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tc3_racer_001 10.29.2008 04:15 AM

imo in regular setups, gears = something more to break lol. kiss :)

rhylsadar 10.29.2008 05:26 AM

hi

i would also target around 25'000 rpm. a good tuned zenoah does bout that.
those cars are geared very high so you need a high torque motor. the 30er lehners seem to be about right or the plettenberg bolido. there also the pinions fit directly on the 10mm shaft.
a schulze 40.160 should do the job. if the promised XXL schulze 40.300 come out soon (?) those would be even nicer. i havn't converted one of my FGs yet but personally i would also do some kind of small watercooling circuit as there is some much room in those cars.


bye
rhylsadar

http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.d...fut-xxl-3i.jpg

Ryu James 10.30.2008 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhylsadar (Post 227173)
hi

i would also target around 25'000 rpm. a good tuned zenoah does bout that.
those cars are geared very high so you need a high torque motor. the 30er lehners seem to be about right or the plettenberg bolido. there also the pinions fit directly on the 10mm shaft.
a schulze 40.160 should do the job. if the promised XXL schulze 40.300 come out soon (?) those would be even nicer. i havn't converted one of my FGs yet but personally i would also do some kind of small watercooling circuit as there is some much room in those cars.


bye
rhylsadar

http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.d...fut-xxl-3i.jpg


hey rhylsadar,
where do you get parts and stuff for your 1/5 FGs? i havent been able to find any good site for 1/5 scale hop up parts.

Ryu James 11.02.2008 07:15 AM

just an update. i am waiting on carbon fiber sheets from dagraphite.com before fabrication begins. also, i am awaiting my ESC.

mohanjude 11.05.2008 05:10 AM

Here are some pictures of my conversion
 
I decided to install the Plettenberg Bolido in my FG touring car and build a car for speed. Alas it was quick but too quick. It kept wheel spinning even with the most gentle throttle curve. To keep the mechanical brakes I decided to use a converted Futaba 9CS transmitter with the gimbals that centred on the spring on the throttle side. I then used a mix to apply brakes when the throttle was 1/3rd in reverse position and let the brakes off at 1/2 stick reverse position. The schulze controller only applies when the stick is in reverse in 1/2 position and after a delay of about 1 second. SO basically I have Mechanical hydraulic brakes and elektromotor brakes which can be weakened by using a the boat setting on the schulze.

The lipos are Thunderpower extreme V2 - 5000MA and running 2 sets to have a combined voltage of 44.4v. The total rpm should be over 35000 rpm on the bolido but I have restricted it on the throttle curve to stop the destruction of the motor.

The motor mount is a custom job and took less than 2 hours to mount onto the vehicle. I did not make the mount but have now sourced a chap in germany who can make them.

[IMG]http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/IMG_0197.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/IMG_0198.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/IMG_0199.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/IMG_0200.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/IMG_0201.jpg[/IMG]


I had to change the wheels to stadium wheels as I kept burning the road wheels - I burnt a set within 1 hour. The stadium wheels looks a bit silly but I need to think of an innovative way of mounting a shell - perhaps a MT shell?

I am now waiting for the next conversion which is to mount a Lehner 3080 Monster motor onto a MCD 4 WD truck and power it on 18S.


Mohan

Countryhick 11.05.2008 05:40 AM

That build is huge! :great::great::great:

Well done.

Have you got any video yet??????

rhylsadar 11.05.2008 06:10 AM

hi

@mohanjude
nice ride! now add a little watercooling circuit with a radiator and pump in there! :intello:
18s in a MCD sounds good.

@ryu james
i usually buy my FG stuff directly here in switzerland. in germany there is a big shop that also sells internationally. rc-car-online.de
the electric motormount for the FG can be bought here http://www.onefive.de/e-power/epower_fg_umbau_I.htm

bye
rhylsadar

mohanjude 11.05.2008 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Countryhick (Post 229386)
That build is huge! :great::great::great:

Well done.

Have you got any video yet??????

I have not had a chance to do the video yet - I was trying to struggle with burning tyres. Once the weather improves and it is a bit brighter and drier I will take video of a good run with some spped meassurements using the eagle tree GPS or the speed gun

Mohan

lutach 11.05.2008 08:38 AM

Very nice Mohan.

BL_RV0 11.05.2008 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 229405)
Very nice Mohan.

Second that.

JThiessen 11.05.2008 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryu James (Post 226657)
my local hobby store has the new HPI Baja 5T and i am thinking about converting it. the chassis is perfect for holding two batteries on each side like the new ERevo. i think it would be awesome. plus the Baja 5 has tons of upgrade parts avail on the market. it could be a real sweet setup. how does the converted Baja 5B do? have you seen it run? any pics?

I thought the same thing when I was looking at it today. But those side trays are removable, and kinda flimsy. That area is going to take some beefing up.
Its one heavy monster....

crazyjr 11.06.2008 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by othello (Post 226882)
There are already a few 1:5 onroad car conversions in Germany. Like for example this one here: Evo 04. This one uses a 3040/12 (875kv) motor paired with a 32.170 Schulze on 8s2p Lipo (12000mAh) -> around 26000rpm. You can find a few videos on youtube and myvideo. I also saw a few conversions with Lehner 2250 or 2280 motors. If you compare those motors wheightwise with Neu Motors you should have a good match for your car. An MGM 12545-3 ESC should also do the trick. Good luck with your project.

Did anyone watch the 1/5 MT vids from him? Impressive, I'd like to see the eagletree graphs off that. Here is his vid list, part 6 of the MT buildup really shows what brushless is really about. Hard to believe that truck is 20+ pounds
http://www.youtube.com/user/Netzfalke

lutach 11.06.2008 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 229776)
Did anyone watch the 1/5 MT vids from him? Impressive, I'd like to see the eagletree graphs off that. Here is his vid list, part 6 of the MT buildup really shows what brushless is really about. Hard to believe that truck is 20+ pounds
http://www.youtube.com/user/Netzfalke

I've been enjoying those videos. I have never seen the gas version that fast and I never seen the gas version do wheelies like his does.

BL_RV0 11.06.2008 10:38 AM

Yeah, that Bolido throws it around like... like a.... well.... something smaller. :lol:

Takedown 11.06.2008 10:28 PM

By the looks of it its not an FG at all. They have many copies of the original base models of FG like their MT's and onroads from the original batch that smartech now still produces. Its exactly the same as your model.

http://www.oversizerc.com/p/563138/s...orad-car-.html


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