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RBMike 09.07.2008 08:46 PM

I have 3's working V2 now, 2 with more than 1 hour on them & 1 with about 3 hours on it. Out of these, 1 fan broke (blades). I only put 1 good in the poll. No mods.

brushlessboy16 09.07.2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RBMike (Post 210250)
I have 3's working V2 now, 2 with more than 1 hour on them & 1 with about 3 hours on it. Out of these, 1 fan broke (blades). I only put 1 good in the poll. No mods.

lucky you\:whistle::na:

e-mike 09.07.2008 09:12 PM

hoooo yes lucky you are:yes:

e-mikey 09.07.2008 09:57 PM

Do you guys think I could get 180.00 shipped for a brand new one? The box was not even opened.

brushlessboy16 09.07.2008 09:58 PM

probably not, retail is 170 or so

e-mikey 09.07.2008 09:58 PM

lol..

"Mamba Monster is here. Finally, a bulletproof Castle controller for MONSTER TRUCKS AND 1/8th Scale Conversions. Is your truck ready?"

e-mikey 09.07.2008 10:01 PM

I'll take 175.00 shipped in the US.

asheck 09.07.2008 10:05 PM

They are 165 shipped on the bay.

e-mikey 09.07.2008 10:08 PM

165 shipped it is..

DRIFT_BUGGY 09.08.2008 05:09 AM

My V1 got a flogging on the weekend and got grass/debris all inside it and still no problems. Fan still works (original fan)

http://www.geocities.com/athowells_r...m/img_2402.jpg

ffactory666 09.09.2008 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 210359)
My V1 got a flogging on the weekend and got grass/debris all inside it and still no problems. Fan still works (original fan)

http://www.geocities.com/athowells_r...m/img_2402.jpg

Not trying to jinx you and wish you further success but i think you have a freak v1 , heck even v2 are not working that well without mods .Whatever you do don't touch it , modify it or change any of your set up .

DRIFT_BUGGY 09.09.2008 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ffactory666 (Post 210668)
Not trying to jinx you and wish you further success but i think you have a freak v1 , heck even v2 are not working that well without mods .Whatever you do don't touch it , modify it or change any of your set up .

lol, don't plan on it. It's excellent. About 120F is the hottest it has got which was racing no stop for 40minutes. :party:

JeffEmbracedDC 09.09.2008 04:38 AM

Chapito is also on his first v1 and it's held up through many many runs. First in his Revo and now his LST2 (both with 4s and a 1515/1Y). It seems there are some V1 ESCs that contain perfectly fine BEC components.

-Jeff

123revo 09.09.2008 05:58 AM

mine seems to be working now with only a 3600mah 2s test pack running through it. i am very reluctant at this point to invest anymore in batteries and servos. the failure rate of this product is just starting to sink in given that at ANY point the esc can malfunction and take out my packs and servos as well as the esc with it. all this and the manufacturer is not liable for this extent of damage. to me now really defeats the purpose of buying the MMM in the first place and am now seriously considering the trip back to Novak. sad but true.

auto2 09.09.2008 08:49 AM

well 123revo if it helps any i have my origional v1 from the first batch and a v2 and never a problem. wish my mmm's broke and i won the lottery but it seems my mmm's are perfect so ill never win the lottery.......

RBMike 09.09.2008 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RBMike (Post 210250)
I have 3's working V2 now, 2 with more than 1 hour on them & 1 with about 3 hours on it. Out of these, 1 fan broke (blades). I only put 1 good in the poll. No mods.

Update: The MMM with the broken fan blades now has a broken fan connector. When I went to replace the fan with the broken blades the connector came right off the board. No matter what CC does to fix the dead MMM issue, there will alway be the mechanical issue on this SMT bottom mounted fan connector & poor fan wire routing & fan to grill clearance. (Until they get sick of fixing fans/connectors & move it.)

BrianG 09.09.2008 02:26 PM

Many are adding some type of foam standoffs placed on the motor and power solder areas to keep the circuits from hitting the case. That and a little dremeling of the case to allow more clearance. The foam solution works well and requires no permanent modification - just 2-3mm of added foam provides the clearance needed.

lincpimp 09.09.2008 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 210769)
Many are adding some type of foam standoffs placed on the motor and power solder areas to keep the circuits from hitting the case. That and a little dremeling of the case to allow more clearance. The foam solution works well and requires no permanent modification - just 2-3mm of added foam provides the clearance needed.

