Have you tried reducing the punch control in combination w/high start power?

Sounds like you have a really nice ESC man. I seriously need something like that for my dragster.

I have the punch control at 40%. The Mamba is good, I'm not complaining at all, but I have found something better, I hate to say it. The start up on this controller is amazing. The only down side is the fan which only works with 2S lipos from the connector in the ESC, but you can hook it up to the third channel or a separate BEC. I was told the BEC in the ESC only works with 2S lipos as well, but I had it going with 3S for a few minutes and it worked fine. I'm still waiting for an answer from the folks who made it to see if they have any stock.

sweet deal man. The mamba does great with low kv motors, but I have the same issue like you when I use my 7800kV LRP.

I'm also going to have some Brushless ESC for 1/18, 1/16 and 1/14 scale. This little guy has the following Specs:

Specifications:

40 Amps maximum continuous current rating (at 25℃ ambient temperature with proper air flow)
Input: 5~18 cell Nixx or 2~7S A123 or 2~6S Lixx
2 Amps BEC (maximum input with BEC limited to 9 cell Nixx or 3S A123 or 3S Lixx)
Dimensions: 40 X 24 X 14 mm
Weight: 23g (including leads)

Features:

Proportional forward, brake and reverse
Proportional control of starting torque by throttle trigger – the starting
torque can be tremendous high or incredibly low
Extremely smooth startup and low speed operations
Programmable throttle curve, acceleration rate, motor timing, low
battery cutoff voltage, reverse power limit and drag brake strength
Easy and fast stick programming with ‘skip’ and ‘read back’ features
5 programmable operation modes (please refer to the table below)
180,000 RPM theoretical speed limit for 2 pole motor
Lost signal protection

It has the following settings:

1: Throttle Curve:
Option 1 (30% Reverse Exponential)
Option 2 (15% Reverse Exponential)
Option 3 (Default) (Linear)
Option 4 (15% Exponential)
Option 5 (30% Exponential)

2: Acceleration Rate:
Option 1 (Very low)
Option 2 (Low)
Option 3 (Default) (Normal)
Option 4 (High)
Option 5 (Very high)

3: Motor Timing Advance:
Option 1 (Very Low)
Option 2 (Low)
Option 3 (Default) (Normal)
Option 4 (High)
Option 5 (Very High)

4: Operation Mode:
Option 1 (Mode 1 Forward with proportional brake and stop lockout
Reverse with proportional brake and stop lockout)
Option 2 (Default) (Mode 2 Forward with proportional brake and stop lockout
Reverse with proportional brake to stop then Forward (no lockout))
Option 3 (Mode 3 Forward with proportional brake to stop then Reverse (no lockout) Reverse with proportional brake to stop then Forward (no lockout))
Option 4 (Mode 4 Forward with proportional brake only (no reverse))
Option 5 (Mode 5 Forward and Reverse with adjustable Drag Brake (for Crawlers or Tanks only))

5: Battery Type:
Option 1 (Nixx)
Option 2 (A123)
Option 3 (Default) (Lixx (Low) (2.8 V cutoff per cell))
Option 4 (Lixx (Medium) (3.0 V cutoff per cell))
Option 5 (Lixx (High) (3.2 V cutoff per cell))

Item 6: Low Battery Cutoff Voltage:
Option 1 (Nixx 5-6 cell (Disable), A123 Not applicable, Lixx (Low) Not applicable, Lixx (Medium) Not applicable and Lixx (High) Not applicable
Option 2 (Default) (Nixx 7-8 cell (6.0 V), A123 2S (Disable), Lixx (Low) 2S (5.6 V), Lixx (Medium) 2S (6.0 V) and Lixx (High) 2S (6.4 V)
Option 3 (Nixx 9-11cell (8.0 V), A123 3S (6.0 V), Lixx (Low) 3S (8.4 V), Lixx (Medium) 3S (9.0 V), Lixx (High) 3S (9.6 V)
Option 4 (Nixx 12-14 cell (10.4 V), A123 4S (8.0 V), Lixx (Low) 4S (11.2 V), Lixx (Medium) 4S (12.0 V), Lixx (High) 4S (12.8 V)
Option 5 (Nixx 15-18 cell (13.2 V), A123 5S (10.0 V), Lixx (Low) 5S (14.0 V), Lixx (Medium) 5S (15.0 V), Lixx (High) 5S (16.0 V)
Option 6 (Nixx Not applicable, A123 6S (12.0 V), Lixx (Low) 6S (16.8 V), Lixx (Medium) 6S (18.0 V), Lixx (High) 6S (19.2 V)
Option 7 (Nixx Not applicable, A123 7S (14.0 V), Lixx (Low) Not applicable, Lixx (Medium) Not applicable, Lixx (High) Not applicable

