hopefully soon, i ordered the motor a month ago, but i think Neu is pretty flat out producing motors atm. The lead time is usually 2-4 weeks, so fingers crossed the motor will be here soon.

then i need some Neuenergy lipos, which i think are also on backorder everywhere :no: a DX3R, MMM and a charger and i should be ready to go. I'll need to pick up bits and pieces as well, i don't know what they are yet, but as you would know, RC is never as easy as 1 2 3 :lol:

jordan

P.S, forgot to mention, i need some custom centre drives from Mike, but i'll have to wait till the CD is fixed until i can get some measurments

That's incredible! I'd go with some different LiPos though because from a purely aesthetic point of view, it seems they would look a little strange with the red shrinkwrap in that gray/silver truck. Maybe get some Polyquest or Flightpower packs? :neutral:

Nice truck! Looks like its comming together nicely. Whre did you get the CF wrap for the wing?

Also, if you dont like the color of your lipo packs you can always just buy some black shrink wrap from maxamps and put a black cover over them. I do this with my packs not for looks, but to get one more layer of covering on them. Then when it starts to get a scuffed and starts to tear and such from use, you can just strip the our layer and reshrink it again. It keeps the manufacuteres wrap in better condition for longer.

Thanks for the comments guys :great:

Good idea with the (non)coloured lipos, the reason i decided Neu is because they have a 5000mah 30C pack, whereas the 30C Flightpower only goes up to 4900mah, probably not a huge difference there though :tongue: Might have to consider that shrink wrap idea of jhautz, it would look alot neater with black packs.

As for the CF vinyl, i got it from Tower, search through the manufacturers for 'Upgrade RC', they make loads of different vinyls for wings, radios, wheels, even pit chairs!! It turned out alot better than i thought it would!! :party: They make a whole buch of different designs as well, so yeh, check it out.

thanks for the comments
jordan

Hay Jordan,
Where is your battery tray?? Are you fabing one up out of the CF sheet you’ve got or what?? I'm just confused at the moment why you built a center drive plate when the stock trays will provide you with protection in that area??.

I don’t mean to analyzes your truck, I just love looking it, these things just pop out (sorry)

Have a great one

Shaun.

i had to read that a few times to understand it, then i looked at the pics and was like, aaahhhh :lol:

im still going to be using the gmaxx lower plate, i just had it off to fit the CD mount, and didn't get it back on for the pics. It was really only a mock up in the pics, you can see that i only have four screws holding on the plate instead of eight, and theyre all different lengths.

I had to make the CD plate because if i mounted the CD on the 'floor,' (lower gmaxx plate) i wouldn't be able to get clearence between the motor and the upper back plate, if that makes sense... :whistle: also, the 44t kyosho spur fits EXACTLY in between the frame rails, like perfectly, not even half a mill on each side to spare, so i had to raise the CD for clearence there as well.

i think i've answered your question :neutral:, if not, please feel free to clarify. Im open to any suggestions/questions/comments/criticisms, after all, it can only make the truck better.

thanks
jordan

Couldn't you mount it on the lower deck and just move the whole diff assembly forward?

Like this. This is my G2R Revo with one of Dafs center dif mounts in it. The diff is totally forward and allows the motor to sit low, almost in between the rails of the chassis. With a little creativity you could probably get it even farther forward on a Maxx. With the revo you start running into the shock positions that cause more problems.


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1702.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1701.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1704.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1705.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1703.jpg

Here is an earlier incarnation of it with a 1521 just to show you that a longer motor will fit. I would think that on the maxx you could find another 6mm to fit the 1527 you are planning.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG2026.jpg

that is one slick setup jhautz, i love the swaybar braces coming off of the sides of the mount, and I see you've already predicted and rebutted my first question/argument about the size of the motor :lol:

Does daf still produce these mounts?? looking at the design, i might still be able to use the Xray mounts i have, and just make a motor mount to fit the motor.

jhautz, how do you like the CD setup compared to the e-maxx tranny setup?

A sweet looking design, i'll definately look into it, thanks jhautz, and also thanks the Shaun (TDC57) for bringing up the topic :great:

jordan

i've just been playing around with different placements of the CD on the lower deck. Having the diff placed exactly where i see it in the pics, just before the front upper gmaxx plate, the diff hits my servo saver. Maybe the steering assembly on the Revo is a little farther forward than it is on the Maxx??