CC really need to add some sort of pcb suspension, or something. When I pulled the bottom plate off the dead v2 I had to laugh, that little foam thingy stuck to it is next to worthless, all it will do is stop the fan connector scratching the case...

I added some shrink tube to the fan wires on my v1, they were starting to rub thru on the pcb. I also added shrink to the wires as they exit the case, they were looking like they could be damaged too. Pity the BECs die, seems like a decent controller. I do not mind adding the foam cushion and the case clearancing, but running without a bec is a bit much...

BrianG 09.09.2008 02:46 PM

Yeah, that's what adding the foam does; suspend the PCB so the circuits clear the case, even when landing from jumps. Putting foam on the circuits themselves is next to useless IMO.

When I modded my case, I also created a slightly larger hole where the throttle wire exits and wrapped it in heatshrink to provide a little more shielding.

Yeah, having to mod the BEC is a bit on the extreme side of what a user should have to do to get a working controller. But if the choice is between a modded (but working) ESC, and an unmodded one that needs to repaired 4+ times, I'll take option 1. :smile:

CRTIM 09.09.2008 02:47 PM

a little off topic i suppose but... has the poll stats been adjusted at all as failures happen after posting that it is working normally ??...or are those fairly accurate stats ?? thanks

jhautz 09.09.2008 02:49 PM

Nope. I voted working normally and then mine failed later. I'm sure there are others.

BrianG 09.09.2008 02:50 PM

I try to edit the poll results if the post is detailed enough for me to be sure what failed and what didn't, and if it has been counted as one or the other already. You should be able to see a note added in the posts where I edited the poll results.

Aside from that, it's really hard to say how accurate they are. The poll is limited to RCM forum members, and am sure there are a lot of other users out there unaccounted for. The only stats we could trust are those that CC states, and we also have to assume they are true.

CRTIM 09.09.2008 02:53 PM

yeah ,i was afraid of that ....LOL...i have a new MMM v2 and NEU 1515 2.5 still in the box's and not in any hurry anymore to finish my truggy conversion cause i pretty much know it's gonna fail...
....thanks guys for the replies...

BrianG 09.09.2008 02:56 PM

Another CC employee just created a thread to report details about any V2 failures. It would be beneficial to go ahead and install it in your vehicle. If it fails, report all the details requested. Yeah, it may be a PITA to wait, but the more people that have a failure and can provide accurate feedback, the quicker these issues will be resolved.

CRTIM 09.09.2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 210780)
Another CC employee just created a thread to report details about any V2 failures. It would be beneficial to go ahead and install it in your vehicle. If it fails, report all the details requested. Yeah, it may be a PITA to wait, but the more people that have a failure and can provide accurate feedback, the quicker these issues will be resolved.

yeah ...thats a good point . thanks, i will go ahead and finish it up ....thanks guys

hemiblas 09.09.2008 09:31 PM

I had voted that mine was working but it just failed in its second run. Please take away one working correctly and put a failed safely.

GT35R 09.10.2008 02:40 AM

Woo Hoo! Just got my MMM today...

And now its dead. Man, 1 in 100 chance I thought I would be safe :mdr:

TruckBasher 09.10.2008 02:43 AM

Well, I got my 2nd MMM but I havent connected it yet...I think Im just gonna sell it off...my other modded 1 is just sitting here...I modded it so no more warranty :neutral: ...sending it back plus charges might be near a price of a MM...

bdebde 09.10.2008 05:38 PM

Well BrianG take another off of the good list and move to the failed. Mine up and quit today, good thing I have the MGM for back up. I guess I will not try the MMM in there again, tired of swapping ESCs (third time now).

