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captain harlock 09.04.2008 08:35 PM

How did you find the braking? Does it fade?

What about acceleration? Is it smooth enough to compare it with MMM?

The new specs seem very tempting, and I need an effecient HV esc.

I only want to run 8s with my 1950/10 in the MBX5T. That would be totally cool...

bdebde 09.04.2008 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRUGGYMAN (Post 209008)
I just received a MGM type E 28025 with 2fans, hydro version & switch.
Why did i choose MGM ?
The 1st MGM i bought in January had a software mistake in voltage
cutoff. They took it back and update it with new software + possibility
to personnaly update it at home, with nice compensations !!
Since march, the N°1 runs ideal: temp maximum 45°c !!!
Never had a broken fan after 42 packs ( 10 to 15 min ). I bought a 2nd one and they both go PERFECT.
A friend bought a MMM, already broken fan, software problems, weldings going bad and now no more life even with smaller motor in a buggy.
I prefer to go away from defaults.
I like the features of the new MGM version and i own a LOSI 8T that has just been converted for neutron :oops:
I made a mistake in the basic programming. Send a mail to MGM and
4 hours later, the answer was there: job done.
Tomorrow, i'll test it HARD:tongue:

Can't wait to hear how it runs! I always recieve very prompt emails from MGM too. I had emailed back and forth about three times in less than 2 hours one time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock (Post 209064)
How did you find the braking? Does it fade?

What about acceleration? Is it smooth enough to compare it with MMM?

The new specs seem very tempting, and I need an effecient HV esc.

I only want to run 8s with my 1950/10 in the MBX5T. That would be totally cool...


On my 16024 with the old software, the braking seemed inconsistent and reverse was unusable. It also started out with a launch, no slow starting. After the software update, the brakes were very consistent, not quite as strong as MMM, but that can be turned up. Reverse works perfect, in fact better for bashing than the MMM, you can actually brake in reverse without launching forward. The start up works as good as the MMM (maybe better), and it is nearly as smooth. I won't hesitate to get another MGM if my MMM does not hold up. In fact I may get a new one just for some of the new features. Get one, you won't be sorry!:yes:

Kajman 09.05.2008 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRUGGYMAN (Post 209008)
I just received a MGM type E 28025 with 2fans, hydro version & switch.
Why did i choose MGM ?
The 1st MGM i bought in January had a software mistake in voltage
cutoff. They took it back and update it with new software + possibility
to personnaly update it at home, with nice compensations !!
Since march, the N°1 runs ideal: temp maximum 45°c !!!
Never had a broken fan after 42 packs ( 10 to 15 min ). I bought a 2nd one and they both go PERFECT.
A friend bought a MMM, already broken fan, software problems, weldings going bad and now no more life even with smaller motor in a buggy.
I prefer to go away from defaults.
I like the features of the new MGM version and i own a LOSI 8T that has just been converted for neutron :oops:
I made a mistake in the basic programming. Send a mail to MGM and
4 hours later, the answer was there: job done.
Tomorrow, i'll test it HARD:tongue:

This is version I think of, not sure if 280 or 160 should buy, waiting for quotation from local dealer to have warranty, please make some movie or at least write how it works on what setup! How much did it cost you? I've just read manual and I AM SO DISSAPOINTED! No current limiter available! That's shame...

coolrunnings 09.05.2008 04:44 AM

Hey mike you already know I'm down! The 100.63 looks to be my baja control what do you think? Just tell me what to order mike and I'll get the payment sent.

TRUGGYMAN 09.05.2008 11:12 AM

Experience
 
Regarding the MGM, first of all, i NEVER got cogging. I even do not know
what it is.:yes:
The way you want the start is according to your fingers.
If it's smooth, then you will complain the low power.
If it's too hard, complain again on grip and car control.
My choice is a setup of the MGM esc with the start as hard as possible.
MGM talk of seconds and i use the lowest. On the other way, i use exponential on my transmitter.
By doing so, if soft start is needed, just use 1/3rd of the throttle.
If a heavy jump comes when being stop, pull the throttle to max
and it will fly ( It's the real way it goes ).
Driving only truggies, i need HARD breaking due to weight & inertia.
MGM is perfect and i'm nearly digging in the soil on hard braking position.:gasp:
I use the brake position 6. Still 3 more steps available !!!!
I never use reverse for competition, but i once tried it and it was OK.

