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bdebde 09.12.2008 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffEmbracedDC (Post 211693)
...In such a case, what shall we do? go back to Mamba Maxes with ccbecs, capacitors and fans. Yipee!

-Jeff

The new MGMs look like a winner.:yes:

George16 09.12.2008 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffEmbraceddc
In such a case, what shall we do? go back to Mamba Maxes with ccbecs, capacitors and fans. Yipee!

-Jeff

Or you can try Luciano's Chinese ESCs. I ordered a 6S ESC from him. We'll see how it stacks up when it arrives :lol::intello:.

lincpimp 09.12.2008 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by George16 (Post 211700)
Or you can try Luciano's Chinese ESCs. I ordered a 6S ESC from him. We'll see how it stacks up when it arrives :lol::intello:.

I am going with the 10s model... Sounds like a winner to me. I have an aveox 36/38/2 1200kv motor (1515 sized) that should work well on 8-10s! Hope we have better success with them than we are having with the MMM.

DRIFT_BUGGY 09.12.2008 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 211694)
Whatever works. We were running these things without the MMM before it was released. There are new options coming allong all the time. Losi, MGM has new models comming out. DOnt forget the MM, R1Pro and even the quark are all decent options still.

How many people on here have used the R1 Pro? Before the MMM was out, the MM was the main ESC used

tc3_racer_001 09.13.2008 07:27 AM

took mine for a 1/2hr use and its still working. update if it does happen to cark it.. fully stock bar a bit of unshrinked heatshrink tubing over the signal wires and switch - they looked like they would get worn down took quickly.

also: i know this thing can pull more than 110A -hooked up my wattmeter inline and its rated for 100A max... very happy with the zippy pack ive got - just a bit too heavy!!

George16 09.13.2008 10:55 AM

Two more failures and the poll will be dead even :intello::intello::na:.

tc3_racer_001 09.13.2008 06:20 PM

no. only 1 person who has added working to change :D

hope its not mine!

Electric Dave 09.13.2008 09:59 PM

Well, I started this poll 9 pages ago and I finally voted tonight. Thanks to bad weather, the last two weeks of racing have been cancelled at my track. I've taken my MMMv2 out twice for some testing around the house and once for a set of packs at the track but I didn't want to vote until I had a full day of racing, 4 sets of packs through it. Today was that day. My MMMv2 worked flawlessly.

But...

The guy pitting next to me, also a member here on this forum, had a nearly identical E-Revo to mine and his MMMv2 fried! Same mounting position, also running 4s. His just stopped and smelled of burning. So on the day, out in the real world, the MMMv2 is still at about a 50% failure rate. I'm very worried that mine will die at the worst possible moment...I sure wish that Castle would tell us what's going on.

jhautz 09.13.2008 10:08 PM

I have another new V2. Do I get to vote again for the 2nd one?

Are there others out there with more than one V2? I'd like to get a true read by letting people vote for all of the V2s they have rather than just once.

TruckBasher 09.13.2008 10:14 PM

I have 2 ....one died (no warranty..modded version) and one that had 15mins only still alive but inconclusive as my truck broke a couple of alu before I could test MMM :lol: (and no I havent voted yet for the 2nd one :neutral: )

I believe Brian is trying to add both working/failure units for users that have multiple MMM...

e-mikey 09.14.2008 02:02 AM

My second one died today. Anyway of putting another failed up there?

This has to be CC's worst nightmare.

mxracer 09.14.2008 07:57 AM

i purchased 5 .. the first one died today , 1 full pack flawless , 2nd pack turned on , and now seems to be a bec problem .. lets see how the next 4 go ?

JaySki 09.14.2008 08:29 AM

I have had 3 more die from exchanges. 2 BEC failures and 1 up in flames.

e-mike 09.14.2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-mikey (Post 212339)

This has to be CC's worst nightmare.

lolllme too i think that:yes:

and the worst for me its that i have 3 mmmv2 in the mail.....arrrggghhhhhh

killjoyken 09.14.2008 01:03 PM

I've got 2 V2s back from Castle a while ago but haven't had the nerve to try them out. Reading the posts about them going up in flames has got me spooked. I've got one almost ready to go, but I'm just debating if I want to use the CCBEC or not.

