Freeze, this basher has excellent customer support, fits your driving style and should alleviate your battery concerns http://www.amazon.com/Fisher-Price-R.../dp/B001M29CT0

Skip the savage and convert an LST2/XXL. Put in a CC 1520 on 6s geared for 45-50 and have fun.

Linc i think he wants to set himself up for failure and dissappointment, he must be a little emo kid inside that needs something else to whine about because he sure wont listen to anyone.

I REALLY Have to Agree with Paralyzed^^^. Get a Nice Truggy MMM CC1518/6s. I have spent so much on my rides and this is The Most Logical Solution. They Are Tough and Hanlde well... We wont have another one of these Threads if You follow this path...

Why consider the Flux again. It bored you in the past and you sold it... Losing how much?...

Stop talking so much sense, all of you!

Savages are fun, but truggies are tougher. If you didn't enjoy it enough to not sell it the first time around, I don't see getting another.

I dont know...I have an 8T, a Muggy, and a Flux. So far, the best basher has been the Flux (when it was stock...). The 8T just does not have the ground clearance. I haven't had enough drive time with the Muggy yet to really say one way or another on it - but it does show some promise performance wise. The stock Flux has by far taken more abuse than any truck I've ever run, and kept coming back for more. The only things that have broken on me have been from aftermarket items that I have added (the LST shocks, the FLM bulks).

I also agree that 4S just is not enough for that truck. Needs to be 5S or 6S. I've always run mine on 6S with stock gearing, and have yet to have an ESC or motor issue.

The Savage is pretty tough, but I could beat the piss out of my hyper st, and I've only ever broken a wing in the several years I've owned it (cartwheels on frozen ground in winter.)

I think I broke an arm once when it flew off a bump in the grass and hit a tree @ 30-40mph and 6 ft off the ground (awesome crash) but maybe I just popped a ball out of the socket. I know I fixed in within a few mins and was drving again. The hyper is built like a tank, so ymmv.

I know my savage is tough, but its def broke more than the HST. I kill body posts all the time, trashed a bunch of diffs, and broke many front arms. Its not terrible mind you, but seriously, I still have bags of sapre parts I got off ebay years ago when I bought the truck and have not used really any of them.

Driving up hills and rugged off road, the Savage is better. In the dirt, dunes and grassy fields etc, the truggy is a rocket. I still drive the Sav a bit more, as I like it as a big lumbering monster, but if Freeze is really worried about breaking things, he may want to go another direction, esp given the terrain he always shows in his vids.

I had a muggy before I got the Sav. It was an ok truck, but I hated it personally. It would be better at handling than the Sav, but there were just a lot of little things that just pissed me off. 5-40 screws? WTF is that? I know some people love Losi, but I've been disappointed with any one I've ever gotten. To ea his own.

I brushed a wood wall the other day with the muggy at a fair speed - maybe around 30. Knocked something out of alignment in the front end. So I'm not certain as to its reliability yet. I hear you on the different screws. Personally, I just want all of my rigs to run the same fasteners - dont care if its metric or "US".

I think from what I've read, the HST might be a bit more reliable than the 8T (but that's just a general impression). Although, the only thing I've broken on the 8T is something in the rear diff (haven't had time to put that back together yet either).

I've been wondering how tough it would be to "muggify" my 8T to give it some additional clearance, and more of that MT feel/look.

Ok, were getting way off topic from my original questions, so i'll sum this up easy like:


1. All your input and advise is appreciated, thank you

2. I'm firm set on getting another Flux, so no, I will not being do any kind of conversion as I simply don't want to, have the money, time or skills to do it. I like and prefer out of box convienence, even if I have to spend a bit more to "bulletproof it" I want a "monster truck" with its clearance and looks. Not a damn track "truggy" End of discussion.

3. This being my distant secondary hobby, I cannot justify the costs for your high end charger and battery recommendations. I also don't want seperate PSU's for my chargers, I want it all in one for simplicity. Simple as that.

4. I'll take my chances with 4S as its:
A: Easier on the truck
B: Cheaper
C: Gives me plenty of power/speed for my needs
D: Fewer people "fry" fluxes with 4S vs 6S.

5. I got rid of my 1st Savage Flux for one reason and one reason only, I was dying to try out a Baja. Now that I have, I have a new perspective on what I want out of this hobby, and 1/5 scale ownership isn't it.

You must realize that most here are all about over excessive. It is a more of "Why not?" not "Why?" Trust me I am one of them. I was originally thinking a 2650 on 3s for my ten t that I am converting. That turned into a 2200 on 4s with possibility still in the air for 5s.

I still recommend the hobbypartz dual power charger. It will take a bit longer to charge a 4000-5000 mah pack but it only costs 50-60. No internal fan, but I have charged back to back packs on it many times and it doesn't get hot.

I would say the 4s is fine. I ran my E-Revo on 6s once, scary. 4s is fun and fast and reliable.

Hope your enjoyment of the hobby continues.

Freeze, you asked, we answered. When you have problems don't come back here whining asking for help and advice when you don't take what is given.

You have obviously made up your mind so why bother at all. Enjoy your decision and best of luck to you.

Have fun with the flux dude, good truck. Buy some decent lipos from HC and get whatever charger you want. Just have fun. After that maxamps thread I am through with giving my advice. You are not a dumbass and I am sure you do research. Go with what you want and enjoy it. Who cares what the rest of us say, that is our idea on what is fun.

All this coming from a guy that has not touched an rc for about 7 months. I just gave up and moved on with my life...

May I suggest a Traxxas Summit with a Dewalt Brushed Motor?

...I actually prefer this to the Flux (having had both).

Ha ha, very cute with the toy rc suggestion, keep it up smart asses :whip:


Still trying to sell the 5T and its proving to be a PITA, not to mention im gonna take more of a loss then I wanted to sell it. Ung.....

I have decided to go with the nicest Turnigys that are in stock at the time and I think i'll stick with the original Dynamite charger. If I have problems with it, I can return it to my LHS and go from there, but im not dealing with seperate DC PSU's no matter what. My triton 2 was a good charger, but just overpriced and the Dynamite can do more for less, so its a no brainer. Thanks for input all, It'll be nice getting a Flux with the bulletproof diffs and 2.4ghz radio outa the box

Also, unlike my picky SMC batteries, have you guys had any issues with leaving your Turnigy's fully charged for long periods of time without using them? I really wanna be able to just charge my packs and then one day, go outside and bash rather then dealing with this lame 12 hour window that SMC batteries had.

I haven't had any problems storing my lipos fully charged. The stock hpi 2.4 radio is 2.4, but not much else. If you don't set endpoints or program your radio much this won't matter.....

An LST comes with a spektrum:na: