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BP-Revo 01.22.2008 11:53 PM

I have to yet to run one after the firmware update, not that it matters (I have Lehners).

I wonder if they will run these even more smoothly - possibly eliminate the once in a blue moon off the line stutter?

Lonewolf039 01.23.2008 12:08 AM

I updated the MM in my crawler and threw the AXI outrunner back in. I had taken it out and replaced it with a hand wound 55t due to the fact that if I stopped on a hill, and it rolled back, it would not start back up until it came to a stop. Also it would sometimes cog if I punched it from a standstill. After the update, it seems to always start perfect, even when rolling backwards down a hill. I'll leave the outrunner in for a while and see how it goes. I'd forgotten what real power was like:lol: The 55t was very smooth, but pretty weak.

ClodMaxx 01.23.2008 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MetalMan (Post 143252)
If the front axle on my crawler weren't broken, I would comment on how the Mamba 25 runs an outrunner compared to before.

i just updated both MM's on my super (they're attached to outrunners), and i can tell a BIG improvement in smoothness. they didn't cog before and i thought they were smooth prior to the update, but now they're baby's butt smooth!

every noise from the MM does seem louder though. :neutral:

MetalMan 01.23.2008 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ClodMaxx (Post 143330)
every noise from the MM does seem louder though. :neutral:

That's to appeal to the nitro crowd :lol:

ClodMaxx 01.23.2008 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MetalMan (Post 143333)
That's to appeal to the nitro crowd :lol:

how funny would that be... if castle came out with another firmware update where the controllers would make artificial weed wacker noises when the throttle is used... :lol:

lincpimp 01.23.2008 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ClodMaxx (Post 143336)
how funny would that be... if castle came out with another firmware update where the controllers would make artificial weed wacker noises when the throttle is used... :lol:

We could call it a SNN module (simulated nitro noise). They could also develop a pressurized container that automatically sprays the inside of the body and chassis with a sticky substance whenever the body is installed! Or a mercury switch that turns the esc off when you flip the car over. This would be great stuff, and would really help people with the changes from nitro to brushless.

gixxer 01.23.2008 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 143338)
We could call it a SNN module (simulated nitro noise). They could also develop a pressurized container that automatically sprays the inside of the body and chassis with a sticky substance whenever the body is installed! Or a mercury switch that turns the esc off when you flip the car over. This would be great stuff, and would really help people with the changes from nitro to brushless.


:lol: sounds like I will have to download the new updates. not sure if I am brave enough to try a neu with the esc yet though.

ClodMaxx 01.23.2008 01:36 PM

does anyone else notice that their MM makes a beep every few seconds when the truck isn't moving? it never did that before. i didn't reprogram my MM's after the update, so i'll try to see if that fixes it. nothing happens that i need to worry about...it's just a little unnerving! i have 2 MM's on one truck and turn them on at different times, so both beep just out of sequence of each other.

johnrobholmes 01.23.2008 02:12 PM

The beep is to remind you that your ESC is still turned on.

chilledoutuk 01.23.2008 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 143377)
The beep is to remind you that your ESC is still turned on.

I guessed as much.
I think its a good feature it reminds you to turn off the mamba max after a run protecting your battery's etc.

I like the way the new doo doo sound it makes when starting up slowely now it seems that once it gets to a certain rpm it changes to a new mode or at least that's what it sounds like.

HBRC 01.23.2008 03:33 PM

seems a little smoother on startup on my Neu 1.5Y. hard to tell in the basement. I'll have to wait to get to the track for a real test.
It is smoother on my crawler with an outrunner. Still have to test on the rocks as well.

friggin winter. gotta wait for a thaw...

gixxer 01.23.2008 06:49 PM

well I just downloaded it. tried my 8t out in the house with 5s and a 12xl feigao. so far all I notice is the annoying sound at low speed. guess I will have to wait for the woman to get home so I can try it outside (have to watch the little one).

Joe Ford 01.23.2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 143191)
I just fried my MM. This stinks. I downloaded the new firmware and I just tried it again in my TC3. Plugged the 2S lipos and as soon as I turned the MM on, a few sparks came out.