When i move the CD unit back far enough for the SS to clear, the bottom of the spur hits the lower deck. Maybe Dafni's mounts position the diff a little higher up than standard buggy/truggy CD mounts?

[EDIT] i think i know whats causing the problem. Due to the Revo's suspension setup, the bulkheads are located further away from the chassis than they are on the maxx, thus the steering assembly is also further away. From the third picture down, i can tell that there is a fairly long driveshaft. On the maxx, the dogbone would only be around 2cm :oh: i'll get some pics up shortly

[EDIT 2 :lol:]

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01066.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01068.jpg

sorry for the crappy pics, my camera doesnt take good close ups. Please let me know if im doing something wrong here, i would still love to mount the motor low down in the chassis.

thanks
jordan

If your front dogbone is that short, it should in theory be bulletproof because there's not much that can bend or break. About how long would your rear dogbone have to be?

that equals a rear dogbone length of 7 inches :gasp:

if you look at the first pic, you can see the centre diff cup is past the SS arm though, so i would have to mount the unit further back, which means the motor might not fit. Maybe if someone hadn't gone overboard on the motor, then this setup would be way easier to install :whistle: :oops:
what can i say, i NEED power :diablo:

Yeah, I would too if I spent (I'm guessing) $3500 on a truck. The rear dogbone would have to be pretty dang fat to not snap, though.

Its strange you know, I've been trying to fihure out a way to mount the motor on a center diff like this for ages- the maxx steering assembly & gmaxx chassis rails do add a few extra layers of complication. RCAlloys can make big fat dogbones for you, any length you like for a nominal fee that is very reasonable. At best, the sketches I've done that allow a CD unit to be fitted to the Gmaxx require custom made chassis rails- far easier than trying to work around the stock tranny mounting location. Oh, and you might wanna take a look at this too: MaxxBling :yes:

I was wondering what you had planned?? :whistle:

Thanks for the replay Jordan..

I cant wait to see you next update.. :party:

Have a great one..

Shaun.

Have you looked at the two 5000 batteries nue has, one is the 30c as your looking at and then they have the 25c and the only differances between the two are 125amp/150amp continous, the 30c is 23mm longer and 25 grams heavier........i didnt know if you had seend that or not and was still going to run the 30c even though its so much longer, i am looking at the same battery for my setup, i saw one place that had either pack for $220 each, i thought that was a good deal but id have to look through my histroy and find it if you wanted the site.

thanks for the info rootar,

$220 each?? on the Neu website the 25C packs are $149.50, and the 30C packs are $188 each. Problem is im not too sure if they have any stock in at the moment...

[EDIT] which Neu packs are you talking about for $220? im planning on running 2x 3s packs for 6s.

I have just finished reading the whole thread, WOW what a bad ass truck man I love it!!

Keep up the good work man!

it was 220 for either the 25c or 30c 5s 5000mah packs

thanks alot!! cant wait to see your 'twin' up and running as well


oh ok, ive now decided to go with 30C 4500mah Polyquest packs (if you didnt see my other thread in the brushless section) because of the $70+ i'll save for not much difference in performance.

I've also tried to get in contact with Neu through CC where i ordered my motor, but havent recieved any replies. I'm really annoyed with Neu's customer service as they've already charged my credit card but arent updating me on my motor. Also coming up on 7 weeks now, and the lead time is supposed to be 2-4 weeks, and heavent heard anything from Neu :no:

I'll post updates when i can, but i really need this motor :whip:

thanks alot
jordan

Seems like Neu need to employ more people/ expand their business & output, given the explosion in BL popularity.

Hi everyone,

A quick update nothing major, still not heard anything about the motor :grrrrrr: I managed to fashion a top plate for the centre differential unit out of the carbon fibre i have today, and i think it looks ok (a little rough around the edges). Hopefully it'll provide enough clearance when its all fully together.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01083.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01084.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01085.jpg

Also put a Gorillamaxx sticker on the back of the wing which i think looks pretty funky, also thought id just throw in a full picture of the truck with the different headlights and vinyl'd wing.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01080.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01081.jpg

thanks for looking, as i said, no major progress has really been made, just bits here and there. I'll keep you guys posted when the motor gets in!!

jordan

Heard.
 

