that sounds good i may have to try it

At this point, I'm wondering if the MT version is going to be all that much different from the R1 pro. Perhaps the only real difference will have to do with the bec. My LHS told me that they'd have the R1s in soon and I ordered one and then realized that the MT version was the one that I wanted, so I cancelled the order. I hope he ordered a couple anyway. I'll have to go by and see. I'm gonna go check out the specs on the R1 again.

If they are saying that it will do 5S, I'm wondering what it will really handle. LOL.


I checked out the site, but I didn't see any published specs, like how much current it can handle. Anyone know?

I dont know. It would be nice if it would handle higher but right now I will be happy if I can have 5s and not need a fan. I currently dont have one on my mm but i know it will need it in the summer.

OK guys, I just got off of the phone with Tekin. I called to ask about the R1 pro, and I was told that there were revisions to the manual and those revisions are going to include reducing the max voltage to 3S lipo. Their testing indicated that the R1 pro is not reliable at 5S and 4S was questionable. This was not due to the bec, but the controller section itself.

I thought that we were having a pretty frank conversation, and he seemed to be pretty open about the limitations of the R1 Pro and in short the bottom line was, don't run the R1 on 5S.

He did say that the R1MT would be out soon, although he wouldn't elaborate.

From what I gather, the R1MT isn't going to be any different then the R1PRO except for possibly a heatsink:

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...8750#post98750

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...8651#post98651

Well, after what I was told on the phone, I hope that there are a couple more differences between the pro and the MT.

Earlier in the thread the Prez said the MT would double the # of Fets, so current should double I would guess. What the current rating of the R1pro is IDK, I don't see it on the website under specs (would be useful info... :007: ) Maybe its buried somewhere, but I don't care enough to go digging now.

Would a safe guess be 100A? Assume then the MT will be 200A?

I would not be suprised if CC and Tekin are planning to use the same Fets, there are only so many component manufacturers, and these are particularly well suited to the app....

Prez said they are rated as 30V, and with the explaination of the motor braking voltage spikes, I doubt it would be much higher. However, I do think that if one were to use manual brakes, its quite possible that either the CC or Tekin esc would run 6S safely. I think the info on the Fets also explains why the MM can run 5S well.

Hell it might even be possible to run the MM @ 6S using man brakes and not too hot of a motor (say on a 1/10 scale) and not fry the esc. It would make sense that the MM and MMM would use the same fets from a business perspective. What we'd end up buying is bigger Amp capacity and heat dissipation, not necc higher voltage capacity with the larger ESCs.

I had gotten the 120A number from the pdf manual on Tekin's site. When I saw that, in conjunction with the 5S claim, I started to get excited. I then called Tekin and had my bubble burst.

I'm starting to wish that I had an interest in 1/10th scale.

you could always do the crt.5. 3s would be plenty in that.

Since some of you haven't read what all TeamTekin has posted, here's some excerpts that should lay some questions to rest:

In reference to the Mamba Max FET datasheet BrianG posted:
Again in reference to comparing their FET's to the MM FET's:
Referencing the number of FET's and heatsinking:
In reference to the BEC:
In reference to 6S operation:

That's a really nice compilation of all the important points!

Great post Boy..

I thought about compiling since some of us apear to be terrible readers.. :p

Missed that little gem RE: Fet specs. :) Thanks to Brian for forcing the hand! Does that suggest the Pro ESC could be rated for 200A+ then (depending on the other components)?

Would explain the price diff on the R1 pro vs MM. Makes you wonder what the Pro could do itself, as the doubling of the Fets from the r1 to the Pro is suggested to be enough for the MT. Again, pushing 6S seems very possible on man brakes. Theoretically perhaps on the MM if the current could be kept low enough, as discounting other components like caps (ie not in real world in other words. I'll have to flip back to the MM fet thread on this.)

Its also going to be interesting to see how the market breaks for the ESCs. CC is aiming for the low end, while the Tekin will be higher end. Its going to be hard competition vs a low cost competitor, so long as both are going to be capable enough. Look @ walmart for example, low cost but lower quality (not that I would call the MM low quality in and absolute sense.)

TeamTekin is merely aiming for winning REAL races and Castle Creations wants to satisfy the basher a bit more than the racer.

What I really liked about tekin is that they said many times that they want to develop an esc and then push it to the limits, find a weak spot, modify it, push the thing to the limits again, find the weakest point again, modify it again and blah, blah,blah.....

They're very comparable to UE ( seeking absolute perfection, but it costs lots of money) and FLM ( building super tough parts for humble prices to satisfy the general RCers).

