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SpeedAssault 11.13.2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by littleazn248 (Post 331566)
Hi there I noticed that you're using a custom chassis what are the dimensions? I'd love to do a similar project. So will Road Rage tires fit in the wheel wells of the body? By the way i also noticed you live in the Bay Area are you part of the M2 Hobbies forum yet?

Thanks

Sorry guys haven't been here in a while, I got an email notice from here, so I'm back now. with the car breaking so much I got a little distracted and built my Berg Crawler.
If you Use the monster size Road rage tires you would need to cut the wheel wells just a bit, i think those tires are like 6", should be some really great traction though.
Tell me about " M2 " I am not familiar with it.

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Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 331849)
Long live the E-Maxx in all its forms! Have been watching the build all along! Its great! How is it going?

Yea, they seem to be made into many different things including crawlers.


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Originally Posted by littleazn248 (Post 332765)
hmm i've been doing some research and cant seem to fine the wheel adapters you are using towards the end i see the OSH ones but i want to get ones like you use towards the end. You are using FG racing wheels right?

YEa I know they are very hard to find. They are Losi quick change adaptors part number LOSA2996 .

I also built an Off-roader, stretched out my RC10 GT (gas) since the engine was toast I made a electric engine mount and swapped in the Mamba MOnster and Castle motor, it's a blast to drive.

Back to the 1/5, I have the car back on the bench now and put the ESC back in. I bought a double set screw Pinion gear and added loctite, seems to be doing the trick. I need to replace the Front and Rear Bulkheads as they have endure damage from crashing.
SHould be able to get to that next week. Looking forward to getting it back on the road.
I am in Campbell and not far from the RAMS club Fremont College 1/5 races near Great America

I found the Black wheels on Ebay, used $50. but they don't have enough grip for this 6S so I am thinking of grooving them. I contacted FG supply they recommended these

Hope that helps
Oh the chassis dimensions : well it has many angles but the widest width is 7", total length 27" , between the arms under the diffs is 2 1/8", wheel base 20.5"

Anything else ?

littleazn248 11.13.2009 08:18 PM

sweet im so glad you could reply! Does your chassis have alot of flex? That info helps alot. As far as M2 hobbies i have been to much of the club meet as im super booked all the time. But they meet in South San Francisco. Im not sure if your familiar with Nor Cal hobbies but they meet there too. heres their site http://www.m2hobbies.com/board/index.php.

SpeedAssault 11.13.2009 09:45 PM

Cool I will check it out.

My chassis has no Flex because of the two square bars down the middle.

littleazn248 11.15.2009 02:15 PM

Thats good because i might go with a twin setup. Since I hear that the ezruns aren't as powerful as the MMM i figure why not use two ezruns:mdr:. However, it sounds like your breaking alot of parts; so are you breaking the center drive? Im don't quite remember reading but did you try just using the plastic slider shafts instead?
By the way how did you fit on revo arms? Also i remember hearing you said the car was to wide standard. So did you have to drill deeper so the ball joints could go in further?

Thanks

SpeedAssault 11.17.2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by littleazn248 (Post 333289)
Thats good because i might go with a twin setup. Since I hear that the ezruns aren't as powerful as the MMM i figure why not use two ezruns:mdr:. However, it sounds like your breaking alot of parts; so are you breaking the center drive? Im don't quite remember reading but did you try just using the plastic slider shafts instead?
By the way how did you fit on revo arms? Also i remember hearing you said the car was to wide standard. So did you have to drill deeper so the ball joints could go in further?

Thanks

Dont follow you on the twin setup..?
I have broken a tooth off the center spur gear, mod 1 51 tooth steel.
I upgraded to Losi center diff but locked it up with a steel block inside and a pin.. and upgraded to LOsi center diffs. Front with 5000wt, rear is locked. I used Losi gears but I cut down the stock traxxas ones, it's in the thread somewhere. the modified output shafts is what the revo drive axles connect to, they are doing great.
Page 2 http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...6&postcount=57
The revo arms fit with minor trimming of the emaxx bulkheads, but after a collision the bulkheads broke so I am putting the strong grey ones and Ditching the titanium screws and using 5/40 steel screws.

