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RC-Monster Mike 02.19.2010 01:52 PM

Mechanical brakes are not needed imo. A proper setup will perform as good with less complication - the center diff will bias the braking just as it does the acceleration. If nitro could brake the whole diff rather than each half of it, they likely wouldn't use mechanical brakes either. :)

Moller123456 ! 02.19.2010 06:35 PM

Heeeeeeey mike:D
Since you have the time to reply, then you must be finished? :D Or am i dreaming? :lol:

RC-Monster Mike 02.19.2010 08:24 PM

Yes, you are dreaming - I occasionally come up from the work dungeon to eat, sleep and check the forums, though. If I only came on the net when all my planned projects were done, I would never be around! That said, this is a cool little truck and it won't be long before the conversion kit is done. :)

BrianG 02.19.2010 08:26 PM

lol, as long as your definition of "soon" isn't close to the definition Castle used when they released the MMM. :smile:

Moller123456 ! 02.19.2010 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 350834)
Yes, you are dreaming - I occasionally come up from the work dungeon to eat, sleep and check the forums, though. If I only came on the net when all my planned projects were done, I would never be around! That said, this is a cool little truck and it won't be long before the conversion kit is done. :)

Well thats fair it is 1:26AM atm, so i should be dreaming...
When you say "Won't be long" Thats long for me XD :rofl:
Take your time:) Its still bloody snowing in Denmark, so i cant really go bashing anyway:(

FG101C 02.20.2010 03:44 PM

I recieved mine Thursday and have already pulled the engine and electronics. Today I pulled the center diff and filled it with 5k. While I was at it I tried a Losi plastic 45 tooth spur but it does not fit. Wondering what the pitch of the spur really is, Mod 1 seems like it may work but it's not perfect, Mod .8 does not fit very well either. I don't have any 32 or 48 pitch gears to try, it's almost as if it's Mod .9, somewhere between 1 and .8.

Lol, just sold the radio for $180.00 in about fifteen minutes, now if I can get as lucky as BrianG on the engine the roller will be free.

Nard Cox 02.21.2010 05:19 AM

@ fg101c:

Quote:

Originally Posted by briang (Post 346772)
a shot showing the differences in pitch between mod1.0 and 32p/mod0.8:

http://scriptasylum.com/forumpics/losi_ten_4.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by briang (Post 346613)
i just did more playing around with the center diff spur. It measures exactly 44.44mm in diameter, and has 48 teeth. That does not match either mod1 nor 32p, but is somewhere in between. After doing a little calculation, the pitch is actually 28.578p, or mod 0.889. I knew it didn't look right.!both 32p and mod1 gears roll somewhat smoothly without skipping, but don't mesh perfectly.

Btw, the formula for finding the pitch is:

Pitch = (tooth_count+2) / (gear_diameter/25.4)

module = 25.4/pitch

so, losi decided to really do some weird stuff here with the gears. The easiest thing to do would be to convert to mod1 or 32p. But as i said, the diff has to be flipped around, which means the diff has to be raised to clear the chassis. To minimize the amount of height increase of the cd, a revo 40t spur could be used, which is 42mm in diameter. This knocks off 1mm from the radius of the stock spur, which means it will fit without raising the cd much. And the 40t spur with a 12t pinion, along with the 4.41" tires, creates a speed of 30mph@30k rpm. Yeah, a little slow for some, but increasing the pinion to 14t creates a 35mph speed while not gearing up too high. And/or get a motor/voltage combo to get 35k rpm and the 12t pinion gets you 35mph. 14t would get you a little over 40mph.


BrianG 02.21.2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 350672)
You need a new avatar now... A paint can with a circle/slash over it. LOL

Happy now? See new avatar (wait a bit...)

jhautz 02.22.2010 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 351291)
Happy now? See new avatar (wait a bit...)