Maybe it was the problem of 5s and hi amps.
It may survive better with 5s on a lower amp motor.

You can't have it all, either compromise or pay the piper. I personally wouldn't mind paying the money, if it delivers everything we want

In my discussion with the guy at Tekin, all was looking ok, until i brought up the 120A spec from the pdf manual. That's when he said that they had revised the specs, but hadn't posted them yet. They are still working on it though. Unless I misunderstood him, he said that the R1 pro was not shipping yet, as they are still working bugs out.

Towerhobbies has them listed as "order pending".
It's like the president actually said in another forum that he won't release the esc until he makes sure that it's going to deliver what it is rated for.

any of you guys got more news?
thanks, mike.

http://www.teamtekin.com/manuals/R1Manual.pdf the manual is now online, I think that means we are getting close. :)

That's the manual that I quoted specs from when I called Tekin. I don't know how long it's been there, but at least since the day I posted last in this thread.

I'm waiting for the MT version.

Anyone notice that the R1Pro says it's rated for 5s lipo? I thought they said only the MT would get up to 5s.

The prez, said it would do 5s if you disabled the bec.

does the r1pro work with neu motor?

It should, the vid they show was a 6 pole, according the the prez

My MM conbtroller works flawless with a 6pole inrunner too.

i know a mamba max works with a plettenberg but not too well with a neu.
i hope the r1's run well with a neu.

Is anyone considering getting one of the R1Pros and experiment on a Revo/1/8th scale? *hint hint*

Specs as written make it comparable to the Q125 (5S, 120A) but priced between it and the MM.

I thinking (hoping) this may work out as a "Super-MM" until the MTs or MMMs come out. If it can run Neus smoothly, they may have a real winner.

If you are considering running the R1 Pro, I'd suggest that you give the guys at Tekin a call. They were pretty forthcoming with the information. I called them because I was thinking the same thing when I read the specs on the R1 Pro. I was told that those specs in the manual were going to be revised.

I'll surely, God's willing, use the R1 PRO in my touring car, but not in a MT.

'Fraid I'm cashed out ATM, but I'd like someone else to try it. :)

Which way are they revising the specs? Got the impression that the Pro is going to be one stout little ESC.

Finnster, that was the impression that I got. I actually went to my LHS and put two of them on order, just because of the specs published in the manual. Afterwards, I called Tekin to ask them some questions and the short of it was that the R1Pro doesn't live up to the specs and that they would be revising the specs before the release of the ESC. I cancelled my order.

I'm not saying that what they acutally release won't be all that we are hoping for. All I am saying is that Tekin told me that the R1Pro, as it is now, will not do what I want it too. It won't take 125A constant and it won't take 5S lipo. I don't know what form they are shooting for as a release candidate.

I have to admit that when I called them it kind of threw me off when the guy told me that the R1Pro wouldn't do for me. I didn't ask some of the specific questions that I should have. Maybe someone else should give them a call and see what they say.

i was kinda wanting a r1pro for my truggy.
but if it doesnt do the 200amps they said first and 4~5s lipo i wont be buying it. i'll hang on a while to see how they really end up being.
if not as good spec as a quark monster pro, i will get the quark.

so the r1pro does 120amps and 5s lipo?

No. The R1Pro is rated and covered under warranty up to 3s, anything above that needs a rx pack as the BEC won't handle it.

I think he meant with the BEC disabled...

And welcome to the forums!

Hi Ty - Welcome aboard. Are you a Tekin rep/employee? It'll be nice to have you around if you decide to hang with us.

Welcome to the forums.

Most of us here are aware of the voltage limitations of internal becs and run external becs or battery packs. Our largest area of interest with regard to the new R1 Pro is it's ability to run on higher voltage (5S or 6S lipo) and handle current (up to or over 125A).

My initial plan for the R1 Pro was going to be to put it into an 1/8th scale truck. I understand that this would be running the esc out of spec and wouldn't be covered by warranty. Warranty issues aside, what is the R1 Pro capable of in real world applications? What is the actual current limit? What is the actual voltage limit?

My questions exactly. If you can answer them as best you could, that would be awesome.

Welcome to the forums.

I know this is off topic but could the way the neu motor is wired be the problem for the MM? I mean i see a lot of half winds being used, sorry i can'i remember the configurings. I was thinking that since novak has the half winds and MM can't do them too well either, I was thinking that could be where the problem lies. I have not seen anyone run a whole wind yetand was wondering if someone has ( if they did and got the same problem, I'll stand corrected)