I cut down the arms by 1/4" and re-machined the inside of the 1/5 wheel square hub by 1/4". pics in thread

SpeedAssault 11.26.2009 02:46 PM

Pulled out the stock emaxx Bulkheads to replace with the grey ones and found my axle shafts are breaking apart


Whats the best CVD shafts ? hopefully without breaking the bank

Looking to get this back on the road

Thanks

Kcaz25 11.26.2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 335424)
Pulled out the stock emaxx Bulkheads to replace with the grey ones and found my axle shafts are breaking apart


Whats the best CVD shafts ? hopefully without breaking the bank

Looking to get this back on the road

Thanks

Traxxas CVDs. Their only flaw IMHO is when the suspension is raised up more than ~3/4 they fall out of the cup after landing jumps and such making for a bent shaft. You won't have this problem.

SpeedAssault 11.26.2009 11:37 PM

Kcaz25 , thank you. I may do that. how are the RDlogics shafts ?http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

In thinking about the break, it is just my right rear and now that my ESc is more dialed in and I have learned not to gun the trottle I may be ok with the stock ones.
But I need to know what other options I have.

Have you used them on 6s lipo ?

I once gunned it from a dead stop and the 12lb car jump 1 foot straight up and landed on passenger door, I dont think it moved forward much :lol:

these are Awesome looking shafts but I cannot afford them now.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Semi Pro 11.27.2009 02:46 AM

my advise is buy MIP, i tried everything in my maxx and nothing ever survived but the mip shafts lasted the longest

SpeedAssault 11.30.2009 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Semi Pro (Post 335513)
my advise is buy MIP, i tried everything in my maxx and nothing ever survived but the mip shafts lasted the longest

Thanks , Pro

I would like to try the sliperential, but I also heard about problems with the front end..? I forget the details. I started with this setup because I wante to see if I could get some Drift action from it.

You think I could still get some Drift action from it with a Sliper ential ?

PS Very nice list of cars you have there.

SpeedAssault 12.07.2009 06:46 PM

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Next change is making rocker arms and going horizontal shocks like F-1 cars or like the revo

Thinking of buying this and Transforming it http://rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24848

littleazn248 12.08.2009 02:00 AM

one step closer to the conversion just picked up a novak hv 6.5 yea i know its not a MMM but ehh...

SpeedAssault 12.08.2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by littleazn248 (Post 337731)
one step closer to the conversion just picked up a novak hv 6.5 yea i know its not a MMM but ehh...

Cool :yipi:. are you working on one, whats the plan ?

littleazn248 12.08.2009 10:44 PM

yea i am but slowly both budget and time issues mostly time issues i got finals next week and i also got a pretty loaded schedule next semester. But yes most definitely im working on one. Im working on a budget though. So far i still got to get the wheels, my FG racing Audi body, get the chassis cut out. But for now its just an emaxx

SpeedAssault 12.08.2009 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by littleazn248 (Post 337944)
yea i am but slowly both budget and time issues mostly time issues i got finals next week and i also got a pretty loaded schedule next semester. But yes most definitely im working on one. Im working on a budget though. So far i still got to get the wheels, my FG racing Audi body, get the chassis cut out. But for now its just an emaxx

Right Awn ! Start a build thread be sure to post pics

I recommend looking into Losi parts, definetly the drivetrain, although if your going to go 3s or 4s lipo you could stick with the emaxx 2spd tranny

littleazn248 12.09.2009 12:15 AM

Well im gonna keep the emaxx tranny for sure. I am however looking into some lst diffs and shocks but i'll wait till the stock ones break.

SpeedAssault 12.21.2009 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by littleazn248 (Post 337965)
Well im gonna keep the emaxx tranny for sure. I am however looking into some lst diffs and shocks but i'll wait till the stock ones break.

If you run 4s or easy with 5s you will probably be ok.
where's your thread?

SpeedAssault 12.21.2009 04:45 AM

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OK I know it' been awhile, I did some reworking/finishing touches on my 1/8 scale rock buggy and I also built a 2.2 Berg for comping.
But I have returned and have started on my horizontal shock setup for a few reasons:
IN the hopes of fitting on a more aerodynamic -better handling body this giant body really hinders speed and handling, I cant stop building and tweaking and I love the champ car F-1 car look.

If any of you has seen a thread or knows someone that makes polycarbonate bodies or there is a how to please let me know.
I would like to form/make a GTP or Similar body like below, pic taken from my Xbox360
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/DX200414.jpg

littleazn248 12.23.2009 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 340038)
If you run 4s or easy with 5s you will probably be ok.
where's your thread?

I haven't started a thread yet. Im kinda side tracking for now due to several reasons money, money and money. I have most of the stuff but the wheels, tires and body are gonna cost me an arm and a leg. Tomorrow I'll be going to my buddies house to get a truggy chassis designed. But for now no fifth scale stuff to pricey. But the thought of doing it is always there. I'll be constantly checking on this thread to check on progress!!!