It really boggles my mind that I can run a MM/CCBEC on 4s all day long in this big, heavy truck, but my "badass" MMM fails.

e-mike 09.14.2008 01:07 PM

me i will go with the internal bec....and modiff the case:yes:and cross my finger...

david lamontagn 09.14.2008 01:27 PM

Is your finger are long enough to be crossed:rofl:
You can't reach the brake on your Tx :lol:

e-mike 09.14.2008 01:28 PM

lolll....:yes:

tntpower 09.14.2008 05:09 PM

I have installed my new MMM in my 8ight-t but i'm not sure if I will test it with the internal bec or with castle UBEC I have :eyes:. One thing for sure, I have install a cheap receiver AM and cheap servo just to be sure in case of fire...:gasp:

phatmonk 09.14.2008 05:25 PM

I took my Cen Matrix out today and ran Neu 1512/1.5D on 3s and my MMMV2 worked no problems only 15 minutes though.So I said what the Hay I am putting my 4s 6000 battery in and seeing what would happen and the MMMV2 worked great and it was AWESOME!Way to fast Yea it was a rocket I only ran 5 minutes till the Autocross tires almost shredd off the rims.Basicly speed runs on asphault.

david lamontagn 09.14.2008 05:25 PM

Which motor have you put in your eight Dany??

david lamontagn 09.14.2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 212557)
I took my Cen Matrix out today and ran Neu 1512/1.5D on 3s and my MMMV2 worked no problems only 15 minutes though.So I said what the Hay I am putting my 4s 6000 battery in and seeing what would happen and the MMMV2 worked great and it was AWESOME!Way to fast Yea it was a rocket I only ran 5 minutes till the Autocross tires almost shredd off the rims.Basicly speed runs on asphault.

Now try it a full pack on 6s please:lol:
I think that this controller is rated for 6s, but not able to take it.
I've sell my Neu 1515 2.5d to e-mike, and i'll try my MMM in my Slash on 3s only.
When CC will be able to make a solid and true 6s controller, i'll put bake my e-veo on the track.
But for now, my e-revo is sit on the shelf and stay it as long as i'll find a good controller for 6s.

phatmonk 09.14.2008 05:38 PM

Yea I agree it sucks that you have to be hesitant to run the MMM v2 on 6s or even 5s.I was afraid that it would poof on 4s with a 1512/1.5d.But Iam not going to baby a controler that they say can handle more than I can throw at it.If this one fries its back to CC then when a replacement arives it goes on ebay

e-mike 09.14.2008 05:39 PM

yes try it on 6 cell:yes:

coreyfro 09.15.2008 04:57 PM

Anyone know if castle will do a recall? I sent mine back last week. After 5 minutes, stopped dead.

Max amps 3000mah 6S, Lehner Basic XXL 1800 (87 amp, max) Traxxas slash.

No fire, no smoke, no smell. Just dead. Could link it still, I tried flashing the firmware but that didn't revive it. This was all before I knew of the BEC problems.

Hope the new batch is solid. I'm not demanding much from it, but it sounds like the BEC is having trouble switching down from ~25volts to ~5volts.

e-mike 09.15.2008 04:59 PM

just like you coreyfro we waiting for some answer....and updates:yes:

Arct1k 09.15.2008 05:07 PM

Early days and tempting fait for sure but over this weekend I finally had chance to run 3MMM’s v2:

- I ran a full pack of hard bashing (lots of crashes) though my G-Revo setup MMM 6s2p A123 1515 2.5D 5955TG with no issues
- Two packs of track, bashing and torture test (full throttle, full break repeat x 20 on tarmac) X1CR setup MMM 4s 1512 1Y 5955TG with no issues
- Two packs of track and bashing Hyper ST Pro setup MMM 4s 1515 1Y 7955TG with no issues

All of the got up to temp enough for the internal fan to run. I would add that all are running an UBEC, switches have been removed, telfon washer and heat shrink added to fan.

If you check the CC threads CC have repeatedly said they think this still might be setup related in some manner and are in the process of collating and testing machines that have repeated failures. At this point I'm not sure what more they can say until they have actually concluded the testing.

RBMike 09.15.2008 05:23 PM

My pre-replacement MMM failed yesterday, broken fan & dead BEC. About 2 hours of run time on it.

