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Dagger Thrasher 07.03.2008 07:35 PM

AFAIK, Patrick did list the downgrades in the Castle Neu compared to a genuine Neu...and I don't think he mentioned anything about the rotor not being segmented. The motors will obviously be machine wound, and he also said that the rotor won't be carbon-wrapped (it was going to be, but apparently carbon fibre right now is expensive), though that won't really affect much. There might have been one or two other changes too, but I can't remember exactly.
The upgrades will be nice though, as F7Rider said. Larger bearings, sealed endbellsand a tougher can with a screw-together design. Should be sweet!

The proof is in the pudding though, so there's no way of knowing how good this lump will be until we test it! I get the feeling that Castle are really going to pull the rabbit out of the hat this time, though.

captain harlock 07.03.2008 07:36 PM

I said " I do not think.." so yes, I might be wrong, too. However, the possibility is still big that we wont see a segmented rotor in a CC Neu motor.

Dagger Thrasher 07.03.2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

I said " I do not think.."
That's cool, sorry if I came over like I was saying you're definitely wrong. I might be wrong! :smile:

MTBikerTim 07.03.2008 07:50 PM

The CC ad says it will have a sintered neo magnet. If that doesn't mean it's segmented then I doubt it will be segmented or it would say so on the ad.

DRIFT_BUGGY 07.03.2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock (Post 187968)
For your information, everyone, the CC Neu motors are being manufactured in chaina. I do not think they are hand built, and I also do not think they incorporate segmented magnets like the ones available directly from Neu itself. All of these things were done to take down the prices of these motors by leaps and pounds.

The " Real" Neus are way better and more expensive than the CC ones. The CC ones are meant for the general public and those who aren't willing to get the original under license from Neu.

Wheres Chaina?

The "Castle Neu" motors will be build in Castle's Chinese facility, under license from Steve Neu, and we are currently waiting on magnets to arrive from our magnet supplier in China to build the final prototypes and get the production line started. The "Authentic Neu" motors are built in Steve Neu's facility in San Diego. The differences between the motors were mostly to make the CC motor better suited for RC car use -- the "Authentic" Neu motors were designed for airplane and heli use originally, which calls for lightest possible weight.

#1: Authentic Neu motors have carbon fiber wound rotors, the Castle Neu motors will not have a carbon wound rotor. (We tried, but Carbon Fiber is so rare right now we just couldn't procure enough carbon for production... but we have found in testing that the carbon wound rotors aren't significantly stronger, they just protect the stator better when the rotor fails, so we decided to move forward without a carbon wound rotor.)
#2: Castle Neu motors have a completely different case, which is better suited to RC car use (better seals on front and rear bearings, more heat sink area, heavier and stiffer construction.)
#3: Castle Neu motors have larger front bearings to handle RC car loads better than the Neu motors
#4: Castle Neu motors have high flex 10ga silicone wires exiting the case, instead of winding wires (better suited to very high vibration environments.)

Thanx!

Patrick

TruckBasher 07.03.2008 08:33 PM

I hope CC would lend some of the guys here at RCM some prototype for testing to avoid having to go over the dilemma of MMM. Most of the heavy basher/extreme racers can be found here :tongue:

ncnguyen123 07.03.2008 09:04 PM

what the heck! did tower just raise the price of the combo now to $349. Wasn't it less last week?

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVHA5&P=7

MTBikerTim 07.03.2008 09:06 PM

sick of everyone hitting them with $60 vouchers probably.

TexasSP 07.03.2008 09:23 PM

That is just another reason to buy from mike instead.

DRIFT_BUGGY 07.04.2008 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ncnguyen123 (Post 188031)
what the heck! did tower just raise the price of the combo now to $349. Wasn't it less last week?

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVHA5&P=7

Yep, that sounds like Tower. After everything that happened with the MMM, Mike came out with the best deal and left it till last :party:

DRIFT_BUGGY 07.04.2008 02:52 AM

Tower also put the price up on the Sidewinder kits. Tower use to only sell them at $132.99 and now have them listed at $144.99
Tower also has the Conversion Kits listed on their site to http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13293

captain harlock 07.04.2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 188009)
Wheres Chaina?

The "Castle Neu" motors will be build in Castle's Chinese facility, under license from Steve Neu, and we are currently waiting on magnets to arrive from our magnet supplier in China to build the final prototypes and get the production line started. The "Authentic Neu" motors are built in Steve Neu's facility in San Diego. The differences between the motors were mostly to make the CC motor better suited for RC car use -- the "Authentic" Neu motors were designed for airplane and heli use originally, which calls for lightest possible weight.

#1: Authentic Neu motors have carbon fiber wound rotors, the Castle Neu motors will not have a carbon wound rotor. (We tried, but Carbon Fiber is so rare right now we just couldn't procure enough carbon for production... but we have found in testing that the carbon wound rotors aren't significantly stronger, they just protect the stator better when the rotor fails, so we decided to move forward without a carbon wound rotor.)
#2: Castle Neu motors have a completely different case, which is better suited to RC car use (better seals on front and rear bearings, more heat sink area, heavier and stiffer construction.)
#3: Castle Neu motors have larger front bearings to handle RC car loads better than the Neu motors
#4: Castle Neu motors have high flex 10ga silicone wires exiting the case, instead of winding wires (better suited to very high vibration environments.)

Thanx!

Patrick

It's the one without the extra "a" I've added. Hehe! ;P

captain harlock 07.04.2008 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagger Thrasher (Post 188000)
That's cool, sorry if I came over like I was saying you're definitely wrong. I might be wrong! :smile:

No hard feelings, my friend. Just making myself clear. :whistle:

petewalford17 07.04.2008 04:36 PM

look at this



https://www.tanicpacks.com/images//6...123-in-car.gif:gasp:

big greg 07.04.2008 04:48 PM

ooo i want one! that motor looks cool in the green color


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