What i planned on buying

FG Racing Audi Body
Proline Roadrage tires
Axial Oversized wheels

nativepaul 12.23.2009 12:40 PM

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What i planned on buying

FG Racing Audi Body
Proline Roadrage tires
Axial Oversized wheels
I cant say I think much of proline road rages, I bought a set for my buggy and to steal Gee's phrase it was like an elephant on stilts with them fitted, There very floppy and easily the worst on-road tyres I've used.

SpeedAssault 12.26.2009 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by nativepaul (Post 340337)
I cant say I think much of proline road rages, I bought a set for my buggy and to steal Gee's phrase it was like an elephant on stilts with them fitted, There very floppy and easily the worst on-road tyres I've used.

I love them on my 1/10 cars, up to 45mph.
Not sure about the 5" and 50+ mph
?

SpeedAssault 12.30.2009 04:45 PM

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What do you think ?
Jut a mock up, I may make my own rockers so dont pay to much attention to angles.
Trying to be different here:
Should I lay the suspension on top like F-1 or stand up like first pics ?

SpeedAssault 01.03.2010 10:58 PM

Preparing for a new low body.
The front turned out just ok, it was a bit tricky getting around the steering. I'll probably make a nicer one later. The rear one took a few hours machining in my drill press but it came out great.
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...H/HT010431.jpg

sliding into place
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...H/HT010438.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...H/HT030428.jpg

Front Rocker bracket
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...H/4R300414.jpg
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...H/HT030449.jpg
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...H/HT030446.jpg

SpeedAssault 01.03.2010 11:03 PM

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The new body I plan on making. In researching forming Polycarbonate it looks like money and time wise I will make a PVC body first.

Here's what I am aiming for

littleazn248 01.04.2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nativepaul (Post 340337)
I cant say I think much of proline road rages, I bought a set for my buggy and to steal Gee's phrase it was like an elephant on stilts with them fitted, There very floppy and easily the worst on-road tyres I've used.

hehe well I'm really glad I didn't pick em up while I was over at my buds place he kindly donated a Hot Bodies Stadium Pro R to me along with a Futaba 3pj so I got my hands filled now Im just gonna sit back a see how speedassault does on his project

littleazn248 01.04.2010 10:56 PM

What tires where you using speed assault?

Overdriven 01.05.2010 12:30 AM

I could've sworn I've seen that body or one like it, in an online store from europe

brushlessboy16 01.05.2010 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Overdriven (Post 342239)
I could've sworn I've seen that body or one like it, in an online store from europe

HPI makes the escudo body for 10th scale IIRC

SpeedAssault 01.06.2010 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by littleazn248 (Post 342215)
What tires where you using speed assault?

Originally I used Sport works Auto cross tires, they did ok on 3s but it still burned out.
I'm now using FG wheels, machined hub to decrease the wheel offset.

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Originally Posted by Overdriven (Post 342239)
I could've sworn I've seen that body or one like it, in an online store from europe

In all my searching for a GTP or cool like body I have only found one
954 Mercedes -->http://www.bigboystoysandhobbies.com/bodies
and there's no way I would spend $175. on a plastic body.
I dont understand why they are not more widely used, espeacially now that they have semi truck race bodies :lol:


I have been researching to find a material to carve and form to but no luck yet.
Material looking at:
Polystyrene
polyurethane
blue foam
wood

Getting VERY ANXIOUS for a Sweet RACE BODY and went to town with foam and tape, just a rush job but damm I think it's going to look Badas$

WHat ya Think ?

thzero 01.06.2010 12:00 PM

Er, you realize that the bodies for the Baja 5T range from ~125 to like ~175? Just to put it in perspective.

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Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 342456)
Originally I used Sport works Auto cross tires, and there's no way I would spend $175. on a plastic body.


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Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 342456)
I have been researching to find a material to carve and form to but no luck yet.

Why not modeling clay? Start by using wood to take up most of the volume, then put the modeling clay on top of that and work into the shape. This is basically how they do clay models of full size vehicles. Probably easiest to do details, etc. with.

Then you can do a two-step mold on top of that, then use that mold to produce your final plug for use in the vacuum forming process.

This is what I've been toying with myself as I need to widen a SC8 body to fit my RC8T.

SpeedAssault 01.06.2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thzero (Post 342498)
Er, you realize that the bodies for the Baja 5T range from ~125 to like ~175? Just to put it in perspective.






