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gone 03.17.2008 12:58 PM

The chassis isn't finished yet, it will be made in 6061 aluminum, it's only a prototype. The aluminum with plastic between the two plates is called "alucobon" and it comes from here
http://www.timcomposites.fr/produits-alucobond.asp
I don't know if you can find it in the United states
Thanks for your comments a++

gone 03.17.2008 01:18 PM

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9...800x600vf5.jpg
An other pics a++

aqwut 03.17.2008 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone (Post 155780)
The chassis isn't finished yet, it will be made in 6061 aluminum, it's only a prototype. The aluminum with plastic between the two plates is called "alucobon" and it comes from here
http://www.timcomposites.fr/produits-alucobond.asp
I don't know if you can find it in the United states
Thanks for your comments a++

Thanks dude.... ... Can't wait to see a video..

gone 04.10.2008 02:36 PM

http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/4...800x600ky2.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/871...800x600fk3.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4...600x800hu4.jpg
The finished chassis :yipi::party:
thanks you a++

Hardstyle 04.10.2008 02:43 PM

OMGOMGOMG, Thats sick! Is that motor mount a little bit twisted or is it just a camera angle?
Make sure you do a video about this beast!

gone 04.10.2008 02:49 PM

It must be a camera angle, because the motor mount is very strong and large
Like on this pics http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9...800x600qt6.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5...800x600ok7.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9...800x600vv6.jpg

suicideneil 04.10.2008 03:07 PM

Yeah, just looks like a bit of 'fish-eye' type distortion from the camera lens.

Awesome build Gone, should be a serious bit of truck when its completed.

Hardstyle 04.10.2008 03:25 PM

Yeah, I thought that too.. Gone have you calculated the speeds on that setup http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/?

gone 04.11.2008 11:41 AM

The top Speed will be about 50 mph (80 km/h) on 1st gear and about on 2nd gear 62 mph (99 km/h)

1st gear

Differential Ratio: 26/9
Transmission Ratio: 0.25
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 43
Pinion Tooth Count: 17
Total Voltage: 22.2
Motor KV: 2300
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.8
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0
Motor Current Draw: 150
Motor coil Ω: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.53 : 1
Total Ratio: 16.44118 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 18.22 inches (462.82 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 51060 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 53.59 mph (86.08 km/h)
Effective Speed Rate: 2.41 mph/V (3.88 kmh/V)
Estimated Adjusted Speed: 50 mph (80 km/h) - 7% loss
Effective KV Value: 2300
Motor Torque: 0.46 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 7.55 ft-lbs
Final Power: 3330 watts (4.5 HP)

2nd gear

Differential Ratio: 26/9
Transmission Ratio: 0.25
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 39
Pinion Tooth Count: 21
Total Voltage: 22.2
Motor KV: 2300
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.8
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0
Motor Current Draw: 150
Motor coil Ω: 0.01
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 1.86 : 1
Total Ratio: 12.07143 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 18.22 inches (462.82 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 47610 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 68.05 mph (109.32 km/h)
Effective Speed Rate: 3.07 mph/V (4.92 kmh/V)
Estimated Adjusted Speed: 62 mph (99 km/h) - 9% loss
Effective KV Value: 2144.59
Motor Torque: 0.46 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 5.54 ft-lbs
Final Power: 3330 watts (4.5 HP)

:diablo::na:

BL_RV0 04.11.2008 07:37 PM

Wow! I'd expect about 55 max because of the massive amount of drag that truck will have.

aqwut 04.11.2008 11:30 PM

I'm sure that thing will go faster than 60MPH... 3330 watts is a lot of power...

jzemaxx 04.12.2008 12:24 AM

Yeah, my XTM is longer and maybe a little heavier and it has no problems breaking 70mph, except for keeping it on the ground.

jnev 04.12.2008 01:21 AM

This is such an awesome project. Great job on the truck gone!! Looking forward to the video(s) and the finished product. :yes:

gone 04.12.2008 06:41 AM

thanks you :oops:. Now, I need to a new charger, I would like charge my both lipo 6S 4900mah 25c at the same time, I think to a Hyperion EOS0610i DUO or a power peak infinity 3, but what is the best ?

http://www.impaktrc.com/images/HP-EOS0610iDUO.jpg

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...60SRLCB12S.jpg

aqwut 04.12.2008 10:13 AM

I would get the hyperion, only $60 more, built in balancer, and 360 Watts.. double the charge output..... I love mine... all of them.. :)

suicideneil 04.12.2008 10:22 AM

I would say the Hyperion too, though both look rather awesome.

lutach 04.12.2008 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzemaxx (Post 162671)
Yeah, my XTM is longer and maybe a little heavier and it has no problems breaking 70mph, except for keeping it on the ground.