I have read other posts here in RCM where people have stated that if you are going to order a NEU motor to make sure that you order it through MIKE because he has a repour and reputation with them that makes the ordeal a little less painful. That way you are only dealing with him and not the manufacturer. Just sharing the info.:lol:

True, i wish i had now given Mike's top notch customer service. But due to the motor being fairly 'one of a kind' i think Mike would have had to special order it from Neu anyway, so id still be waiting :sleep:

But at least id definately get a reply to my emails from Mike, he's definately got the best service around!! :rules:

Life
 

Yea sometimes things just do not go the way we would like, but where there is a will there is a way:mdr:. We all know it will work out in the end. Your project really turned out beautiful:party:. I am sure that you are quite proud and there is an awsome feeling of satisfaction when everything comes together:yipi:. I never did the Gmaxx version. The carbon fiber stuff looks really cool, but as TDC found out it has a weaker quality that only metal can cure:yes:. After reading through your thread I cannot wait to get my lightning Supermaxx completed and post it up here as well:whistle:. I was just thinking that I will have to post a thread with all four of my Maxx's so I can finally share them with everyone. It has been a long but fun road getting to this point and I will soon have all four of them up and running (by Xmas hopefully). Great job on this build Jordan. I am very much looking forward to seeing this Neu 1527 motor of yours:gasp:. I have the Big Max motor and I want to see how it compares. I may have to get a similar Neu for one of these beasts of mine. I just ordered two more monoblocks from UE for two of them. I to like the idea of having the built in fan on the motor. From other posts I have read the power of the 1527 is just rediculous for the Maxx trucks, but who knows? I guess you will find out first hand and then we can learn from your experience. Thanks for the thread Jordan, it has been great reading about your project. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing it with all of us. :yes:

Thanks for the kind words Jerry, really means alot. I can't wait to see your trucks, i always see your 'JERRY2KONE SUPERMAXX' heading and just wonder what truck(s) you could be hiding from us all :lol:

A lightning you say :gasp: can't wait to see how that is going to come together, they are THE most awesome chassis full stop...... A Bigmaxx on a lightning supermaxx, i dont think you can get any better than that :diablo:

again thanks for the kind words Jerry, be sure to get some pics of your Maxx family up some time in the future :yes:

jordan

P.S I may have cracked a way to mount the CD on the lower deck of the Gmaxx chassis, and still be able to fit the 1527 in, but sssshhhhhh... its a secret for now :whistle:

Lucky.
 

Yea I have gotten very lucky, and mostly from reading here on RCM and researching through all of the threads. I started out with a stock E-Maxx and got the Integy hopups first. Then when I got on here and began learning what was really available I took a different path in my quest for the ultimate R/C Monster Truck. In teh engineering field you learn to search out the weak points and find a way to elimnate them. In the end giving you a product that is unbreakable ("Bulletproof"). That has been my goal. This hobby is definately not cheap by any means, but if you look steadily and keep your eyes open and don't get in too much of a hurry you can realized your goal without braking the bank. Although after just a few years I have already spent nearly $20K just getting setup for these four trucks. I just want my kids to see and feel the difference between a toy (RPM & Integy) and true quality R/C gear (UE & FLM). This hobby and this site RCM are just a blast to be a part of. I am having a lot of fun just building these trucks & reading about the experiences of our fellow RCM borthers. I am excited about getting the hang of racing some where down the line, but for now I am just learning the mechanics & electronics of the hobby and this is fun as hell for me. Thank you for shring your kind words as well Jordan. There are a lot of really good people here and I am proud to be a part of the gang. I just need to know where I can get one of those monkey butlers to clean up after me. :lol::rofl:

Good evening Jordan..
I was going through your post and had to say DDdaaammm.. Your truck is coming along GREAT!!!... I just love your updates and your comments, always make for a good educational reading..

Did I read your last post correctly your getting a WHAT???? :surprised:1527???? That left me totally speechless and I'm extremely excited to see your next update..

I'm sorry to here it going slow with Neu, but they probably still trying to find the plane to pull it off of at the local airport..:lol::lol:

:rofl: :rofl: thanks for the kind words Shaun!! Yep, you heard right 1527/1D (2300kv) should run NICE on 6s.

