When I worked for WalMart that's what I was told, and we had to do demos for the newer, larger bottles and one of the points we had to put across to the customer was the SA:V ratio of the new bottle vs. the old one.

Really? lol

I could only imagine trying to explain the efficiencies, cost reductions and waste minimization to some housewife coming in to buy soap in at walmart.
"its cheaper that way" seems an easier sell. :)

No kidding. I think I still hear "It's too heavy now!" in my dreams :lol:

Yeah, yeah, I do not have any kids yet... Please do not shoot me! I figured the kiddie shovel was what you described, but I figured that i would ask just in case you had a legit use for it! Sounds like you have a cute kid, hopefully he does not put anyones eye out!!!

Amway, good god that place (idea?) seems to have gone out of style around here. Good thing, as they always try to get you to join, kinda like a cult. I am glad you have 125lbs of it, but keep in mind you can cut up a liquid detergent bottle and use it as a scoop!

Ok, WTF is with the serious off topicness all of a sudden. :whip:

Proline 40 series mulchers are awesome.
Can get the beadloc rims as well.
Just a thought. :D

Dude, the thread got pointless, too many people saying stuff and no actual info.

So I just weighed some stuff. All in grams.

Big Joe tire w/ foam 294.30

Proline 40 series beadlock (commando?) 173.50

Both of the above on the scale at the same time 467.80

Stock lst2 atx tire and 420 wheel 432.90

The lst2 tires are taller than the big joes, and look better, IMO. The 420 wheels do have 20mm hexes, but you can put those tires on any 40 series wheel. I plan to run them as is on my lst with 20mm hexes. They will be quite a bit heavier than the maximizer beadlock/ badlands combo I run now.

I also have some 40 series crimefighters on different wheels

40 crimes on losi 420 wheel 294.5

40 crimes on proline wabash spoked wheel 233.80

I guess you can see which I will run on the Muggy... Saving 60+ grams per wheel, 240 grams total, that is quite a bit in rotating mass. I was going to run the 420 wheels as I have 20mm hexes, but I think the weight savings is worth picking up 23mm hexes to match the wabash wheels.

I have some other wheels and tires hanging around, I can weigh and measure them up and post a thread if you guys like...

Boy, Linc, you're just an abundance of knowledge today... :lol:

Yeah, I have a few large boxes of tires, so I plan to weigh and measure them all. I started a thread in general discussion about that, and added some more info to what I posted above in that thread.

A few??? I only saw 1...

Anyone got the weight of the Axial oversize beadlocks? Linc, did you get a chance to weigh those mulchers yet? Seems like a decently light setup.

i know my ruffrider baja tires on proline rims are well over a pount each. a good estimate would be 600-700g each.

I do not have a set of mulchers to weigh... I have some 40 series Mulchers coming in the mail, so I wil post the weights when I get them...

here's a good list of tires that shows weight and size.
http://www.myrcbox.com/?p=876

i went ahead and bouth some big joe and bead lock tires the cheyenne or whatever proline has in silver....figure if I blow up my ESC like everyone is saying switching I went ahead and bought another mamba monster 2200kv also for back up....hey why not right.

AS for LINCPIMP you are correct we are bickering over something so trivial such as the cool kid club....I once saw a kid get made fun of at the track for having big joes and 40 series tires on his revo..they said it was too big for his truck....j/k