One guy gave me a little secrete that is working great. What I did is the following: I disassembled my front shocks and added a piece of silicone tube to the shaft and put it back in and that actually stopped my truck from lifting the front end. I also added silicone tubing to the rear shocks (Doesn't need to be disassembled) shaft to stop it from squatting. Now you will have to decide how much up travel you want in the front and make sure all the tubing is the same length. I chose silicone tubing, because it offers some damping, but you can use any other kind of tube you want. I tought it would work, but it does. My truck doesn't lift it's front anymore.

jzemaxx 04.12.2008 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 162746)
One guy gave me a little secrete that is working great. What I did is the following: I disassembled my front shocks and added a piece of silicone tube to the shaft and put it back in and that actually stopped my truck from lifting the front end. I also added silicone tubing to the rear shocks (Doesn't need to be disassembled) shaft to stop it from squatting. Now you will have to decide how much up travel you want in the front and make sure all the tubing is the same length. I chose silicone tubing, because it offers some damping, but you can use any other kind of tube you want. I tought it would work, but it does. My truck doesn't lift it's front anymore.

I have silicone tubing on all 4 shocks already and also a custom wheelie bar. The wind is what is taking the truck....its all of a sudden to. Also its not consistent. Usually around 65-70mph range the truck begins to sway the rear end side to side as lift is created on the rear of the body, then past that it will sometimes just take off....like an airplane with wings. I'm working on reducing frontal area as much as possible and lift. Also I am working on making some bolt on difusers for the rear of the chassis. The MMT is the perfect chassis for high speed runs since its a flat panel. All the other big trucks have an open chassis underneath which creates alot of lift. Also the longer the wheelbase the better I have been with holding the truck down.

lutach 04.12.2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzemaxx (Post 162839)
I have silicone tubing on all 4 shocks already and also a custom wheelie bar. The wind is what is taking the truck....its all of a sudden to. Also its not consistent. Usually around 65-70mph range the truck begins to sway the rear end side to side as lift is created on the rear of the body, then past that it will sometimes just take off....like an airplane with wings. I'm working on reducing frontal area as much as possible and lift. Also I am working on making some bolt on difusers for the rear of the chassis. The MMT is the perfect chassis for high speed runs since its a flat panel. All the other big trucks have an open chassis underneath which creates alot of lift. Also the longer the wheelbase the better I have been with holding the truck down.

Do you have tubing inside the front shocks under the piston? I will start doing speed runs again soon and I have my truck sitting a bit lower on the front and I know it will create much more down force, but I know it will stay on the ground. I also have a wheelie bar, but I think it won't be needed. I sure hope Mike can do my chassis soon. With the design I have done, I can use 44.4v and 74v with those long packs from Kong Power, Flight Power and Thunder Power.

jzemaxx 04.12.2008 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 162849)
Do you have tubing inside the front shocks under the piston? I will start doing speed runs again soon and I have my truck sitting a bit lower on the front and I know it will create much more down force, but I know it will stay on the ground. I also have a wheelie bar, but I think it won't be needed. I sure hope Mike can do my chassis soon. With the design I have done, I can use 44.4v and 74v with those long packs from Kong Power, Flight Power and Thunder Power.


Yes I have the tubing on all of the pistons. Works good. I have also found the other trick is to strap the front suspension with zip ties to not allow the front suspension to unload, essentially making the front end dead weight.

lutach 04.12.2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzemaxx (Post 162855)
Yes I have the tubing on all of the pistons. Works good. I have also found the other trick is to strap the front suspension with zip ties to not allow the front suspension to unload, essentially making the front end dead weight.