Send it in. Doubtful it was the new software that did it, but who knows...we'll cover you. :) Include in the service request form that after you downloaded the new update the ESC sparked right after plugging in. We'll get you fixed up. Service request form and all pertinent information to send the ESC in are located on the support tab of our website.

lutach 01.23.2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Ford (Post 143436)
Send it in. Doubtful it was the new software that did it, but who knows...we'll cover you. :) Include in the service request form that after you downloaded the new update the ESC sparked right after plugging in. We'll get you fixed up. Service request form and all pertinent information to send the ESC in are located on the support tab of our website.

It was strange, but the sparks happened after I turned the switch to the on position. Thanks for checking in Joe.

JeffEmbracedDC 01.23.2008 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Ford (Post 143436)
Send it in. Doubtful it was the new software that did it, but who knows...we'll cover you. :) Include in the service request form that after you downloaded the new update the ESC sparked right after plugging in. We'll get you fixed up. Service request form and all pertinent information to send the ESC in are located on the support tab of our website.

Joe, I want to thank you for the support you guys have given me on my castle products. You're always really fast with your warranty replacements. I own two MMs which I just updated and they run great, two 5700 motors, and I just ordered a CCBEC, Castle Link and a Sidewinder from the Castle site along with some bullets for my conversion project. I really like your products. Thanks again :)

-Jeff Jassky

pb4ugo 01.23.2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 143417)
well I just downloaded it. tried my 8t out in the house with 5s and a 12xl feigao. so far all I notice is the annoying sound at low speed. guess I will have to wait for the women to get home so I can try it outside (have to watch the little one).

And I have a hard enough time with one!:lol:

lincpimp 01.24.2008 12:11 AM

Ok, just did the downlaod onto the mm in mt ext crt.5. I run a 3s 4200 lipo and a plett maximum. It does start the 4 pole motor better, and the esc seems to run cooler too. I also seem to have better runtime, like 3-5 minutes. Good stuff, can't wait to try thiws update with a aquacraft 6 pole motor in my new emaxx. We will see if it can start that motor, it is impossible to turn by hand! I also have a novak 6.5 that I eill try out in my xxx-cr buggy. Great revision for the best low cost esc around!

chilledoutuk 01.24.2008 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 143470)
Ok, just did the downlaod onto the mm in mt ext crt.5. I run a 3s 4200 lipo and a plett maximum. It does start the 4 pole motor better, and the esc seems to run cooler too. I also seem to have better runtime, like 3-5 minutes. Good stuff, can't wait to try thiws update with a aquacraft 6 pole motor in my new emaxx. We will see if it can start that motor, it is impossible to turn by hand! I also have a novak 6.5 that I eill try out in my xxx-cr buggy. Great revision for the best low cost esc around!

you have a plett max in a crt .5?

lincpimp 01.24.2008 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by chilledoutuk (Post 143504)
you have a plett max in a crt .5?


Yep, makes for a good 3s motor (3100kv) and it never gets much more than slightly warm.

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1803.jpg

DrKnow65 01.24.2008 11:26 AM

Of course it doesn't get warm, there's no pinion gear!!! hahahaha

lincpimp 01.24.2008 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DrKnow65 (Post 143527)
Of course it doesn't get warm, there's no pinion gear!!! hahahaha

Sharp eyes there DrKnow! I run a 13t pinion gear, one off the old emaxx input shaft, that I drilled and tapped for a set screw and hardened for use with the steel spur. It is geared for about 35mph, but is still very fun.

crazyjr 01.24.2008 08:28 PM

I can verify the mamba 25 with update will work with a Neu 1107 and no cogging. This was in a Mini Quake SE with 3s lipo and tall gearing

johnrobholmes 01.24.2008 08:32 PM

Heeeey, I have a few 1110's sitting around here..


How did you get around the 2.5mm mounting screws? Those little buggers are a pain to find.

skellyo 01.24.2008 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 143624)
Heeeey, I have a few 1110's sitting around here..


How did you get around the 2.5mm mounting screws? Those little buggers are a pain to find.

Hmm, you reckon one of those 1110's would fit nicely in a MLST2?

crazyjr 01.25.2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 143624)
Heeeey, I have a few 1110's sitting around here..


