nope, price at the moment. and I figured quad would be better than a slightly higher clock on a duo chip. I'm not sure. I do alot of encoding and rendering. if I feel it's still too slow, I'll get a faster chip. the shuttle barebones comes with a motherboard, with onboard video, vga, AND dvi.. i'm already running dual monitors, so I thought that would work perfect.. but now that you ask, I realize that the onboard video might not support solidworks' "realview".. I've got an nVidia 7600gs, not sure if that works, or if I can edit the driver to make it a "quadro".
my current pc has an ATI 9800pro in it mod'd to a "FireGL X2", and it works great, but it's an agp card.

and 64bit, yes :)

I was thinking I'd just use a spare ~400W psu if the included one isn't stable.
I don't need any storage, I wanted a FAST drive.. but just not scsi fast ;). my other computer's a mini server with 9 hard drives ~3.5TB.

The shuttle PSU's are pretty high quality although I think that barebones only has a 250 mine was the larger case that came with a 400.

The "better" quad is about $100 more - these chips's OC really well but the shuttles don't tend to have the best bios for it. You should be able to get a 10% clock bump though pretty easily.

For rendering I agree a quad will be better - my core 2 E6600 2.4ghz native runs fine at 3.25 on air.

I'd look for one of the newer Nvidia's always EVGA as there warrantee is as good as castle

Ya it kinda does look like a mix between the two ben. :P

I guess I overexaggerate things.

Ben, be grate full, i have a IBM Thinkpad, pentium 2, 128mb of ram, 6.8 gb of hard drive, and running win xp hacked with vista theme :intello:

putting a vista theme on xp aint hacking....

you forget to mention your hous comp trev..:whistle:

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...tormountv4.jpg

Just got off the phone with Mike, gave me a few suggestions for the moutn portion of my system-
1. Bearing stops
2. motor mount screw countersinks


waiting for what he says about the revision, then what price he wants for them all

Somebody mention CAD? I'm your huckleberry then. :yes: The below pic was my first truggy conversion and is outdated in every way. The latest truggy design is beautiful but I am not allowed to show it or Mike would kill me.



http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...tmountidea.jpg

Nice Cadima, whats this truggy that your talking about based on? and is mike going to make it?

Do tell....:whistle:

based on nothing. Dreamed up from scratch to serve one purpose.....dominate the 1/8 scale. Nitro, brushless, no matter. It's made to beat what you are driving right now and I don't even know what you have. Mike will be selling them. They're not conversions of ther brands' truggies. They're his own line of tr(b)uggies. I'm guessing late spring for the entry level model. Still have work to do on the "reference" version.

wow.. thats awesome! any chance at a sneak peak?

no f'in way, sorry. Mike hates when I do that. The entry level concept was shown at the Monster Bash 2008 not long ago IIRC. Maybe someone has a pic of it to share or if you convince mike it's ok, I can slip a few renderings of the version mike had on display.

I knew i should have went :no:

CAD is more fun when you get to see the fruit of your labor, that is...............getting the parts made in real life! :yipi: Here's a pic of the real truggy that was made from the above CAD files. Considering it was my first truggy, first 4wd, and first 1/8, I think it was sweet and still to this day when I dream of new layouts for truggies I find myself circling back to this one as a valid solution to the project objective.

if you want to see the project, there's a thread on the thing from initial CAD concept to final design. The truggy was stolen and I even got it back. Quite a trip that truggy's had.

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5371

:smile:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...RTFinal004.jpg

I have studied that thread... i just dont have anyone to sponsor me to machine the parts.. no CNC machine and no raw materials...

yup, nor did I until some planets aligned. And it took forever. Definately helps to have connections!

but the thing is.. im 16 going on 17.. no job..:no:

Im open to options if your sponsor needs more help :yes:

I figured you were from the name. Go get an engineering degree and you can do crap like this for a living. No hurry.

And I assure you nothing is for free. My "sponsors" used plenty of my time just the same. But who's counting anyway? Right.

These are CAD pics of my "X2" speed run car. I initially designed the whole car in CATIA V5 then did some tweaking in Solidworks. I started designing it in late 2005. There are a couple different iterations that the car went through before I started to fabricate.

I had initially designed it with a Lehner, then I switched to a Neu. My first design used a 1/8 scale type wheel connection then I switched to a 1/10 hub. I am still testing the X2 today.

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wow, thats a work of art b4Maz... How fast has it gone?

Thanks Brushless! 89 mph as of last weekend. I keep blowing tires but I think I have solved the problem. I needed a lot more down force. Its front wheel drive. I found that I cant run the car rear wheel drive. Its impossible even with a gyro. This is what it looks like in its current form:

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Here is a video of the 89 mph run:

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89 is still fast..

keep us posted :D

No problem. Its designed to go around 110mph on 8s.

What rpm is the 2215 designed to run at max on 8s?

The KV on the 2215/3Y is 480. Assuming 3.5v per cell on 8s equals about 13,400 RPM.

wow, i wonder if they are made to be most efficient at higher rpms like the 15xx series, you would need either a really high Kv or lots and lots of voltage :D

that always makes for a good time

Made a few new things.

Universal kb45 Mount-
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...motormount.jpg


And a mount to fit my matrix truggy.... with its gigantic 66t spur
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/atta...0&d=1229203197

nobody's even gonna mention the slipper diff on this ride? WTF!

old news lol. waiting on the production slipperential :lol:

yeah, i don't like slippers, but that's me. i'm just curious when????:neutral:

its a mystery, last i heard it was being patented.

Yesterday I started to work with a CAD program: Google SketchUp..
I didn't wan't to download Solidworks ( 800MB or something.. )

Anyway, this is my motor mount I want in my Losi..

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5...rmount1xe1.png
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9...rmount2nl2.png


And guess what; I like it :lol:

The google cad program isnt bad for beginers. I actually like how easy it is to work with compared to others.

Try and find a download for ProDesktop 8.0, great program, it's what I use.

Warning! Its difficult if you havent had past CAD program experiences.:yes:

I love Solidworks. It's simple to use and the most powerful program I've ever seen.

I love solidworks too. I use it at work for printer design. I started to draw up a new chassis for my emaxx, but that project got canned when I converted a truggy.

I like solid works but its yah to much for my POS comp..(circa 1999)