LOL Classic! :rofl:

Moller123456 ! 02.22.2010 12:16 PM

Hahah brian XD:rofl:

Moller123456 ! 02.22.2010 02:52 PM

So back to the ten-t
Since im sick /i'll i have nothing to do:-P So i was google'ing around the web to find spur gears that fits the ten-t (without the STUPID unknown pitch) so found the Losi 8-ight spur. http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...pur-Gear-8E-20
Can any one of you tell me if it fits or not? :) as far as i know the 8-ight 's use mod.1

BrianG 02.22.2010 03:45 PM

Well, as Mike has my truck at the moment, I sure can't say. That spur is for the 8ight-E, and I have no idea if it uses the same silly Mod0.9 pitch, which doesn't help when shopping for a pinion. I would much rather have a Mod1.0 or a 32p/Mod0.8 gear. A 32p/Mod0.8 setup would give you more gearing options since there are more teeth to work with. As far as I know, Mike is still working on a 32p setup.

Moller123456 ! 02.22.2010 03:57 PM

I found out that it is mod 1 :) So now the only thing left is: Does it fit:P...
since the tent (ten-t) doesnt have a gear cover i would go for mod 1 :) I used it on my brushless slayer, and i only destroyed 1 spur gear i about 2 months, and that doesnt have have a gear cover eighter. i know the difference between Mod 1 and 32p / mod 0.8 isnt big, but i have had alot of stones stuck in my 32P spur gears...
Soooo... Does anyone have a losi 8-ight E ?:D

hootie7159 02.23.2010 02:50 AM

1 Attachment(s)
check this out...ten-t with buggy tires....looks pretty sick!...but then, why not buy a buggy?...lol....it does look cool though....

Attachment 8572

Nard Cox 02.23.2010 04:07 AM

That looks great!

Moller123456 ! 02.23.2010 07:59 AM

That does look good:D I was thinking that it would look soooo stupid, but Nope:P

nitrostarter 02.23.2010 08:04 AM

Hmm, I wonder what 17mm adaptors he is using?

That Ten-T looks like a track killer!

Moller123456 ! 02.23.2010 08:08 AM

As i wrote:
"After some "re-search" i found ot that HPI 17mm hex kit fits the tent (ten-t) # 86925
I havent tried it, but from the specs it should fit:)
I was hoping to use 2.2" wheels on it, but im pretty sure they wont fit:( unless you have about 50mm offset:-P" It was in post 67 ( i think:P)
But his adaptors do look different...

FG101C 02.23.2010 12:07 PM

The wheel base is good for a short course body, with the stock tires it's too wide but with those tires it looks like it would work.

hootie7159 02.23.2010 01:04 PM

here's a link to what that guy did to get buggy wheels on his ten-t

http://forum.losi.com/showthread.php?t=1784

BrianG 02.23.2010 01:10 PM

FYI: Mike is making 17mm adaptors for this while he makes the conversion for me. I personally would not want to drill the stub axle to fit the 3mm pin since it could introduce a weak point, but might be ok as this isn't a heavy vehicle.

I have some AK truggy premount wheels/tires I want to try on this when I get it. They are a little narrower than typical truggy tires, but wider than buggy tires; somewhere in between. But because of the larger diameter, it will depend on what Mike comes up with for the gear system for how low I can gear down though. Buggy tires look sweet, but I wonder if truggy tires would simply be too big. We'll see...

Moller123456 ! 02.23.2010 01:17 PM

About the SC body. from the outside of the hex the the outside the other hex (measured in the front) its 280mm... and the proline SC bodies i checked they are 240mm -.-
im pretty sure i'll use HPI Hex the pin diameter is 2.5mm as the stock pins, and buggy tires and wheels:)
Those who are going to convert the ten-t: What Brushless are you going to use?:)

BrianG 02.23.2010 01:23 PM

Depending on what Mike charges for the conversion, I'll either go with a MMPro and Medusa 36-80-2000 on 4s (overkill I know, but I have these laying around), or get a Tekin RX8 system with Tekin 1900kv buggy motor. A neu 1509 would probably work VERY well in this truck as long as lighter packs are used to keep weight down.

Powerplant depends what you want to do with it though. Racers are gonna want something with reasonable speed (30-35mph), controllable torque, and good runtime. Pure bashers, like me, are gonna want something a little more aggressive.

Moller123456 ! 02.23.2010 01:30 PM

Sounds good:)
I have ordered:
3 x 4s 5000Mah 25C Flightmax Lipo's
KD36-60 3000Kv Brushless motor
150A Hobbyking Esc


Cancled the Xerun combo, as some of you prob. know i HATE waiting XD

FG101C 02.23.2010 04:14 PM

Because I have the gear and am not using it I plan on running a Neu 1509 3300kv with a MM on 3s. Should be good hopefully I can get it geared so it dosen't thermal the esc.

