Lol...:lol: Use lightweight t6-t7 aluminum, carbon fiber, fiberglass aka "the works".

Or just drive it on the moon...

But its not. Thats like saying hackers are just as nice as lehners. "which they are" which would mean I have a say in this aswell. But their not comparable because their made by different companies...

The term comparable usually refers to items that are not identical...

Cause if they are identical they are not comparable, thay are identical.

So two items made by two seperate companies that are similar can be compared, so they are comparable.

So hacker c50 motors and lehners have comparable performance, but the c50 is larger and heavier due to can design. Their internal design is similar and I am sure the material usage is similar too.

If you must have a Lehner I found one here. Personally I'd rather have a Neu or MedUsa. You get more poles and a slotted stator, meaning a lot more torque.

If you do go for the Lehner, make sure to get a RC-M Bore Reducer, they use a 4mm shaft on that motor rather than the 5mm shaft you get on a MedUsa or a Neu.

For 240 I would buy 2 medusa 60mm motors... Or a medusa 70mm and a MMM. Nothing against lehner, they were the hot setup when they were available in the US. But times change, Neu and medusa seem to be the best bet for sales and service now. Plus you can get them from Mike!

Seems like it has good enough torque to me- http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...rs12-18-06.flv

yeah, the LMTs seem to be at the bottom end of the bang for the buck. For the dollar, Medusas can't be beat. Neus aren't too bad either if you compare the price to LMTs, and the performance difference is minimal if anything.

CC Patrick gave a little rundown of the differences between slotted and slotless: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...01&postcount=2

BTW: Medusas and Neus are both 4 pole slotted motors. Feigaos and LMTs are 2 pole slotless motors. I think Hackers are slotless 2 polers as well.

2 pole motors have their place just like 4 pole motors have. Sometimes more rpm's are needed rather then torque.

Neu motors I compare to the big American V8's
Hacker and Lehner I compare to European V12's
Feigao based motors I compare to turbo charged 4 cylinder engines....they run hot, but put out the rpms for a short period of time

The Medusa I have found a home in the CRT.5 that I got from bustitup and does well in that platform (6lbs). I race it against touring cars up to 50mph with 3.2" foams. 60+mph is in the works.
The same motor in my 10lbs rustler didn't do well.

Yep, the hackers are slotless 2 pole motors, the b50 series have one piece magnets like the feigao l can, The c50 series have segmented magnets like the lehners. They run cooler and produce more power than the b50 series. I will say that hackers are way overpriced, especially the b50 motors.

I do agree.