Why not modeling clay? Start by using wood to take up most of the volume, then put the modeling clay on top of that and work into the shape. This is basically how they do clay models of full size vehicles. Probably easiest to do details, etc. with.

Then you can do a two-step mold on top of that, then use that mold to produce your final plug for use in the vacuum forming process.

This is what I've been toying with myself as I need to widen a SC8 body to fit my RC8T.

Hey that's a good idea, my wife suggested clay but I figured it would cost to much but using it on top of wood saves money.
I'll look into how much clay I'll need an the cost.
at the least I can go pick up some soft wood and start on my form.

:yipi:

thzero 01.06.2010 04:47 PM

My biggest problem is the vacuum forming. Thinnk that the sheet of Lexan I'll need is too big for an oven; I've found a fairly local company that does short runs with vacuum forming so I'm going to give them a call and see what the costs of doing a couple of shells will be.

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Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 342523)
I'll look into how much clay I'll need an the cost.
at the least I can go pick up some soft wood and start on my form.


SpeedAssault 01.06.2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thzero (Post 342545)
My biggest problem is the vacuum forming. Thinnk that the sheet of Lexan I'll need is too big for an oven; I've found a fairly local company that does short runs with vacuum forming so I'm going to give them a call and see what the costs of doing a couple of shells will be.

you can also use a BBQ or pick up a cheap-o small electric typ oven at wallmart.

Polycarb takes 370*

Kcaz25 01.08.2010 10:29 PM

I just fully understood how AWESOME and unique your motor mounting is!! I've been thinking about trying to find a way to mount a motor flat against a Maxx chassis on a CD like a 1/8th scale truggy. I love it!! Tell me more about your steering its so cool! That was before now the one thing that was keeping me front bolting my bulks and suspension to a truggy chassis. lol

SpeedAssault 01.09.2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 343075)
I just fully understood how AWESOME and unique your motor mounting is!! I've been thinking about trying to find a way to mount a motor flat against a Maxx chassis on a CD like a 1/8th scale truggy. I love it!! Tell me more about your steering its so cool! That was before now the one thing that was keeping me front bolting my bulks and suspension to a truggy chassis. lol

Hey thank you, although I should make a motor mount from aluminum and not Delrin.
not much to say about the steering.
I used HPI 1/8 steering towers, from that yellow corvette car, the height was right for my chassis upper rails and was 3mm screws.

I am now working on Front and rear sway bar system
using OFNA and MUgen parts.
so now The Rev-Osi is Emaxx, Revo, LOSI 8, HPI, MUgen and OFNA

SpeedAssault 02.03.2010 08:08 PM

UPDATES:
I tossed out the rear spool and put in 7k oil.
painted the wheels silver
Still working on the Sway bar system.

Took it for a spin and it drove really well :yes: until one rear axle shaft split open then the front wheels were unloading like crazy !

SO i need some stronger shafts as I see the joints are getting sloppy as well

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...H/SC030416.jpg

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/s...H/SC030420.jpg

thzero 02.03.2010 08:40 PM

Looks good. :)

littleazn248 02.04.2010 04:25 AM

nice love to see a video

SpeedAssault 02.05.2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thzero (Post 347595)
Looks good. :)

Thanks, it's a work in progress.
Just found the correct size Turnbuckles for the front and rear sway bar.
gota get them in, handles like poo without.


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Originally Posted by littleazn248 (Post 347679)
nice love to see a video

I swear I will get video :yes:, I got a couple minutes of run time Wed. but the rear axle shaft broke on me.
It was funny to see the front wheels unload under full power the Hard 1/5 wheels actually started to baloon in the middle.

Just picked up a new stock shaft and as soon as it stops Raining as is Dry I'll some video.

Thought about going to Traxxas Summit shafts they are beefy with metal CV joints.

??? ARE CV joints stronger or Hole up better than UNiversals ?

thanks

SpeedAssault 02.06.2010 10:20 PM

Ok,:party: I took it for a run , guess about 15 minutes worth, still Plenty of battery left, it was getting dark. It's been raining here but today dried things up fairly well but still slick, had a spin collision with the curb, broke 3mm shock bolt, battery got a little scratch, (I'm praying it didn't hit anything bad) also had a spin out and went up driveway and flipped over and kept rolling on the wheels.
No more breaks so things are looking good.
It's a LOUD scary Street Rocket !

It was a blast to drive, I can even DRIFT IT :mdr:
Handling is good even without rear sway bar.

No more driving until I build a Solid battery box .
I'll get that done and have the wifey do video :yes:


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