You forgot the tires. I don't have to look for grp's or ipanema anymore for my cars. I'll just buy the traxxas ones for my speed runners.

Seemingly not- the esc relays the telemetry data to the rx ( via castle link live ), then the traxxas link software just displays this data on the iPoo. The tx settings can be adjusted & saved on the iPoo, but you don't have direct control over the esc settings from your radio or iPoo- you still need the castlelink/ fieldlink & a PC to make changes to throttle, brakes, timing etc etc.

That's the way I understand it to be anyway.

more like 350 for elect and 150 for car and 500-600 - sallery in profit for retailers and traxxas.
the market will decide and if there is enough fuss about it people will buy, as im sure they will.

i still think this car is a bit expensive for what you get, the same with slash.

We've hit 100mph+ in our parking lot. It's tough, but doable in a standard parking lot.

LOL, that's pretty good.

Oh no no no, Castle Link Live allows for on-the-fly settings changes!!

:party::party::party:

i love you:surprised:




take that novak:whip:

ty texas and linc

i was really geting sick of all the crying about this car, personaly i have an iphone and i love it, (its the only apple i have owned other than an i pod)
the fact that they set it up this way is a game changer in the industry, castle link live is crazy, im thrilled to see something like this come out, now everyone else is going to have to play catchup to traxxas and castle, it may breath new life into an industry that has been slowly dieing off again

just from that stand point i have decided to buy one

but i do wonder if the batterys will hold the car back, oh well they may just have to go in my slash lol, it doesnt hurt my feelings to have to pick up good batterys.

Aww, I love you too! :love:

The diffuser and the motor cooling slot are very nice design implements as far as the chassis, that's for sure. I keep going back and forth on this thing, it sounds like it's going to be far too expensive but if you can get one without the lipos and the extra nonsense that'd be OK. Surely someone at my LHS has an iPoS to remove the electronic nanny from the ESC. I don't think of it on the same level as the Revo, it's not that much of a game-changer. All-in-all it is definitely an accomplishment, but I'm not really sold on it.

For me, the make-or-break point will be the handling. My Hyper 7 TQ is set up for street use and is no slouch, but if all the work they put into the XO-1 pays off when you turn the wheel it could be worth selling my Hyper for it. The ride height of the XO-1 is a concern for me, most of those low-slung cars don't do very well unless you have a perfect surface to run it on. I loved my 3.3-powered Nitro 4-Tec but when you hit a crack or any imperfection in the surface it would spin out or go flying and I gouged the crap out of the chassis. Granted this was before our downtown parking garage was built and that is just an awesome place to take our onroaders, but everywhere else needs something with a little clearance and some give to the suspension (hence the Hyper).

Patrick: You've driven one, are you allowed to comment on how it handles? Both going around corners at bonkers speeds and real-world driveability?

I am sold on this now! $800 or so for the car and another 100 bucks for an older i touch or iphone. I do think I will pick up some 5k 40c lipos, but that is less than 100 bucks too. Almost every big rc I have done has cost around a grand if you factor in the batts and radio gear.

That on the fly settings is pretty gangster. Now I want one as well.

Damn, it just keeps getting better.

The cool thing is that all of this technology will not just stay on this car, we will get it everywhere.............

I don't know why everybody hates on the iPhone/ipods I've had both iphones and androids. Ive had an iPhones for 3yrs and and Android phone for a year they both have positives and negatives but I always go back to my iPhone because it just works! Just give one a try u wont regret it! :)

Patrick, How are the sensors setup? I'm not asking for company secrets, Just if they are internal or external and if the esc reads them or the radio.

Where's the love for beta testers :)

PS Dont know why I'm saying this but you should really get the software guys to imbed the png's inside the dBase III file...

Good point about rotational force Linc, I hadn't considered that.

Semi makes a good point about it being a game changer in the industry.

Big brother watching us r/c is funny bruce.

Patrick- I can't thank you enough for participating in the Rc-M forums.

or What 99% of 1:1 clutches have...

clutches have disks, I've never seen a clutch with rubber pucks. I think you should take a clutch apart and revisit this comment. The LST slipper is much like a 1:1 clutch, and nothing like the cush drive.

I like to watch things traveling at high speed come apart violently, the soon to come YouTube videos should be entertaining.