Moller123456 ! 02.25.2010 10:10 AM

So now its 3 weeks since mike said it would take 2-3 Weeks for him to make it :P Sooo... PLEASE mike get finished:D :lol:

nitrostarter 02.25.2010 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moller123456 ! (Post 351968)
So now its 3 weeks since mike said it would take 2-3 Weeks for him to make it :P Sooo... PLEASE mike get finished:D :lol:

:whip:
We understand your excitement, but give the man time. His work will be much appreciated when its finished. :lol:

Moller123456 ! 02.25.2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 351981)
:whip:
We understand your excitement, but give the man time. His work will be much appreciated when its finished. :lol:

Yeah i know;) its mostly because i cant wait to see what he comes up with:-P
AND cause im an rcholic -.- cant live without rchol

gixxer 02.25.2010 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hootie7159 (Post 351553)
check this out...ten-t with buggy tires....looks pretty sick!...but then, why not buy a buggy?...lol....it does look cool though....

Attachment 8572

I think that looks great.

BrianG 02.25.2010 01:49 PM

Here's a quick graphic edit of some 8th scale truggy tires on the Ten-T. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go with that unless they rub when turning...

http://scriptasylum.com/forumpics/losi_ten_7.jpg

Moller123456 ! 02.25.2010 01:51 PM

Looks cool, but im pretty sure they will rub aganist the body:/

FG101C 02.27.2010 05:30 PM

Seetness.

Ten-T shipped: $409.00
DX3S sold: $180.00
Engine and r.o.s.s. sold: $210.00
Total shipping and fees: $38.00

Sweet roller for: $57.00 :yipi:

Moller123456 ! 02.27.2010 05:40 PM

Nice job man:D
Now we just need to wait for the conversion:(

gixxer 02.28.2010 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FG101C (Post 352403)
Seetness.

Ten-T shipped: $409.00
DX3S sold: $180.00
Engine and r.o.s.s. sold: $210.00
Total shipping and fees: $38.00

Sweet roller for: $57.00 :yipi:


Thats awesome. So who sells the Ten-T that cheap anyways? Might have to get one of these.

FG101C 02.28.2010 01:21 AM

Losipartshouse with a $25.00 coupon.

gixxer 02.28.2010 09:45 AM

well I did a little looking around. ultimatehobbies has them (on order) but $405 with free shipping no coupon. really have to stop looking cause if i do anymore i will end up with another car.

marzac2 02.28.2010 10:39 PM

@ gixxer; Sounds like you've already been bitten.
Let us know when you finally break down and get it!

Also: guys that already have it (Brian). How hard would it be to convert it to an 1/8th scale buggy? I'm talking dimensions here. If you put buggy wheels on it, is it very close to being the same wheelbase/length as an 8ight or 8ight 2.0?

Thanks.

jhautz 03.01.2010 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marzac2 (Post 352581)
@ gixxer; Sounds like you've already been bitten.
Let us know when you finally break down and get it!

Also: guys that already have it (Brian). How hard would it be to convert it to an 1/8th scale buggy? I'm talking dimensions here. If you put buggy wheels on it, is it very close to being the same wheelbase/length as an 8ight or 8ight 2.0?

Thanks.


Ummm... Maybe a dumb question but.... If you want a 1/8 buggy why not just get one rather than trying to make one from a truck that isnt that and you dont have? Not trying to be a smart ass, but Im not following the logic.

BrianG 03.01.2010 12:12 AM

Probably the same reason why some people turn a Slash into a "backslash". Other than that, this vehicle is pretty light, so it would make a lightweight 8th scale buggy. And, people seem to be coming out pretty close to a "free" roller once the engine and radio are sold off.

marzac2 03.02.2010 06:08 AM

Thanks Brian.

So are the dimensions off by more than 1/2 inch both ways?

Jhautz:
It is for having the ultimate lightweight 1/8th. Not saying it would work better, but Losi reports that the Ten-T was sometimes faster around the track than an 1/8th buggy in their testing.

I already own a few Losi 1/8 buggies, but I am looking for a change in the lighter direction.


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