Darion 09.11.2008 12:00 AM

Got my MMM hooked up today with no issues from the ESC. Did have a soldering issue but thats on me. I am running a FLM converted Savage, locked into second gear with no mech brake or reverse module. I am running my MMM as is out of the box, bec and all, with the lipo setting on auto. I have run five 2s 25c 5000 packs through it, just taking it slow before going up to 4s. Temps are good on everything run time was about 15~20 minutes going through an 8xl motor. I'll get to running 4s through it in the next few days but for now all is good. :yes:

Darion

Countryhick 09.11.2008 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Darion (Post 211321)
Got my MMM hooked up today with no issues from the ESC. Did have a soldering issue but thats on me. I am running a FLM converted Savage, locked into second gear with no mech brake or reverse module. I am running my MMM as is out of the box, bec and all, with the lipo setting on auto. I have run five 2s 25c 5000 packs through it, just taking it slow before going up to 4s. Temps are good on everything run time was about 15~20 minutes going through an 8xl motor. I'll get to running 4s through it in the next few days but for now all is good. :yes:

Darion

Be careful going up to 4s.
If you sift through the information provided on the "Monster Max Data Collection" thread you will see that all of the setups that have failed (including mine) have all been 4S or higher. Seems like the onboard BEC (and a lot of the CC UBEC's) just can't hack the increase in voltage.

What would be great is if you put a couple of more Hrs. on your 2S setup and see if it still runs. Then if your brave enough give it a go on 4S-6S.

Just an observation :wink:

tc3_racer_001 09.11.2008 04:33 AM

that would be if your running 3s or less, then a mamba max is more reliable and cheaper...

just putting it out there, but ur right, never seen one fail on 3 or 2s.

Darion 09.11.2008 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Countryhick (Post 211353)
Be careful going up to 4s.
If you sift through the information provided on the "Monster Max Data Collection" thread you will see that all of the setups that have failed (including mine) have all been 4S or higher. Seems like the onboard BEC (and a lot of the CC UBEC's) just can't hack the increase in voltage.

What would be great is if you put a couple of more Hrs. on your 2S setup and see if it still runs. Then if your brave enough give it a go on 4S-6S.

Just an observation :wink:

Ok, so I'll put a few more hours on at 2s, my truck is just for bashing anyway, and report back. Plus, even at 2s it will flip over backwards if I hit the go trigger wide open from a stop, plus it brakes so hard I can flip it on its face at full on brake. :surprised:

Darion

jhautz 09.11.2008 12:33 PM

Not to be a jerk or anything, but who really cares if it will run 2s. There a pile of 2s capable controllers out there already. The point of this controller is for the higher voltage MT and 1/8 applications. Not many of them are going ot be running 2s.

Countryhick 09.11.2008 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 211436)
Not to be a jerk or anything, but who really cares if it will run 2s. There a pile of 2s capable controllers out there already. The point of this controller is for the higher voltage MT and 1/8 applications. Not many of them are going ot be running 2s.


Couldn't agree more!!! :yes:

But if I had the choice between being able to drive my vehicle around, or just looking at a immobilized car, I choose being able to drive. Who knows how long it's going to take castle till they work the bugs out?????

Going to the post office now (sighs) :cry:

Darion 09.11.2008 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 211436)
Not to be a jerk or anything, but who really cares if it will run 2s. There a pile of 2s capable controllers out there already. The point of this controller is for the higher voltage MT and 1/8 applications. Not many of them are going ot be running 2s.

Hey ya, no problem. I bought this controler because it can run, well is rated to run at higher batt cell counts. For now I'm gonna run my 2s packs through it for a few more hours and see how it does, trucks just for kicks anyways. Maybe in the meantime CC will get V3 going with all the kinks worked out and then I can step it up knowing that the next one I get, should this one fail, will be improved. I guess for me its just not that big a deal but I see your point.:wink:

Darion

lincpimp 09.12.2008 01:13 AM

I have this strange feeling that CC will not be making any more MMMs until they have solved the issues...

We may have a while to wait before they do this. Good thing I have dozens of project cars to finish. It is fun to be able to drive them though...

TruckBasher 09.12.2008 01:20 AM

Well it would be best if they stop for now.... Better clear things up...

JeffEmbracedDC 09.12.2008 01:22 AM

[QUOTE=lincpimp;211687]I have this strange feeling that CC will not be making any more MMMs until they have solved the issues...

In such a case, what shall we do? go back to Mamba Maxes with ccbecs, capacitors and fans. Yipee!

-Jeff

jhautz 09.12.2008 01:26 AM

Whatever works. We were running these things without the MMM before it was released. There are new options coming allong all the time. Losi, MGM has new models comming out. DOnt forget the MM, R1Pro and even the quark are all decent options still.


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