7: Low Battery Cutoff Method:
Option 1 (Partial Cutoff)
Option 2 (Default) (Full Cutoff)

8: Reverse Power Limit:
Option 1 (25%)
Option 2 (50%)
Option 3 (75%)
Option 4 (Default) (100%)

Item 9: Drag Brake Strength
Works with: 4 (Option 1-4) 5 (Option 5)
Option 1 (Default) 0% 0%
Option 2 5% 12%
Option 3 10% 25%
Option 4 15% 37%
Option 5 20% 50%
Option 6 25% 62%
Option 7 30% 75%
Option 8 35% 87%
Option 9 40% 100%

This little controller is the only one I know of that has a Battery setting for the A123 style batteries with a 2.0V cut off and it has a setting for crawlers.

I like the high cell counts... when are you expecting this?

Aqwut the above ESC is for the small RCs. The factory only has 30 of them and I'm thinking of getting them all, but I don't know how many people would actually want one. If I can get 20 people interested, I'll bring the 30 units in.

yeah... those are some good escs according to the specs... that's a lot of power for a small scale RC.. but it's awesome to have a 1/18th scale rc running 22.2 volts...

The small ESC says to use up to 3S lipos with BEC and to desable it for 4-6S lipos. Man I tried this little monster with a 5S 3850mAh TP to see if it could handle it. Well it does and the Mamba 8000 motor's shaft broke. This will be the ESC I will use in a micro to try and set s speed record. I might buy a Recoil to do this.

i had a recoil running a wraith7k/quark 33a. i loved how that car handled the power. i miss it now that it hit ebay to fund other projects. i think i seen a pro version coming out so i might have to get one of those again to fill the loss i feel.

I own a few Quark 33A and 22A and they are good, but this 40A controller goes a step further with the 6S lipo and 7S A123 capability.

what i think would be cool is
one of these
http://www.atomicmods.com/Products/E...FRpdagodVmMrXg

your esc, lutach.

2 of these
http://b-p-p.com/proddetail.php?prod=j_%23TP2000_11.1

and this (maybe, 6s might burn it up, but for $19, who cares :lol:)
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5379

I have the Align 430L that I want to try with around 4S. I love that Atomic conversion.

I noticed earlier you mentioned HV for electric vehicle stuff. That is an additional market you guys could grab if you went over 12s. I currently run 25s 4p A123 cells but only at 25 amps on a bike. Some other guys online are running 30s with around 80 amps. Everyones major complaint in that community is the lack of high current brushless controllers. So put something out. The popular FET in that community is IRFB4110 100v 180a peak. I love my RC but would love to have some more power so I could basically ride my RC.

I received a mail from the guy who is doing my HV controller and he said he will work on the software after the next year. He also mentioned it is easier to make a 80 or 100 volt unit. I'm still waiting for him to give me a solid answer on that. I know of a company that makes controllers for e-bikes and I think they have 2 motors, one is 5000W and the other is 10000W. Here is the specs on the controller:

Power Voltage Supply: 48V-60V DC
Drivable Motor Power: 1500W-10KW
Max. drive Current: 75A-300A

Here is the specs on one of the motor designs:

Rated voltage: DC48V-72V
Rated power: 10000W
Rated rotating speed: 1000rpm-2600rpm
Rated efficiency: Greater than and equal to 90%
Applied for electric bicycles, tricycles, electric ATV and four wheeler vehicles
Stator Diameter: 160mm

maybe it is a bit off topic but could you post some pic's from your bike?

Slight bit of a necropost, but I stumbled across this whilst looking on fleebay:

Speedpassion esc

and their main site:Clicky

One or both of those escs look rather familiar to me...

You should check out the guys at rctech.net. They are flaming and would probably choke me to death. Speed Passion is a line from King Golden which is a distributor. I have the controller from the factory that made Speed Passion, but the factory's has beeter specs. I think UH www.hobbycity.com will carry the same model I have. I'm still trying to get pricing from the factory, but the delay is incredible.

Problem is the 3S lipo limit sucks

For Speed Passion yes, mine handles 4S lipos.

I saw that in the SP thread lutach

You really got flamed lol, I was laughing so hard, those guys really want what everyone else has

Link please, I enjoy a good laugh.

Check into this one as well....

http://www.himodel.com/electric/HiMo...200A-OPTO.html

They actually messed up in this forum: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=244134. Adam actually said the SP GT pictured was the 60A Feigao, which is not true. I hope to get prices soon and I hope hobbycity.com can get them as well and I'll see what those guys who bought the GT will say. It's funny how Shawn started making up specs when he was under the gun. Those guys have no clue what timing means and I've seen them saying if you advance the time in a brushless, the motor will be faster. I wish my motors would go faster if I change the timing. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

I'm still waiting to see what some guys in rcgroups have to say about that controller. The price is too good to pass out for a 200A, 7S controller.

