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captain harlock 04.24.2008 08:41 AM

Okay, I'll say something that'll piss you all off( don't get angry with me though, just for fun and discussion) although it might seems a bit sadistic.

Well, what if you got the system and you are totally enraptured by it's quality? You did not sleep at night and kept working on the MMM and the motor. You put it in your truggy or buggy and your heart pulse has gone sky high with excitement.
Although it's 3 AM, you went out to the street and wanted to give your vehicle a shot.
One pass, another pass....man!!! this thing is SICKKKKKKKK!!!!
On the third pass, the vehicle started cogging like crazy without any prior warning and it suddenly stopped............:(.....you went to the car, took off the body, started inspecting the $300+ system and then.....puffffffff......smoke is out........
Hmmmmmm.....this might happen right? ( well, I hope none of you will face such an incident), but that's still possible...so be careful.

rhylsadar 04.24.2008 09:03 AM

well it may happen.... however if you are doing it the way you describe it above you violate the number one modelers rule: "never work on your models in a hurry!". if you are making mistakes (wrong wiring, bad soldering, confuse something etc) you mostly do it because you are in a hurry. i learned that the hard way. as it is a hobby and not a job you should always be relaxed working on your cars. in the end you are even faster and make fewer mistakes. i try to follow this rule more the older i get. e.g. i skip this 3 am in the morning testing-thing etc. you can be sure you mess up something doing it.
just my 2 cents. :angel:

rhylsadar

lutach 04.24.2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock (Post 165838)
Okay, I'll say something that'll piss you all off( don't get angry with me though, just for fun and discussion) although it might seems a bit sadistic.

Well, what if you got the system and you are totally enraptured by it's quality? You did not sleep at night and kept working on the MMM and the motor. You put it in your truggy or buggy and your heart pulse has gone sky high with excitement.
Although it's 3 AM, you went out to the street and wanted to give your vehicle a shot.
One pass, another pass....man!!! this thing is SICKKKKKKKK!!!!
On the third pass, the vehicle started cogging like crazy without any prior warning and it suddenly stopped............:(.....you went to the car, took off the body, started inspecting the $300+ system and then.....puffffffff......smoke is out........
Hmmmmmm.....this might happen right? ( well, I hope none of you will face such an incident), but that's still possible...so be careful.

Working as a distributor of electronic components, I have to keep up with all the EMS providers and manufacturers to find out if anything gets recalled. I remember when the company that was doing the PS3 sent out the list of components to be quoted. I got the list and I didn't waste my time to quote it out. A lot of the times when things goes bad with electronics, they blame the person who sold them first. When the PS3 hit the market I know a few units got recalled. That's why I like to wait a few before I buy my things. Some components might be defective from a bad batch of silicon wafer that went undetected. After you all done your testing with the MMM and gives the OK, I'll get one.

BrianG 04.24.2008 09:39 AM

^ +1. I agree with waiting for the "bugs" to be worked out. Unless you are in dire need of the MMM, I would wait a little while. I was one of the first several people to get a MM and happened to be lucky (and never ran it past what it was intended for), but look at the other ESCs (Quark, MGM, etc) and the little quirks many have that were found out only after they were ran in multiple setups.

johnrobholmes 04.24.2008 10:01 AM

I feel comfortable buying from the first production run because Castle bench tests every controller.

BrianG 04.24.2008 10:16 AM

They do? Wow, that's kinda nice!

lincpimp 04.24.2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six (Post 165784)
And bring the goods in a unmarked brown paper bag!


Hmmm, I have something I made myself that you may call a "monster" that I can put in a brown paper bag. It does not smell very good, but it will certainly keep the nitro guys away!







Ps, it is poo.

gixxer 04.24.2008 10:41 AM

Based on how well my MM has performed I really am not concerned about being one of the first to test the Monster.

TexasSP 04.24.2008 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 165873)
Hmmm, I have something I made myself that you may call a "monster" that I can put in a brown paper bag. It does not smell very good, but it will certainly keep the nitro guys away!

Ps, it is poo.

ROFLMAO! :rofl:

B E A utiful linc, great start to the morning!

BrianG 04.24.2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 165891)
...B E A utiful...

A "Bruce Almighty" quote?

Lars_L 04.24.2008 01:55 PM

Web pre-order is open!!!

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...a_monster.html

lutach 04.24.2008 01:57 PM

Pinion link goes straight to rc-monster. Now that is cool.

suicideneil 04.24.2008 02:17 PM

Mike better get busy making more pinions then.... :mdr:

skellyo 04.24.2008 02:18 PM

I can't believe they're really pushing the 1515 1Y for use on 6S and a 1512 1Y for 4S.

