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Foxracin 08.23.2009 11:49 AM

If I were you I would wait also. The 1/8 buggy wheels/tires change it altogether.

david lamontagn 08.31.2009 10:21 AM

:whistle:any development:whistle:

R00ST 08.31.2009 12:21 PM

I opened up the holes on the adapter a hair, shimmed them up to the hub and ran half a 3s pack through the crt.5 So far so good!

I will hopefully be done early enough to have some daylight to run today, if not tomorrow. These tires really do help the handling and the slight drop in unsprung weight seems noticable in the suspension action.

justpassedu 08.31.2009 11:27 PM

did you youse a 3/16 drill bit to do so bc thats what flm told me to do , i just have to find the bit laying around somewhere to try. Any pic's yet ill post some as soon as soon as mine are done Thanks

R00ST 08.31.2009 11:42 PM

Ya I think thats what I used. Whatever was pretty much the size it should have been, but im guessing there were just some burrs in there. Could have almost just spun the bit by hand (meaning I did not go to town with the dewalt set on 3 lol).

justpassedu 09.01.2009 11:56 AM

Ok today i drilled mine out using a 3/16th bit and the pin hole also a little bit , they fit pretty snug , there is a gap between them as shown in picture , is this ok ? , also do i need to put something over the pin that goes between the axle and adapter bc they snapped in pretty tightly?
heres pics any suggestions or am i good to throw some tires on and test them.?
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...town/003-6.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...town/004-5.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...town/002-8.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...own/001-10.jpg

justpassedu 09.01.2009 03:04 PM

Well I tested them real quick and the pin fell right out of two of the axles and are lost , i took some pin's from my slash and used those now , they are a tad shorter but the thickness is the same. I also found some little metal things that goa round the pin to hold them on. Put those on and they appear that they can fly off easily but for my test run they held. Initial impressions are there is too much slop and play between where the bearing is and the adapter. The front wheels wobble and the rears do a little bit also. Not sure how i can fix this ?? if anyone know's . Everyone is def. gonna love the increased ride height as i did . It actually felt a little faster also if that sounds weird at all , but the extra ride height was great , i can tell on the track though the wheels and tires or adapters are gonna break something so the play and slop needs a solution. This was only a 5 minute test up and down the street.

R00ST 09.01.2009 04:53 PM

Ya you def need to shim up the adapters so there is no slop!

justpassedu 09.01.2009 08:28 PM

what can i use as shims between there , any ideas?

neweuser 09.01.2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justpassedu (Post 317552)
It actually felt a little faster also if that sounds weird at all ,

If they are a taller tire, your pick up will be slower but top end will be more speed...sorry, cant help you with the shims...

david lamontagn 09.01.2009 10:48 PM

justpassedu, which CVD do you have on your crt.5??? Look like to be shinny???

R00ST 09.01.2009 11:41 PM

Pretty sure Justpassedu you has the mini STE which would explain the cvd color. The truck does look similar to the .5 with the body on though.

And as far as what to run for shims...I used shims lol. If you have a local RC shop go look at their shim's (not even sure what material most of them are... almost like a teflon/delron flexible plastic material). Usually they come in all different thicknesses and diameters. I just have a TON of rc stuff laying around so I dug though my box o junk and found some that worked.

That...or if you have an O-ring kit or know someone who does. If you can find an o-ring that is small enough to go around the axle and the thickness is not too thick you can run that.

justpassedu 09.02.2009 08:12 AM

It is a hyper ste , as far as shims i would prob need to put a bunch of them between that gap , theres allot of play , i could prob fit a bearing between there. anypics to help maybe Thanks guys

R00ST 09.02.2009 07:05 PM

Yes a bearing would probably work very well. I would check your local hobby store and see if they have something hopefully the same (or darn close) size to the axle diameter, and about 1.5-2mm thick.

The problem is pretty easy to fix on Jamie's end, just drill the axle holes further up the adapter.

Since it looks like the STE has a much larger gap depending on which truck he decides to market the adapters for, he can drill them for one truck and include shims so the opposite truck can run these out of the box as well.

justpassedu 09.02.2009 07:32 PM

what i have done so far today is add two washers in the front between the gap and there is no play and one in the rear witch still has some play , i will need to add one more in the rear if i can find a few laying around. I also just zip tied around the adapter where the pins go through the axle so they do not fall out. Not sure how this will hold up in the long run but a quick test run and it was running pretty good. The extra ground clearance is great , i just do not want it to break anything when i am out running it. Drilling the pin whole further back is def. a great idea. Do you guys think i will run into any problem's with the way i have went about this? i will try and get some pic's up as soon as i have a chance

R00ST 09.02.2009 10:56 PM

Zip ties should be alright but an O-ring would be your best bet. I Have a cheap o-ring kit from ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/GASKET-407-PC-RU...d=p3286.c0.m14 that works very well.

