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Aaah, the days of Nimh. :yes:
The test equipment showed Lies at work huh? Well some things just never change do they? Now adays, Maxamps has rebadged their 6500SS Lipos Series, put a different label on the 30C packs and created a whole new line of Lipos. Introducing the NEW "True 150C" series. About the only thing that HAS changed now is: We make claims waaaay beyond the limitations of ANY test equipment. But they will show a 7C discharge graph to represent this "New" breakthrough technology! Yuck! I just threw up a little. |
In the end what is the motivation to change?
I ask that because they've sold and continue to sell piles of packs.. I see the name plastered in every magazine and for all of the in house tests I almost always see MaxAmps pointed out as the batteries used for the testing. Over and over again pubs like RC Car Action tout the new packs and the "amazing" capabilities they offer. When using them for RC it is rare to even push the realistic limits of the packs so they continue to up the ante by pushing the ratings to the point where they are almost absurd yet there aren't any reputable pubs that stand up and validate their claims (or they simply don't have the gear to do it). I am interested in pushing the packs to the advertised capabilities however I realize I'll just be another poster on this forum providing good information to those of us that already know the reality, in the end I don't think the expense and effort will provide real value to the greater market since the platform to push the information is limited. |
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Yes, that's why I will never and have never bought their batts. I saw this when they were selling GP3300 packs on ebay way back when. They were selling 6 cell packs for ~$5 more than everyone else, and promised ridiculous cell voltage numbers on untested, unmatched and unproven cells. Their guarantee was complete BS, as they knew no one would ever actually test the cells with proper equipment, but it sounded like a killer deal compared to the high end matched packs. They sold tons of them with this scam. This is their business model. BS all the specs, hype the batts, target the suckers, overcharge to give illusion of quality, and cash in. IMO, they are ebay scam artists made big. They would make Nigerian 419'ers proud. I don't get too involved in all these bashing threads (which they always become) as its rather pointless anymore. If you are foolish enough to pay for their overpriced, shabby little packs, you haven't been paying attn. Loads of people are, which says more about consumers than them at this point. [/end] |
Last post on this..
From the 2005 thread linked above. Same story as in 2010. BS, BS, BS until you get caught, then deflect and spin and put on happy faces. Notice Austin doesn't deny lying, merely justifies it as everyone is lying too. I'm sure if the thread went on long enough he'd publicly offer to exchange the packs and get congratulations of great CS.
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I find your other statements confusing; if a matcher cycles cells 3 to 4 times to get consistent performance label numbers, it's bad. You claim they've used up most of the good cycles and there are only a couple of good cycles left in them. If a customer buys MaxAmps batteries and cycles them 4 to 6 times in an effort to find their hidden 1.18+ potential, that's good. Who do you believe you are addressing with these ridiculous statements? Do you think we are a bunch of mindless, uneducated morons? Your statements are incredibly demeaning! Bottom line, a customer thoroughly tested one of your packs and it did not come close to 1.18 volts. |
If you guys are actually serious about testing, and will pay the money. Get yourself a 2s 6500 150C battery and attach to your 8th scale geared up, and log a run on it. In all reality, nobody is going to do it. You dont really care, you just like to complain and talk trash about maxamps. You also don't care that it has been repeatedly stated that it's a 75C constant rating, you still rag on it as them claiming its 150C constant. I know the way they "rate" this one as opposed to any other is reason enough to call them out on it, but to keep on about it just gets old.
A class action lawsuit? Get real, first you'd actually have to buy one of their packs, which from what I've read won't ever happen, and then prove their false claims. I've seen a lot of "probably"s and "likely"s with no attempt to back up your claims from you posters trashin on Maxamps, what's the difference between what you're saying vs. what you're bitchin about maxamps saying? As someone posted a few pages back, you guys took the bait, you should drop this thread, it's been a couple months, there are no more graphs coming. Im not siding or defending maxamps, but for someone who just read through this entire thread during the last couple hours, it seems pretty well useless to continue on, everybody knows you guys don't care for maxamps but yet you keep giving them more of your time and attention to prove your dead horse point repeatedly. Sorry, just expected a little more class from this forum after wasting my time through 33 pages of nothing. If any of you really did half expect anything more out of what you're used to with maxamps, then shame on you. |
Actually, sir, we do care. That is why we continue to complain. We hate seeing MA lead people on with their claims of superior performance with nothing backing them up. We were hoping for a change since they hired a "new" marketing director. Though it turns out they lied about that, too. Before MA, he had been the editor of a RC mag with MA as one of their main sponsors, so basically he had been working for them all along.
Any legal action against MA would be ridiculous. I have to agree with you on that point. As dishonest as their claims are, not a single person on this forum would be willing to pay for a lawyer to go after them...even if the costs were split. Sorry to have disappointed you with the literary quality of the thread. What did you expect? You seem to be familiar with the whole MA situation here...so why did you bother to read the whole thread in the first place and then suddenly become angry about doing so when it turned out to be the same old story? |
I guess the same reason everyone else did :oops:
What could you possibly expect out of a new MARKETING director though? Seriously, quality isn't going to change, just new ways to sell, and it seems they've done great in that department. For me, poor quality or service isn't a deterrent, I have a really old maxamps battery that still works. I think anyways, I havent checked on it lately. Price is the factor that will keep me from ordering. It's newbs to the RC or lipo world that is what maxamps is after. Worked on me once, worked on my friend once as well, and probably a host of you guys as well. It's been a couple years since I've been overly active so I guess I happened onto this thread and overreacted to your reactions to the same old song and dance. I half expected trash talk, but I didn't really expect two months worth of maxamps leading you on. If you look at it the way I did (after the fact), you can see once the natives get restless, wilcox comes in and throws you a bone, then you settle down for a bit, then repeat. What was going to happen before halloween hasn't happened yet and it's nearing Christmas. |
I guess we were expecting Brandon to deliver what noone else could... Solid proof of their performance claims. I think that's a great marketing strategy....
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So then we hear the "cells" are rated for 75C CONTINUOUS... Ok, well that's still really good... Can we have proof of that? Sure! Here's a 7C discharge graph for ya........... You see my point. :lol: |
You're preachin to the choir. Im very much aware of the issues and everyone's point of view with them. Its almost as though you're dealing with someone who's always been up front and honest and glad to provide detailed charts. :rofl:
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There was a small ray of hope, only because Mr. Wilcox initially showed interest in our concerns and offered to help...unlike anyone else who has represented MA on this forum in at least the time I've been here.
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I really dislike RC Car Action. I know this video has been thoroughly discussed, but it is still funny to see RCCA pimp MA. What a joke! :lol: |
Mate of mine got suckered into these Maxcramps packs, so over the weekend I'll do some Eagletree tests in my SCRT10 and compare them with my Enerland 5050mah 30C packs. Will post up the graphs and see if we can settle this.
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Not sure if this has been posted but you may find this interesting. Here Just for reference brand P is maxamps if you can't work it out. I know this is not the 'true 150' batteries but maxamps doesn't change:whistle:
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This is a pack that is supposedly "rated" to deliver 55 amps continously. :rofl: |
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