be good for indoor racing. All that said, the system will have to be priced right to sell. The pending MMM/Neu system is very reasonably priced (rumor has it) and will be tough to beat for value/performance. I would say that the Novak system has to come in under $250.00 for ESC/motor combo. I doubt it will be cheaper than the present system, but that's what needs to happen or it will fail. Personally, I can't see myself getting one without significant upgrades. I've gotten the Neu bug and have two now. It's just a different world.

joeling 11.24.2007 08:45 AM

Hi,

Looking at the photo from Novak, it looks like the motor is bolted onto a plate that utilises the nitro engine mount holes. This is different from most of the conversions where one of the diff holder plate is extended to become the motor mount.

My worry with this approach is that during the course of running the buggy, the flex in the chassis may eventually cause a clash between the pinion & spur resulting in the front end of the rotor becoming warped. I have done something similar in my first conversion & it lasted about 3 to 4 months of about 1hr sessions per weekend.

I hope I'm wrong of course as it is great to see a big manufacturer joining the push for brushless.

Regards,
Joe Ling

Serum 11.24.2007 08:49 AM

i hear your concern, but it shouldn't be any different that a nitro engine.

cart213 11.24.2007 10:56 AM

But, nitro truggies and buggies usually have more bracing around the center diff to reduce flex. For example, the brake servo mount acts as a brace, but it is removed in most conversions.

riceman 11.24.2007 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cart213 (Post 131272)
But, nitro truggies and buggies usually have more bracing around the center diff to reduce flex. For example, the brake servo mount acts as a brace, but it is removed in most conversions.

That's the first thing I noted on the Novak conversion. I've tried both setups but really favor the mechanical braking - especially in a 1/8 scale buggy.


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