How did you get around the 2.5mm mounting screws? Those little buggers are a pain to find.

used the ones that came with it, its seriously powerful in a mini. I think it could run a 1/10 stadium truck with no problem

crazyjr 01.25.2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 143640)
Hmm, you reckon one of those 1110's would fit nicely in a MLST2?

My 1107 will not fit length wise, goes into the battery area too far, the 1110 would be longer

johnrobholmes 01.25.2008 01:29 AM

I always wanted to try the 1110 in a stadium buggy or on road car. That sucker would zip!

lutach 01.25.2008 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 143679)
My 1107 will not fit length wise, goes into the battery area too far, the 1110 would be longer

Do what I did: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...2&postcount=12

If I had that Neu, I think my MLST would be nice and balanced.

ren 01.25.2008 05:17 PM

After all these updates, I have been looking into a motor for a vendetta st on 2s. Do you guys think the neu 1105 1.5Y (6800Kv) geared slower would work with the m25? I have read it pulls a max of 40-60 amps. Maybe I should take a step down and do the 1105 2Y (5200Kv).

big_boss 01.27.2008 05:24 AM

new update is up V 3.04
 
Newer that new LoL.

Dagger Thrasher 01.28.2008 09:19 AM

Well, I just got round to trying out this update in Cold Fusion (brushless Dagger), and it's a huge improvment IMO! I'm only using the standard 5700 motors, but the entire throttle range is much smoother now, as well as startup of course. Braking is also much smoother, and now seems to allow you to just hold light brake for as long as it takes for the vehicle to stop. I don't remember being able to do that with the old software. The whole drive is just seems more relaxed and sedate (almost brushed in feel)...until you open the taps.:diablo:

I know I'm just telling you lot what you already know, but just thought I'd spout my opinion. Good job Castle!:smile:

chilledoutuk 01.28.2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dagger Thrasher (Post 144326)
Well, I just got round to trying out this update in Cold Fusion (brushless Dagger), and it's a huge improvment IMO! I'm only using the standard 5700 motors, but the entire throttle range is much smoother now, as well as startup of course. Braking is also much smoother, and now seems to allow you to just hold light brake for as long as it takes for the vehicle to stop. I don't remember being able to do that with the old software. The whole drive is just seems more relaxed and sedate (almost brushed in feel)...until you open the taps.:diablo:

I know I'm just telling you lot what you already know, but just thought I'd spout my opinion. Good job Castle!:smile:

are you the crazy one that puts two mamba max 5700 in a tamiya?

its good to know anybodies opinion tbh as everybody's setup is different.

I have tested it with my hacker c40 8s and the control does seem improved somewhat but tbh it drove that motor very well anyways so the only thing i really notice in that setup is the change in the smoothness of the throttle control and the brakes.

take off when you goose it seems to be very reliable even with the ss5800 that i tested briefely.

But there is a new characteristic which i don't think is cogging but rather just a stammering of the rotor due to me trying to baby it off the line to see how smooth the motor is.
Its like the motor is not getting magnetised enough to jump to the next pole so it just goes back and forth untill you put enough trottle to power it past that step.

But i think i might be able to set the esc to start at a higher throttle at start using the graph feature making the esc have a higher minimum throttle point that's just enough to start the motor no matter how much you try to baby it.

ill try this out and get back on this:

Dafni 01.28.2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chilledoutuk (Post 144339)
are you the crazy one that puts two mamba max 5700 in a tamiya?

Let me guess, you never beheld his truck, right?
Cold Fusion is not exactly just a Tamiya anymore! :yes:

Dagger Thrasher 01.28.2008 11:56 AM

Lol, yep that's me. They're in this thing:
Cold Fusion thread

Only difference is now that the chassis is carbon fibre and a few other minor tweaks that are shown later on in that thread. But yes, the MMs now run even better and smoother than before. Really pleased with the update.

Quote:

But there is a new characteristic which i don't think is cogging but rather just a stammering of the rotor due to me trying to baby it off the line to see how smooth the motor is.
Its like the motor is not getting magnetised enough to jump to the next pole so it just goes back and forth untill you put enough trottle to power it past that step.
It does that to a very, very minor extent in CF too...but it's barely noticeable. I have the start power on Medium though, so perhaps shoving the start power up to High (if you haven't already done it) would help.


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