Last night i sent a half angry e-mail to Neu how they had already charged my card and weren't updating me with progress and not replying to my emails blah blah blah..., and what do you know, i had a reply first thing this morning waiting in my inbox. Said they had a meeting yesterday about old orders and mine should ship by the end of the week hmmm... they took this long with no reply, and now can have it done in a couple of days... :no:

anyway, more updates to come when i get the motor

jordan

I'm totally looking forward to your next post Jordan.. I've never seen a motor that big!!..

Question for you Sir, why only 6s?? Why not two 5s in series totaling 10s?? I'm assuming it's the ESC holding you back??

Again / regardless thanks for the great update and I'm stocked for you that Neu finally returned your email..

Have a great one and thanks for your time..

Shaun.

hi shaun,

i pretty much chose the motor knowing i would be running on 6s, hence the 2300kv. Thats roughly 51k rpms, which is getting closer to the 60k limit Neu puts on their motors, but still leaves a nice margin under it. Now 10s, that would be insane, 85k rpms :oh:, i think the motor would fry after a little while. If i was planning on running more voltage i would have got a little lower kv motor.

Probably the most limiting factor apart from the ESC would be cost, don't really have an extra $500 to spend on lipos... oh yeah, not to mention all the replacement parts i would have to buy, tires, diffs, drive shafts, spurs, pinions... I'm broke as it is!!! :lol:

Really???
 

Ahh come on Jordan we are never broke. We are only waiting for our next check or windfall for purchasing the new items on our never ending R/C list. It is just like looking at a new car like the Dodge Viper knowing how badly we would love to dirve it to and from work every day. Except that with R/C the cost can be broken up in little hits from week to week and eventually acqiring whatever it is we hope to build, and finally completing the project. BROKE?? NEVER!!!!:lol:

Hay Jordan!!!

Any updates???

How’s that new (BAD BOY) motor working out for you??. :party:Let me guess you got your truck airborne over a jump and it now flying over the Atlantic ocean right??.:yes:

sorry, no updates just yet. I contacted Neu the week before last and they said the motor would be shipped 'end of the week to beginning of next week'. Contacted them again last week and they said the same thing... Have not heard anything since so im going to write another e-mail today :no:

i have been toying around with other CD positions though, but i haven't really achieved anything yet :neutral:

updates to come as soon as i get this dang motor!!

:no: That SUCKS..... I'm sorry you keep getting the runaround from Neu..:slap:

Hi guys,

Its been a LONG while since the last update, but i finally recieved the motor today. Its an absolute monster :gasp: Instead of the fan being mounted on the endbell like the heli motors on Neu's website, its mounted on the front of the motor, like the LMT forced air motors. Honestly i like it better this way as it doesn't make the motor any 'fatter,' just longer by about 0.5 inches.

Anyway, here are the pics so you can see for yourselves :mdr::

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01122.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01123.jpg

Here you can see the fan:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01126.jpg

And i thought i'd throw in a nice comparison shot for you guys:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...x/DSC01130.jpg

I've ordered a XB808 centre diff, because it comes with a 42t spur, so when that gets here i'll get to work on mounting the CD and motor on the truck. I'm working on some tricks with the centre diff position at the moment, and i'll post a full 'how to' when everythings done.

Enjoy!!!!
jordan

Jesus....

The truck is Awesome but I gotta say...this motor is HUGE!!! :surprised:

crappppppp
 

HOLY CRAPP BATMAN. Just looking at that thing is incredible. You could push quite a bit of weight with that monster. I shutter to think how hard it will be to control such power in that truck. With the right setup you should be able to achieve some pretty high speeds with that thing. If you do go for speed you are going to have to really think about your entire setup, like taping your tires and using beadlocks rims to keep them from flying apart. Your drivetrain should hoold up nicely. WOW that thing is amazing. Good luck with that Jordon.

Thanks alot guys, i can't wait to get this installed and ready to go.

Thanks for the tips Jerry, i've already got the tyres taped with multiple layers of duct tape :mdr:, hopefully the superglue holds up :oh: At the moment, im thinking the most important thing to running this motor will be the ESC setttings just right, but we'll have to see i guess...

holy crap that is one big motor.