Those guys are loyal Schumacher fanatics, are you prepared to go there :lol:.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=200179 They really got pissed after Post #245.

They closed this thread: http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=172640

Unless Im mistaken we looked at those the oyther day- nice cheap boat or plane esc, but it has no reverse and only on/off brakes. Good for a nitro conversion with mech brakes.

http://www.himodel.com/electric/HiMo...d_Control.html this one how ever does atleast have adjustable brake settings, but still no reverse.

While I cant comment on your speedo.... The GT is a nice speedo, and its the smoothest of novak, LRP..... IDK what advancing the timing on the speedo does, but it does give the motor more rpm (its noticeable down the back straight..)

Its a nice speedo..... But I dont own one..... And I dont plan to, but I might get one...

All other companies timing works with different motor. A motor with 12 poles does require a higher timing, while 2-4 poles will do ok with 0-5 or so degrees. I will try to advance the timing on the ESC I have to see if I notice any change in speed. Maybe it's different in these controllers. BTW the GT was made for Speed Passion and the one I have is from the company that made them. The difference is that the one I have handles 4S lipos and has a 120A cont. and 720A burst. You can get the GT cheaper at www.rcmart.com if you do plan on getting it.

I know if you run a novak esc, with a orion motor, and then swap to a LRP with the same batt, gearing ETC the LRP is faster, the LRP has more timing then all the other speedos, and then the GT has programable timing, so you can use a ton of timing if you want to.

I know yours has higher specs, but in my touring car, what I want (and everyone else on RCT) is a super smooth speedo, having a speedo that can handle 2 times the voltage and all that is useless.... You can run more then 2s lipo if your really racing, so its kind of useless you know? Im not saying either one is better, its just the GT is proven to work extremely well, and thats what they want

And I can get the speedo even cheaper then that =) Good old racers discount

Here are some videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2uIjw_ct08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaquBD-lr6E

This is by far one of the best esc I've had. It is extremely smooth with a sensorless Trinity N80 and the speedo doesn't heat up at all. I've ran it a couple times before I made those videos and got over 20 minutes from my 5000mAh 2S packs and the esc was still cold and the motor was just warm. I have changed the pinion to a 30T and the spur is 69T just to see if this controller can heat up a bit:lol:.

I have seen it.... But thats not racing, and its not with novak, orion, and LRP motors...

Sounds like you need to send them to people to test out at the track if you really want to prove its a better controller then the others and get the name out

I know it's not racing. I did some club racing down in Florida, but I can't give professional advice. I can only give information from what I've tried brushless wise, if people like the GT which is basically little lower spec controller than what the original manufacturer controller is, then they will love this one. You are missing the point here. The controller I have is from the company that made the GT for Speed Passion. Speed Passion is not the manufacturer.

I know its the same thing, but everyone else doesnt.......

People here will buy them, but to get people in the racing side you will have to have people using them.... People buy what wins, and nothing else (There weird)..... I dont because I am into rc on the BL side, and then electric racing.....

Point well made. Well, I'm in no position to have any driver sponsored and I only have this one unit to test. Maybe a well known company will bring some of them in and have racers run with them.

Id run one if you had more..... Get some more made

All I'm getting at the moment are delays :lol: from the manufacturer. I know they are on vacation "Chinese New Year", but before I've asked for pricing about 1000 times. This delay can cause myself to have delays and that is not good. I did ask them for a spare power board (to try a MOD simular to the one Griffin made to the MM) and the 14.8v fan. I'll see if they can answer me. If not, I won't bring them.

Ahhh

Well def keep us updated what happens

Still off topic, but this should open the eyes of Schumacher a bit on their over pricing the Speed Passion GT:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...85#post4222485
http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...=1#post4222488 (Now all this guys are pissed at me so lets see what they say now)

I hope Adam from Schumacher doesn't say that the Venom is a Feigao like he did with the GT in this thread (Post #19): http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=244134.

Man I need a real ESC......any thing new on the release?

I feel you man. I was hoping Castle would shine the light on a Real HV system for car. It will happen one day. I hope mine comes out before though :lol:. I ran my HW with 4S lipos today in my TC3 Truggy with the HV4.5 motor and the run ended early due to the spur gear. It got loose at the end of the 5 minutes or so run. I've attached the data of the run. I will make a video to quite some folks in rctech and one guy who said the HW controller is not as smooth as the Speed Passion GT.