Maciolus 04.24.2008 02:23 PM

25V:party:

7*3.7= 25.9V
8*3.3= 26.4V

BrianG 04.24.2008 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 165934)
I can't believe they're really pushing the 1515 1Y for use on 6S and a 1512 1Y for 4S.

Why is that? The 1512 1y (kv=2750) on 4s is ~41krpm, and the 1515 1Y (kv=2200) is ~32krpm. I would even go up to 5s on each as long as it is geared right...

BrianG 04.24.2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maciolus (Post 165937)
25V:party:

7*3.7= 25.9V
8*3.3= 26.4V

Don't forget that lipos are 4.2v/cell, or 29.4v on 7s - and A123s are 3.6v/cell or 28.8v on 8s. Some components may not like that even though the voltage will drop fairly quickly.

gixxer 04.24.2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 165926)
Pinion link goes straight to rc-monster. Now that is cool.

that is very cool. :yes:
does the esc come with the castle link or do we have to buy that separately? Just want to make sure I have everything I will need.

skellyo 04.24.2008 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 165938)
Why is that? The 1512 1y (kv=2750) on 4s is ~41krpm, and the 1515 1Y (kv=2200) is ~32krpm. I would even go up to 5s on each as long as it is geared right...


Umm, Brian, 6S on the 1515 1Y is what they recommend...not 4S. That's 48.8k RPM.

BrianG 04.24.2008 02:31 PM

Oops, I guess I missed that. :oops:

Arct1k 04.24.2008 02:33 PM

VERY tempted but I'm NOT going to do it... I will order from a distributer...

skellyo 04.24.2008 02:36 PM

Also, it would have been nice had they clarified that it's ok to use less than 6S on a 1515/1Y and that the 1512/1Y may not be a good choice for a 1/8th scale truggy. Here's their misleading text:

NEU 1515 1 Y for 6S 1/8th scale and 6S MONSTER TRUCKS
NEU 1512 1 Y for 1/8th scale conversions on 4S max

lutach 04.24.2008 02:37 PM

I will wait for you guys to give tests results :lol:.

lincpimp 04.24.2008 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 165948)
I will wait for you guys to give tests results :lol:.

I will wait as well. Not with lutach though, unless he wears his dress...

Plus I will get a few from Mike, no need to buy one right now, half off my rc collection is in pieces being re-vamped.

lutach 04.24.2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 165966)
I will wait as well. Not with lutach though, unless he wears his dress...

Plus I will get a few from Mike, no need to buy one right now, half off my rc collection is in pieces being re-vamped.

If I go over your place, I'll be bringing some strong sleeping pill for you my friend. Just don't come chasing me when all of your R/Cs are gone :lol:.

lincpimp 04.24.2008 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 165968)
If I go over your place, I'll be bringing some strong sleeping pill for you my friend. Just don't come chasing me when all of your R/Cs are gone :lol:.

Might be worth it to see you in a dress!?:party:

SilentMonster 04.24.2008 04:00 PM

It's a CC product......why would one wait for testing? Even if it sends off an Indian signal it will get replaced pronto. I don't see a reason to be hesitant. Castle has the best customer service going.

Guess I've gotta toss the 6mm connectors.:')

lutach 04.24.2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentMonster (Post 165970)
It's a CC product......why would one wait for testing? Even if it sends off an Indian signal it will get replaced pronto. I don't see a reason to be hesitant. Castle has the best customer service going.

Guess I've gotta toss the 6mm connectors.:')

Picture this, I still have to send them my HV110 and my MM. My time goes 100% for my daughter and the 10% (For the I give 110% effect) goes for running my business. Good thing my suppliers can drop ship to my clients now. Before it was a pain.

Edit: I'll give myself 1%. When she's busy eating and sleeping. I'm usually here :lol:.

zeropointbug 04.25.2008 01:16 AM

Giggity, giggity.......... giggity-goo


Man I have been off the forum for too long! I am for sure buying a MMM up at the intro price. It's bigger than I originally thought, wow, it's even on the big side.

On a side note, how do you mount the thing? zip-ties?

team3six 04.25.2008 01:37 AM

Well I am glad its finally being put into production and selling. :yipi: The best deal for me is reguardless on how well Castle is testing it, Its still being assembled else where. So I seriously doubt that Castle is road testing every unit being processed. :whistle: Same goes for the motors! So I would like to personally thank all the hampsters paying for thier injections of Sacarin for testing. :drunk:because this will give me some insight to how well the effects are. If we all see 6 forums up and running bantering on in a bad way much like the past has been on the fact of the MMM not being released. Well sure signs will point that Castle might of reacted too quickly based on a little slipping of the lips.:oops:

Hope fully we wont see that effect and the rest of us monkey's waiting to join in on the fun will be hitting the shelves, forums, and yes, RC Monster for our addiction on a full BLMT system. :oh:

SilentMonster 04.25.2008 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 165972)
Picture this, I still have to send them my HV110 and my MM. My time goes 100% for my daughter and the 10% (For the I give 110% effect) goes for running my business. Good thing my suppliers can drop ship to my clients now. Before it was a pain.