My Total dead MMM reveiw:
MMMv1, Dead BEC, broken fan.
MMMv1 (repaired from above), Dead BEC, broken fan & fan connector
MMMv2, dead Fan controller & BEC & broke connector
MMMv2 (pre replacement for the one above), broken fan & dead BEC

I have one that has been run for about 30 minutes, still working.
I have another that has been working for 2 to 3 hours of run time but the fan died & the fan connector is broken off the bottom of the board. (I have installed a Novak fan that is pluged into the RX and have cut the grill out of the top of the case. So 4 out of 5 have broken fans or connectors or both & the one that has not broken the fan has only 30 minutes on it.

CRTIM 09.15.2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 212881)
Early days and tempting fait for sure but over this weekend I finally had chance to run 3MMM’s v2:

- I ran a full pack of hard bashing (lots of crashes) though my G-Revo setup MMM 6s2p A123 1515 2.5D 5955TG with no issues
- Two packs of track, bashing and torture test (full throttle, full break repeat x 20 on tarmac) X1CR setup MMM 4s 1512 1Y 5955TG with no issues
- Two packs of track and bashing Hyper ST Pro setup MMM 4s 1515 1Y 7955TG with no issues

All of the got up to temp enough for the internal fan to run. I would add that all are running an UBEC, switches have been removed, telfon washer and heat shrink added to fan.

If you check the CC threads CC have repeatedly said they think this still might be setup related in some manner and are in the process of collating and testing machines that have repeated failures. At this point I'm not sure what more they can say until they have actually concluded the testing.

wow...finally a post that gave me some hope for finishing my build and trying my MMMv2 out ....can you tell me what bec's your using ??
...and more about the fan mods you did ??where does the heat shrink and washer go ?
thanks for your help

JeffEmbracedDC 09.15.2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coreyfro (Post 212877)
Anyone know if castle will do a recall?

It wouldnt make sense to recall. The MMM is not exactly harmful or dangerous to people except for in a few seemingly isolated cases. They will just offer replacements as the customer sees fit.

Arct1k 09.15.2008 06:05 PM

Fan mod is simply a teflon washer superglued into the middle of the fan case.

http://www.rcproductdesigns.com/images/jhautzShim.jpg
IMG: Care of Jeff

The heatshrink is on the fan lead to avoid it rubbing against the PCB.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRTIM (Post 212896)
wow...finally a post that gave me some hope for finishing my build and trying my MMMv2 out ....can you tell me what bec's your using ??
...and more about the fan mods you did ??where does the heat shrink and washer go ?
thanks for your help


e-mike 09.15.2008 06:07 PM

why add a washer at this place....??????

and do you remove the foam on the lid and make a groove....???

big greg 09.15.2008 06:10 PM

so it rubs in the moddle of the fan, protecting the blades

Darion 09.15.2008 06:48 PM

After running my 2s packs for about 4 hours of run time I ran a 4s 25C 5000 Poly RC pack through my MMM with no issues. Ran the truck hard for about 12 minutes ESC temp measured 120 motor temp was 155. Trucks gearing is 16/47 with the Savage trans locked into second. It was only one pack at 4s but great none the less.:yipi:

Darion

CRTIM 09.15.2008 08:14 PM

thanks arct1k for the pic and info

DRIFT_BUGGY 09.16.2008 12:39 AM

I still haven't had no issues with my fan. Still might look at doing this washer mod though

starscream 09.16.2008 03:01 AM

My V2 stopped working after 10 min.
6S NEU 1515 2Y in a mugen MBX5

Yes, this is Dafni's old faithful but unfortunately, old faithful's maiden voyage was cut short by the dreaded bec bug...

Now if only I knew how to perform BrianG's bec mod...... :whistle:

Dafni 09.16.2008 03:10 AM

Even Old Faithfull could not lift the MMM curse... :surprised:

Mad Max 09.16.2008 09:29 AM

My V2 Monster died silently after about ~20 min total runtime on 6s.

Now it just started it's second life as a MMM V2 lite (BEC removed, thx to BrianG). :party:
So far everything looks well, but I have no real runtime on it so far.

lucias 09.16.2008 10:27 AM

I let a friend borrow my V2 that was int he box when he got it.. He said he made it 3 packs before it died completely.. He was running it on 6s, it would turn on then die a couple of times and then there was nothing.. he burnt the BEC out of his V2.. My V1 I have been running on 5s for multiple packs.. the only thing that I have had go bad is the fan stopped working so I strapped a 5v fan out of a blade server that keeps that thing way cooler than the stock fan.. no problems with it other than that..

If I unplug the motor should I have to re-sync my radio? I did have the happen and didn't know if it was normal...


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