Now, i'm waiting the good weather to test the new version. :diablo:

Kajman 09.05.2008 11:20 AM

Tell me, since there is no current limiter, can you handle extra unneeded torque? Just less throttle helps or any other ideas?

VintageMA 09.05.2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolrunnings (Post 209245)
Hey mike you already know I'm down! The 100.63 looks to be my baja control what do you think? Just tell me what to order mike and I'll get the payment sent.

Yes - that looks to be what the controller of choice will end up being for a 1/5 model. Although the HV-110 is still pretty cheap at almost 1/2 the cost but I don't know if it will handle 12S (50.4v on a full charge and esc rated for 50v).

I actually can't really see doing 14S as most pack configurations come up to 6S and then jump to 10S and I don't want to have to hook up more than 2 packs in series because charging/balancing them becomes a real time consuming hassle.

coolrunnings 09.05.2008 09:32 PM

I'm gonna call mike monday and talk with him about this new control, I almost grabbed the 120.32 off the site the other day and I'm glad a waited cause this big mgm 100.63 looks perfect for my 15 pound baja on 9s. I did have a long talk with mike just a few days ago regarding the quality of the mgm controls and he told me quality wise they are the best...they may not be the cheapest or have the most options but they are hands down the best most reliable esc right now period. They are exactly what he runs. I really wish they were cheaper so more people could enjoy them cause I think alot of negetive feelings about them stem from the fact that they are to expensive for 95% of us.

Kajman 09.06.2008 04:10 AM

What are their best rivals in your opinion? I've had Quark SSB Mk03, maany options, a lot of power, but.... smoked after one ride :( If not MGM, then what?

coolrunnings 09.06.2008 04:34 AM

Bro, I'm not really sure...I go with the best and don't look back. I had 2 bk 9920's that never worked right...my novaks thermaled every time I turned around...the mmm is well like pulling the pin an a hand grenade and hoping it wont go off. I just don't know! Mike cronin is the smartest guy's I know and I've spent hours with him on the phone quizing him about all the controls out there and it always comes back to mgm for high power handling and ultimate reliability...not many people have em cause they are twice the price. If I were you I would pony up the 350.00 and get the 160.24 or wait till next summer on the mmmv3 or v4 or whatever.

Mister-T 09.06.2008 05:02 AM

Customised R1pro maybe ?

or the good old custom Mamba Max + BEC

captain harlock 09.06.2008 09:56 AM

Yeah, a R1Pro with two 35v, 1200uf caps in parallel and a decent external bec will make a very good 2-6s controller.

Tekin seems like the best contender. I think the newer MGM escs might be a good choice, too.

david lamontagn 09.06.2008 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock (Post 209774)
Yeah, a R1Pro with two 35v, 1200uf caps in parallel and a decent external bec will make a very good 2-6s controller.

Tekin seems like the best contender. I think the newer MGM escs might be a good choice, too.


This 35v caps in parallel, yo have to put it in the input batterie lead, right??
And how is the current rating of this R1pro??

Maybe this think could be better than my MMM on my e-revo on 6s, hat do you think guys???

captain harlock 09.06.2008 05:34 PM

100 amps continuous, 200 amps surge.

I'm not very sure of the 6s handling. The whole case is plastic and only the solder posts work as a heat sink. Many people here have reported very positive comments on the esc's performance at 18v( 5s), but not 6s.

I still think it's a robust thingy. Maybe a cooling fan will solve the problem at 22.2v.

coolrunnings 09.06.2008 05:56 PM

Mike was working on an aluminum case for the r1 pro, but I forgot what he said about...mike if your reading this give us your thoughts on the r1 pro bro!


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