Edit: I'll give myself 1%. When she's busy eating and sleeping. I'm usually here :lol:.

Point well taken. Sounds like you have your priorities in line. Not enough people like you in this world. :great:

luvsrc 04.25.2008 07:25 AM

I just pre ordered two monster mamba esc with theri 6.5mm connectors :mdr:

Dagger Thrasher 04.25.2008 07:28 AM

Quote:

The best deal for me is reguardless on how well Castle is testing it, Its still being assembled else where. So I seriously doubt that Castle is road testing every unit being processed. Same goes for the motors!
Nah, Castle assemble all their ESCs in-house...and I'm pretty sure that when they posted up the photo-tour of their facility, they showed the testing area where they test each unit.:smile:

It's fantastic to see that the MMM is so close though...I musta read through the new product page half a dozen times lol! I just wish I had a reason to snap one up right now.

Dafni 04.25.2008 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagger Thrasher (Post 166139)
... I just wish I had a reason to snap one up right now.

where there's a will, there's an excuse! :yes:

Dagger Thrasher 04.25.2008 08:44 AM

Hehehe! That's true...*thinks hard for an excuse*

bdebde 04.25.2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagger Thrasher (Post 166139)
Nah, Castle assemble all their ESCs in-house...and I'm pretty sure that when they posted up the photo-tour of their facility, they showed the testing area where they test each unit.:smile:

It's fantastic to see that the MMM is so close though...I musta read through the new product page half a dozen times lol! I just wish I had a reason to snap one up right now.

"Every ESC is double tested before leaving Castle Creations" ... from the picture tour of CC.

Pdelcast 04.25.2008 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six (Post 166087)
Well I am glad its finally being put into production and selling. :yipi: The best deal for me is reguardless on how well Castle is testing it, Its still being assembled else where.

The MMM is being assembled in our facility in Kansas. Not else where.

We don't "road test" each unit -- it would take too much time, and we would have to buy too many cars to actually road test them.... (Especially if I was driving! Ask anyone about the EMAXX sized hole in our wooden fence behind the shop!)

We do, however, test each unit for circuit completeness and part placement, (optical inspection), for full functional testing (such as voltage cutoff, torque limiting, etc.) and for full load capability. These are done as separate tests during production.

Patrick del Castillo
President
Castle Creations

TexasSP 04.25.2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

The MMM is being assembled in our facility in Kansas. Not else where.
Oh, so that's what the made in USA label means! :yes:

Patrick, I think you should put up pictures of this "e-maxx sized hole", you know, just to prove how powerful the Mamba Monster is and all. I am sure no one would laugh or poke fun at you. :whistle:

BTW, thanks for the info on your testing procedures.

Pdelcast 04.25.2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 166232)
Oh, so that's what the made in USA label means! :yes:

Patrick, I think you should put up pictures of this "e-maxx sized hole", you know, just to prove how powerful the Mamba Monster is and all. I am sure no one would laugh or poke fun at you. :whistle:

BTW, thanks for the info on your testing procedures.


Hey, that's:

Made in the USA*
*using US and foreign origin components


Can't say "Made in the USA" (unqualified) in California, unless you cut down the tree, and whittle the toothpicks yourself, make the carton material (chew up the pulp and spit onto screens to make the paper -- and I'm not really sure how to make ink...) and pack it yourself, using only fuel you created yourself (digging for coal in your backyard? -- How else could you prove it was US origin energy?) to run your business. Remember, people have been sued in California because their entire product was made in the USA except for ONE SCREW that was made in Taiwan. We don't want to give the lawyers MORE money, now do we? :sarcastic: The sad thing is... I'm not kidding.


And I'm sure you won't laugh at my fence hole. It wasn't really my fault, I didn't know it took so long to stop an Emaxx going 70mph... :neutral:
Good thing Mike was able to jump out of the way.


Patrick del Castillo
President ("Keep the transmitter away from that guy!")
Castle Creations

lutach 04.25.2008 01:48 PM

Patrick,

Will an HV version be coming out soon? I don't want to keep bugging you about it. I just would like to have a great US based company coming out with HV products. I asked Mr. Schulze if he could make a car controller that will handle anything close to the SHV and he said, "Nobody in Europe will run with more than 14 LiPos because 60 Volts are maximum for our applications by law". I will sign the waiver and get a few SHV Monster Max or just a 12S capable Monster Max will do.


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