BP-REVO, FP has discontinued the 28, and 33; they are now replaced by the EON X-Lite(25C), EON X30(30C), and if rumor is to be believed, an EON F3A line (which might be around 35 - 40C?)

FP does always underrate their packs, but to be honest, it's probably more accurate in the real world.


The Fullymax packs, what are the prices on those?

From $160-230.

Available in 4S, 5S. and 6S at Impakt.

Well, if the graph is actually true, then they are the same performance as Hyperion G3's, priced 20% higher cost. They are unproven at this point. They look good though.


Metallover, you need to have a graph that has notes about each brand's pack, such as FP and Hyperion have much higher cycle life than other brands, and FP, Neu, Hyp can be charged at 5C rates, etc...

I purchased 2 x 6S 2600mah 35c Flightmax's for $85 each plus shipping from an online store in Hong Kong.

Fullymax, not flightmax. :whistle::wink:

Anyone know what cells SMC uses in their 5200 24C packs?
Has anyone used these? If so, how do they compare to others?

I can hear the difference between 2 amps running the same speakers with the same source material and head unit... I do have an above average IQ, but I doubt that is helping me out much in the listening department...

Nothing against lab equipment, but the human ear is much more sensitive than the best equipment you can find. Plus it can interpret many more variables at the same time than lab equipment. Tube amps sound warmer, different crossover setting impart a different sound and feel. Various digital to analog converters will produce different sounds. I did high end car audio when I was younger and there is a big difference.

And yes, shit can be built cheaper in china than anywhere else... Why do you think most things have made in china stamped on them...

Don't really know, some unknown chinese cells. Freezebyte said he talked to a guy at SMC and said they are coming out with some new packs made with some new gen. cell. I think that's what he said?

Get something else though, such as Neu packs, Hyperion G3's, or even Fullymax packs. The G3 packs are the least expensive of high end packs, and are getting great reviews for both performance and value.

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Sorry about that I meant Fullymax.
I posted that 5 in the morning

Oh, no probs. Just don't let it happen again. :whip:

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Oh I didn't even notice your post Linc. You are right, the human brain actually is what is doing the listening... and yes, you can hear differences that a techy in a lab says you are full of shit. There are some things that test equipment is pointless to be used on, and hi-fi audio is naturally one of those things. Not trying to be a braggart, but I can tell the difference between O.F. copper interconnects and silver interconnects, as well as the difference between two different rectifier tubes on the phono-stage preamp. It has a lot to do with the system being very natural, open, and almost free of influence/dampening. This is on a new gen. turn table might I add, which up until 3 years ago, I thought was an inferior medium to store music on.... quite the contrary.


Metallover, you need to have a graph that has notes about each brand's pack, such as FP and Hyperion have much higher cycle life than other brands, and FP, Neu, Hyp can be charged at 5C rates, etc...

FP EONs are Enerland cells, which quickly faded out, replaced by Chinese made EON-X series.

All major pack brands are now using Chinese cells, except PolyQuest of Enerland. Kokam still has some OEM relationships with certain packs but mainly sold in Europe.

Yeah, I mentioned that a few posts back. A123 bought out Enerland and Polyquest is the exclusive Enerland cell packs now.

I think if FP is going to the new Chinese cells, then they must be good. :smile:

I just got (2) 2s Hyperion G3 VX 5500 35C's in. Pack quality and construction is way above Par! It comes with nice thick 10 gauge leads. The pack is super tight. I'll get some Deans soldered on tomorrow and get them a good thrashing with the Summit. I know its not an amp hog but these should wake the beast up.