I used a properly sized o-ring to fit around the axle pin to keep it from popping out. The little cir-clip things included with the adapters DO work but they are a serious pain to install. I Find that the o-ring supplies sufficient pressure to keep the pin in and are easy to pop on/off.

The washer should be fine. Just make sure its not TOO tight or you will have driveline drag which will heat up your electronics really quick. Maybe even run to your local hardware store to see if they have what you need.

I too really like the extra ground clearance and the width of the 1/8 buggy tires is about perfect (good traction but easy enough to slide around). Plus the super low profile of 1/8 buggy tires is a tremendous increase in handling. No more sidewall flex!

R00ST 09.05.2009 11:15 AM

I found two single small (I mean, tiny) o-rings in my parts box. These were absolutely PERFECTLY sized to take up the slack on the crt.5. The shims are hard to tune the gap.

Hopefully I can find more o-rings like this or find another solution that is readily available that will fill the gap.

ta_man 09.06.2009 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R00ST (Post 317590)
Ya you def need to shim up the adapters so there is no slop!

Why don't they just make them so there is no slop (at least no slop within the tolerances of the axle crosspin location)?

david lamontagn 09.06.2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 318626)
Why don't they just make them so there is no slop (at least no slop within the tolerances of the axle crosspin location)?

Have you ever find an aftermarket part who fit tight the first time
:lol:

R00ST 09.08.2009 07:50 PM

Well its to be as expected seeing as how these are not the final productions units.

Hopefully he takes our advice and drills the pin hole about .5mm or so back, and includes o-rings instead of those metal snap rings he included.

We shall see!

I got a full 3s pack in today on some partially bald proline badlands 1/8 tires and realized I need to adjust the fluid in the center diff for sure. Probably bump up the f/r by 1k as well. This truck should have come from the factory with 1/8 tires on it!

david lamontagn 09.08.2009 10:52 PM

Hey ROOST, is Jamies tell you when he expect to put it available for all of us??????

And do you think this will be available on RcMonster store?

R00ST 09.08.2009 11:02 PM

I will ask him and let you know when he responds.

Mike

david lamontagn 09.08.2009 11:08 PM

OK thank you very much:wink:

david lamontagn 09.09.2009 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justpassedu (Post 317515)
Ok today i drilled mine out using a 3/16th bit and the pin hole also a little bit , they fit pretty snug , there is a gap between them as shown in picture , is this ok ? , also do i need to put something over the pin that goes between the axle and adapter bc they snapped in pretty tightly?
heres pics any suggestions or am i good to throw some tires on and test them.?
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...town/003-6.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...town/004-5.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...town/002-8.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...own/001-10.jpg

I look at this pics, and i can't understand why you have this gap between the axle pin and bearing:neutral:
On my crt.5, the axle pin hole is flush to the bearing face.
If i had to mount this adapter on my truck, it would not have any gap between the adapter and bearing:oh:

Maybe all truck is not the same:neutral: But if FLM produce this adapter with the pin hole .5mm or 1mm farther, i'll never be able to mount it on my truck.

So if you want to send me yours, tell me how much you want for it, i'll pay you by paypal, and install it on my truck:yes:

RC-Monster Mike 09.09.2009 10:28 AM

The truck in the pictures isn't a crt.5 - it is a mini hyper(hence the difference).

david lamontagn 09.09.2009 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 319438)
The truck in the pictures isn't a crt.5 - it is a mini hyper(hence the difference).


OK Mike, but i think that ROOST have this gap too, and he have the crt.5, right:neutral:

Hey Mike, have you somes input from Jamies about this adapter??? Do you think to cary it in stock when this adapter will be available?

RC-Monster Mike 09.09.2009 10:52 AM

I think Roost's gap was much smaller. When the adapters are ready and available, I will carry them for sure - personally, I think the 1" offset is too much, though. My suggestion to Jamie is to use the shorter of the Slash adapter as the starting point to minimize the tsress on the axles/small bearings in the hub.

david lamontagn 09.09.2009 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 319445)
I think Roost's gap was much smaller. When the adapters are ready and available, I will carry them for sure - personally, I think the 1" offset is too much, though. My suggestion to Jamie is to use the shorter of the Slash adapter as the starting point to minimize the tsress on the axles/small bearings in the hub.

Yep?? thant exactly what i think about the offset.

Hope that the final product will have little less offset.:yes:

justpassedu 10.26.2009 10:19 AM

if anyone would like my adapters and mohawk 17mm buggy tires id be willing to get rid of them for $55 shipped , selling my car soon and dont need them , email me at wurydaz@aol.com

jhautz 10.26.2009 02:45 PM

There were some CRT.5 17mm adapters on display in the FLM/RCM booth at iHobby this weekend. I believe Jamie and Mike said they would be a vailable to purchase in a week or 2. Hopefully one of them chimes in with a more specific time frame.

The adapters looked sweet. I'm grabbing a set as soon as they are available.


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