Have u tried sending back a HW 150 esc? If not how u know? I change from mmmv3 becoz it keeps breaking down not so much of saving.

hyper 7
15-46 gearin
mmm
14.8v 4s maxamp 6000mah 20c

should be solid [besides the battery]...
what timing do you run?

I never had an MMM, but had an MM in my truggy. Since using it in anything larger than a 1/10 stadium truck would make it out of warranty, going with a HW made no difference to me in terms of warranty as I wouldn't be covered. The 80A HW EZRun costs me 1/2 of what the MM cost, so even if it blew up, I could pick up a second for the same price. I picked up a 150A to try out and that still cost me less than what I got my MM for. Yeah, it sucks if there's no customer service backing the product, but for the price, something had to be compromised. Plus, in this hobby, since most things aren't warrantied past 30 days or some other ridiculously short period, I'm of the mentality that if it breaks, it's on me to replace it. The longest warranty (non-CC) I've been exposed to is Duratrax's plastic part replacement for a year. Then you have other companies that even though there might be a warranty, they just deny it and say it's your fault (Losi). Other than that, I'm out of warranty for most of my RC products in a few months or less.

the stock mmm default setting,the timing is normal!

Hey guys, I'm not saying I wouldnt buy one or that I have had one either. I'm just asking if anyone has actually sent one over, gotton it fixed and had it returned. I dont think anyone will answer that they have. The savings over the MM and MMM is there, but if it smokes in the first week or two, you are out an ESC for a long time, but thats only if you get it back. I know a lot of people run these things and they work well, but as Brian said there is a lot of current running through these things and they are more prone to failure then lets say the speed control powering your radio shack truck that does 3 mph and lasts forever.

If an MM is used within spec Castle will warranty it. The MM 7XL combo in my emaxx pulls the same amps as my MM 7700 combo in my rustler. Geared for about 35mph its a safe setup and Castle will warranty it. They dont have a magic crystal ball that tells them what you run these things in, but they do have ways of knowing if you tried to overamp your esc.

Castle has always had good support and they have probably fixed and/or replaced more than their fair share of faulty esc's due to user error and not product defects. Their one year warranty is unheard of for this type of stuff where a lot of other companies only offer 3 months.

Now adays if u r serious abt racing or hardcore basher u need a stand by esc

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I like castle's after sales service. They even provide non-warrenty repairs at a low price. I am intending to get a MMM + castle neu motor combo.

That aside, being a brushless esc user, I wan to try all those affordable brushless escs out there before even bashing the products. What struck me about the HW escs are that they are really cheap and they are sensored. And if they work flawlessly, then they are a real steal. The issue here right now is if Hobbywing will replace damaged escs due their intrinsic defects. Time will tell.

And alot of MMM went poof even they were ran within specs. Most just burnt up when batteries were connected to them. Not that much of user error I suppose.

If HW wants to be a viable competitor to CC, who has the largest market share, they will need to provide adequate customer service and support. They don't necessarily need to be on par with CC, but at least respond and provide support (replacements, repairs, etc.) within a decent time frame (which for overseas products tends to be 1-2 months).

I hv not gotten a email from them since 1mnth ago. I m begining to lose hope, take it as lose $. I rather buy a mmmv3 or tekin.

Has anyone contacted HW successfully?

I shipped in a bad MMM about 2-3 weeks ago and got a replacement yesterday, you get what you paid for! Take a chance on something like a HW ESC and if it fails you're sitting there going "well, this sucks" and you are left holding the bag. Every Castle controller I've ever had go wrong I didn't fret over because I know they'll take care of me, that security alone is worth the extra money to me.

U never know untill u try, u won't know cc until u try rite?

I didn't buy a CC product until I heard such good reviews about them. I'm a very cautious buyer when it comes to the internet. I'll buy anything out of a store but off the internet it has to be worth the money.

Yes I've been answered by Tracy from after-sales service,email address is on their website.
They should be receiving my faulty esc next week,I will update on how they proceed.

damn I email them but no reply. Ok I try ok

Hobbywing is a member of this forum, have you guys tried to contact him through through here?

When my 80A is still flying to China,I've been playin with a 150A. :lol:
I've just arrived from local track where tested an ezrun 150A with SP 8,5R bl motor on my RC8.
I was pretty amazed how smooth this combo is with sensor wire connected,very good,no cogging at all.
Without sensor it cogs a bit at start and doesnt seem to have the same top end as in sensored mode.
Temps were around 60-65ºC on 4S
For the price of SP motors those are worth a look.

good for u, I gave up on them already

I just had a little HW fire too.

-Brand new Caster Truggy
-HW 80A ESC
-New Turnigy 2x3000 4S
-New 2.4G radio system

Smoke, fire, melted plastic, wiring ETC.
Was waiting for MMM to be returned so was trying
an 80A HW in the meantime. Only changed timing to 7.5deg, punch default.

I can't believe how much damage it has caused on a brand new setup
that has never even flipped or hit anything. I might go back to flying
for a while, only damage is when you crash.

Was it the hw truggy combo from castor? I did lower the timing to 7.5 on my HW80A and the esc blew up. It was working flawlessly for 2 weeks prior to the timing change. I was lucky that the esc din catch fire.

I did not know changing timing will also affect? I tot only zero punch will burn d esc

It will I guess. There were similar complains about lowering the timing.

No I bought the race roller version and bought a HW ESC to run until MMM
returns.
I had read about not setting punch too low and I didn't set timing all the way
to zero to be safe. Seems that was a bad idea.

Smoke is OK, send it back and get a new one.
This bastard melted a new body, I'm not having luck so far sourcing another one.

I cant believe changing the timing on these things makes them blow up, but I think I've read it in a couple other places too not to mess with it. I'm starting to think that its just not easy making one of these controllers and that they are all hit and miss with reliability.

Just leave those power settings to default and those hw esc will not act up.

I've played around with the punch setting with no problems. This is on my HW80 though, if that even makes a difference.

Just being curious, have you tried 0 punch or 0 timing?

Haven't touched the timing. And I usually increase the punch control.

Hey Brian, any recommendations on what to use to clean off the aftermath?

It must be pretty noxious, the steel components have gone rusty brown, even
the black hardware is affected.