Being able to change esc settings on the fly makes me all warm inside, this tech is pretty dam nice.

The spring thingies. He didn't mean it's rubber, but the idea is the same.

http://www.magal.co.uk/images/product/clutchLarge1.jpg

Many 1:1 street bikes have Cush drive rear wheels.

I keep looking and it get's more and more appealing to me.

I think the most appealing part is the body and aerodynamic management that is incorporated in this. That is the thing that always got old when first I started doing speed runs with my modified fastlane/pede then with the erevo. It's get's really tricky to manage the airflow at these high speeds and having that done for you correctly off the bat is an awesome thing.

I like tinkering and all but aerodynamics by trial and error is a tough thing. It's much more complicated than most would think at face value. There were things I did with the pede which I thought would help that ended up having the opposite effect I intended.

Patrick, I want to +2 what Harold(paralyzed) said about your participation here, it is much appreciated and valued. I continuously point people here simply because of that and when posting information on other sites I always point them to the fact you said it here. Basically referencing my quotes to give proper credit and to show people I am not just talking out of my rear like many on forums like to do.

Both. The radio can talk with the ESC directly through Castle Link Live, and get on-the-fly data and setup information and change ESC settings.

But the receiver can also talk to external stand-alone sensors as well.

I see. I was thinking 1:1 motorcycle clutch, not auto

I've seen those and was thinking the traxxas cush drive was more like a bike's rear wheel.

Guys i got an idea for those who intend on buying the XO-1..........swap out the speed controller and the raido/receiver baddabing 100mph instantly with no iphone/ipod app or governer!!!!I myself would run the mamba xl in this to by pass the traxxas's apple scheme i would also advance the timing and 60c or 65c batts!

Then it sounds like a tx and rx swap will unlock the carnage without a iPhone. How would the esc know the mph with only internal sensors?

Hey Guys,

Request from tech support -- PLEASE STOP calling and asking how to get an ESC with BSC011s...

As I said earlier, there's no way to tell from the outside what FETs are in the ESC.

The only way to get a guarantee of the getting an MMM with BSC011s is to buy a Traxxas XO-1.


Right now, the BSC011 is "standard" for a Mamba Monster, but the 4901 is still a suitable sub, because we can't get enough of the BSC011 to meet production for all Mamba Monsters.

Thanx!

But then you will loose the "on the fly" data\speed logging and setting change.

For that price of this car you are really paying alot\premium price for that technology, so its just stupid to swap it out..

I can't believe people are actually bothering you guys with that kind of question! It's not like the new FETs are that much better. People must thing the new FETs make the MMM 120% efficient. :smile:

Conversely, people will probably pay quite a bit for just the ESC/radio combo if you do part it out, so it's really not a big deal IMO.

How many do you need to keep the porduction line going?

i was just saying for conversation what i would do im not buying one ever ever ever ever ever because i personally long ago cracked 100mph in a dirt oval e 36/25 gearing.My personal fastest speed run was 118mph.IM currently working on a neu 1521 2900kv 6s set up we have theoretically geared it for 129mph it will probally run better on 5s though.

Omg really lol! Come on fess up who was it? :diablo:

I was thinking about this earlier, about what a part out would be worth on eBay.

At first I bet that ESC would bring $200ish, and probably settle to $120-150 depending on who wants it and how badly. The motor is a tweaked version of the old 1717 so I'd personally give $200+ for it. Surely the Rx/Tx will be worth something since they're most-likely going to introduce that technology into more vehicles over the coming months, right? Each lipo should fetch $30-$50, then you've still got whatever else I haven't thought of plus the roller. Rollers would probably start out at $300-$400 then settle down to $200-$250 once enough of them hit the market.

im betting your prices are pretty low, i guess we will see, im betting rollers go for 500ish for the first few months and radio's will be over $100

I think you're right, I was keeping it pretty conservative but there's surely money to be made parting them out. At least for the first 3-6 months.

When will these be released?

Release date is set for Dec. 30th (great timing for the holidays, dontchya think? :lol:) but even if you pre-order I wouldn't expect to get one until late Jan. at the earliest. If I can bring myself to buy one it won't be until at least the Spring/Summer when they're easier to come by, but that much $ would get me some nice upgrades for my Mustang--which is money better spent IMO :party:

I figured I would try for one in the early summer.