In the rear just add tubing to stop the truck from squating. That way the truck will have a hot rod stance.

jzemaxx 04.12.2008 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 162859)
In the rear just add tubing to stop the truck from squating. That way the truck will have a hot rod stance.

I run trinity XX heavy lowering springs in the front now, and the standard length XX heavy trinity's in the back. I have the truck now pretty dialed in. The body is the real problem. I need to find out how to minimize drag from the truck body.

lutach 04.12.2008 11:21 PM

I'll try to make my own body out of fiberglass or I might buy one of those oval truck bodies and modify it to work with my truck.

aqwut 04.14.2008 03:05 PM

you could use the firehammer 1/5th scale shocks.. they're about the same size, but the firehammer shocks are very stiff.... and you'll only need 4 instead of 8...

Gone, how far is your GST done?... I can't wait to see it..

gone 04.23.2008 12:45 PM

Hello, I must make a choice, I keep my esc mgm 224-18 or I sell it for the MMM, the mgm has problems according some users :na::bad::bad::bad:, so what have I to do ?:neutral:

aqwut 04.23.2008 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone (Post 165610)
Hello, I must make a choice, I keep my esc mgm 224-18 or I sell it for the MMM, the mgm has problems according some users :na::bad::bad::bad:, so what have I to do ?:neutral:

Well, you're current ESC can take more load that the MMM.....

gone 04.23.2008 01:06 PM

Okay, the motor is a neu 1527 on 6S :oops::whip:, so I should keep my mgm
Thanks you a++

aqwut 04.23.2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone (Post 165616)
Okay, the motor is a neu 1527 on 6S :oops::whip:, so I should keep my mgm
Thanks you a++

My Neu will be running 8-12S.. LOL same motor.. just lower KV...

jzemaxx 04.23.2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqwut (Post 165626)
My Neu will be running 8-12S.. LOL same motor.. just lower KV...


Which KV was yours aqwut?? 825 right?

aqwut 04.23.2008 06:27 PM

Jze, 925KV...

Gone, any progress with the GST?...

jzemaxx 04.23.2008 09:17 PM

Cool deal.


The 1527 1D is an amp hog....whichever controller you get it better have at least a 200 amp rating.

aqwut 04.24.2008 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jzemaxx (Post 165748)
Cool deal.


The 1527 1D is an amp hog....whichever controller you get it better have at least a 200 amp rating.

Steve Neu said that it's good for 170 Amp continuous.... so I'm not too worried about it... oh forgot to ask you.... the Neu 1521 ran smoot with the Turnigy ESC?.. Any cogging at low RPMs?

gone 04.24.2008 12:41 PM

My nemesis isn't finished yet, I need some parts...in may

gone 05.26.2008 02:29 PM

Hello, I have some good news, my nemesis is finished :party:

my charger, hyperion

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2...3631td0.th.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/8...3630eh1.th.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3...3634wx5.th.jpg

My cut off lipo

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6...3632gj5.th.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/3...3640jt5.th.jpg

My micro 6V bec

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1...3633qe8.th.jpg

gone 05.26.2008 02:29 PM

And the parts

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3...3639yi4.th.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7...3638sb4.th.jpg
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/3...3644yk2.th.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/5...3636nk6.th.jpg
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1...3643li4.th.jpg
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/1...3648yx3.th.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6...3647jv8.th.jpg
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8...3649ll0.th.jpg
http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4...3650az7.th.jpg

I haven't run yet, but may be this week a video :diablo:
Thanks a++

BL_RV0 05.26.2008 03:06 PM

Very nice rig! IMO, you should get some bigger wheels and tires, and maybe a new body. Overall though verrrrry nice truck!

gone 05.26.2008 03:08 PM

Yes, I will change my body, but I will keep my wheels and tires
Thanks

BL_RV0 05.26.2008 03:10 PM

Good. What body are you planning?

gone 05.26.2008 03:14 PM

A proline crowd pleazer :lol:, I bought revolution ceramic bearing from avidrc too, but I haven't got pictures :whistle:
Thanks you

BL_RV0 05.26.2008 03:20 PM

Eh.... I'm not a fan of the "truggy body on tvp style chassis monster trucks" because it shows the guts of the trucks, and for something so expensive (to me) it just doesn't look right. :neutral:


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