I unlocked the axles and removed the front motor. I only have one BL system in it with a MM powering it on 7.4V. It seemed really peppy and moved really well. I put LST shocks on it and they are way to much shock, but look really good. When I take a jump it bounces a lot and looks really funny. I'm going to have to switch back to t-maxx shocks. The reason I wanna switch to a Dragoon chassis is because it can take more punishment. I do a lot of jumping and bashing and I know I'm just going to ruin the Stealth Chassis. The Dragoon was made for bashing.

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With the dual BL motor thing, it is actually possible to run 2 from one esc- see griffinRu's sig for more details. It not a simple thing to do, but for a crawling application like this it may just work & be alot cheaper than two whole new systems (just add another motor the same as you are already using)....

Clod - great job on it!! Awesome looking truck.

thanks man! much appreciated. i can't take too much credit as kits don't allow much creativity (bluonyx sure put creativity in his though!), but it should be fun.

i say should, b/c i haven't run it yet. still waiting on two stupid 4mm bullet connectors to arrive...

made some progress this weekend, but this build seems to be getting held back by stupid little things i didn't think of ahead of time.

* waited over 2 weeks for some bullet connectors Bishop PP was sending as 'freebies'... they never came. guess they weren't so free after all. anyhow, bought some 4mm male bullet connectors and got the motors and ESC hooked up.

* this is the first MM i've hooked up to brushed motors - so no beeps when it arms! i never knew! anyhow, plugged everything in to make sure it worked, programmed the MM, and when i hit the throttle it would... lurch a lot. but wouldn't run. i tore my gearboxes apart, tested my motors away from the gears, everything i could think of. then it hit me... the MM is pre-programmed for brushless motors out of the box. hooked it up to the computer, changed the setting to 'brushed', and viola - she works. GREAT too! :happy:

* i can't fit both 2s2p packs of my a123 cells in there. can't figure this one out. the lower tray will only hold a single 2s2p pack. not sure what to do, but i'll figure something out.

* MORE small parts to order! servo horns for both 645mg's. oh - and the stupid y harness i bought from my LHS for the servos doesn't work, so i had to order another one.

maybe i need to do a native american dance in my living room to the God of R/C's... :grrrrrr:

Which brushed motors are you running again? Provided they are 7.2v jobbies -or there abouts-, I would have thought 4 A123 cells in 2s2p would be plenty of juice; I hear people saying things like 1hour run times with just Nimh packs, so you should be fine with 2s2p?... or maybe run 4s1p if you have 14.4v motors, something like that.

i have a pair of integy 55t lathe motors. they say they're good for 6 cells (each motor), and a single 2s2p pack will make it move well. but i wanted the extra 'pop' and torque of 4s2p. :happy:

(if i'm going to do it, i may as well do it right! right?)

unfortunately i can't do 4s1p with the packs i have. i have two 2s2p packs and two 3s1p packs. i could always go with a single 3s1p, or..... GULP... try 5s2p! woo hooo!

Nutter.... 3s1p sounds good to me.

nutter.... hey, i resemble that remark!!

sure 3s sounds good, in theory, until you see and feel this beast. it's big and heavy, whereas comp crawlers (even the supers) are made to be as light as possible. plus these guys have anywhere from 6-10 cells in a pack at the axles. i'll weigh it tonight, but i'd guess she's around the 10-12 lb. mark. the motors/electronics are on par with a maxx in terms of performance (higher turns tho). so, 3s would run a maxx too... but not as well as 4-5s.

granted, it won't be a speed machine... but the lack of speed will be gained in torque and crawling performance (seemingly unlimited power to go over and up anything). 3s is only 9.9 volts - and the system i have can take much more.

who knows - i'll try it on 3s, but i have a feeling i'll be trying to figure out how to get those 4s packs into it somewhere. gotta get those last few parts from tower to finish her though! C'MON TOWER, YOU CAN DO IT!

Lol, have you considered something like a 'saddle pack', that way the 2nd pair of cells could mount on a custom shelf mounted maybe up front or in the rear- like a parcel shelf in a 1:1?...

As for weight, yeah, I see how lots of guys stick their cells as low as possible, some even manage to fit them on the steering knuckle joint area, so they are almost inside the wheel rims on either side. Not for me/you though- my TXT-1 creation weighed 12.5lbs; definately not for comp crawling....

sweet googly-moogely.

ran some tests today on the stealth - no steering yet (STILL waiting on that stupid y-harness from tower), but i tested it over some backyard rocks with the following a123 configurations:

* 3s - not even worth it. i was right - it does run, but has almost no climbing power (quickly realizing how bad these tires are for climbing too. no stickiness)
* 4s - now we're getting there! much better power. i was able to climb most things, but taking a vertical wall made it work. it climbed, but...just a little... more juice...
* 5s - PERFECT! lots of power at hand, and nothing stopped it. it scaled the vertical wall like spidey, even with the garbage tires.

so, 5s it is! i checked temps on the MM, and it was hardly even warm - even with no fan (i am using the CC BEC to get 6v to both 645mg servos, though). this thing is amazing - a waaaaaay better crawler than my old modified JPS clod. it has a longer wheelbase and lower COG, which helps immensely.

bad news? with 5s2p a123 batts, the weight is 12 lbs. 6 ozs. heck, just the batts alone are 1 lb 14.3 oz. (with a parallel deans harness and series deans harness included).

that's 16.5v through the latest MM esc - internal BEC disabled, of course.

can't wait to really give this a workout! now if only that tower order would show up...

Wow, I suprized it really needed 5s to make it come alive, but if it climbs that well then its ideal.

55t motors on 5s a123 would be very nice. I like to run mine on 4s lipo. I still crawl though, not bashing so much. That is what the emaxx and wheelie king are for.

just an update on my Stealth:

* bought a 2nd MM and a Spektrum DX6. the plan is to hook one MM up to the front motor, and one stick on the radio controls the front forward/reverse and the front left/right steering. the other stick controls the same for the rear. i can get creative with some channel mixing, but i plan to keep it simple. oh - and she'll have DIG. :mdr:

* the plan is to go outrunner BL for both - just not sure which model yet. most likely a Holmes Crawlmaster (they're sealed, and black! hee hee)

* a single a123 3s1p pack will power each MM, and a castle BEC is already providing the 6v of juice to both servos. with the configurations of my current packs, i can only go 3s1p on each, or 2s2p. but to go 3s2p or 4s2p, i'll have a 'boat load' of battery weight as it'll be X2. someday i may build a 5s1p pack they can both draw off of, but for now it's 3s1p each. obviously it's not ideal to run 2 packs as the rear pack could give out before the front, but i'm not competing. just having fun. :tongue:

i'll get updated pics up once i have the latest changes installed.

Mmmm sounds good. Makes me want a crawler. I think I am going to have to get a second job. I didn't realise the stealths were so heavy.