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suicideneil 03.14.2010 04:14 PM

'Robust' & 'sturdy' come to mind- good job dude, looks great.

Krawlin 03.19.2010 05:39 PM

Sorry for the lack up updates. I should have some pictures of it installed and some run time on it by this weekend.

The Dude 03.29.2010 12:20 PM

and.... where the pic's???:rules:

Krawlin 03.29.2010 12:54 PM

Been busy lately and haven't had the time. Maybe tomorrow afternoon if I am not doing anything before I have class.

Any updates on your conversion though?

The Dude 03.29.2010 02:21 PM

I'm waiting for a carbon sheet for the steering servo support
i have my motor, ESC , receiver box (from a RC10GT2) and the diff...
waiting for the drawing on SolidWork...:yipi:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010441.jpg

but I've got some other RC things to do in the same time (Rc18, Super crawler, mini crawler...):eyes:

The Dude 04.05.2010 11:33 AM

my sevo support is done !! :whistle:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010489.jpg

and you??? any update ?? :yes:

Krawlin 04.05.2010 11:41 PM

Good choice using carbon fiber, looks good!

No updates for mine though, been busy with my 1:1 truck lately. :great:

Krawlin 05.09.2010 05:43 PM

Maybe I should update this thread once in a while huh? :lol:


Not many major updates at all, but I am working on a cover for the transmission hole in the chassis that will hug the layout of the center diff, might give it a nice clean look. Currently I am installing a light kit on it, nothing special though, just a few headlights and maybe underglow... :mdr: Just depends on where I can route the wires to keep it looking really clean.


Any updates on your MGT "The Dude"?

The Dude 05.10.2010 01:28 AM

Hi

this a little update !! where's the pics ?? :whistle:

today I'm gonna work on the body

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010773.jpg

for the motor mount, I 'll have it this week... :yipi:

Krawlin 05.10.2010 10:53 AM

Awesome, looking forward to seeing the motor mount and paint job. :great:


I'll post some pictures of mine after I am finished with the light kit installation, its pretty messy right now, I'm still trying to get the wires routed out of sight and still look clean and not put them where they can get screwed up.

The Dude 05.11.2010 02:51 PM

just a pic from my friend.... but I must wait friday for have it.....:cry:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/IMG_0191.jpg

Chadworkz 05.11.2010 03:12 PM

That's a nice motor-mount!

suicideneil 05.11.2010 06:33 PM

Coooooool. Is it me, or does the motor mount part look like an owl thats been shot 5 times?...

Krawlin 05.12.2010 12:43 AM

That's awesome! Sure puts my motor mount to shame :lol:. Looking forward to seeing it installed. :yes:

The Dude 05.12.2010 01:51 PM

now it's really finish (I'm dreaming about teleportation...)

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9...193800x600.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/670...194800x600.jpg


It's not the same way, but I really have respect for your Home made work, it's more difficult for sure :yes:

but my MGT it's a hard basher, so I prefer to be sure about the motor, it's too expensive for replace it every week!! :lol:

this week I mount it... now just missing the Lipo, and the drive shaft :yipi:

Chadworkz 05.13.2010 12:25 AM

Very nice!!!

Krawlin 05.13.2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 364120)
now it's really finish (I'm dreaming about teleportation...)

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9...193800x600.jpg

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/670...194800x600.jpg


It's not the same way, but I really have respect for your Home made work, it's more difficult for sure :yes:

but my MGT it's a hard basher, so I prefer to be sure about the motor, it's too expensive for replace it every week!! :lol:

this week I mount it... now just missing the Lipo, and the drive shaft :yipi:

Wow, purely awesome to say the least.

And thanks! If I had access to a CNC mill then I would for sure have something made like yours, but since I only have access to a CNC plasma cutter, I have to stick to 2D stuff and weld. I may revise my motor mount yet again but in aluminum and TIG weld it, since I am taking a TIG welding class starting in August, just depends on how this one works out really.

I am also planning on getting some 7075-T6 aluminum sheet and making this a 100% top loading setup, where the center diff mount and motor mount bolt to the 7075-T6 sheet, which would drop down into the transmission hole and be secured to the bottom by 8 screws, which is stronger than my current setup. I might also just TIG weld a piece of 7075 to the bottom of the chassis and drill that, which would be stronger still.


Either way though, a machined mount is always going to look alot better than something home made, and I think your MGT pretty much out does mine as far as cool factor goes. :great:


EDIT: For drive shafts, at least a rear center shaft, if you position the motor mount forward enough, a Losi XXL center CVD should work, they are 5'' long including the CV cup end, which is pretty much the same length as what I have now. I plan on moving mine back just a bit though to use a 94mm Hot Bodies dog bone and then the Losi XXL center shaft, rather than my current setup with a 91mm dog bone and Mugen MBX5T center shaft with a MGT aluminum keyed CV end.

redshift 05.13.2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krawlin (Post 364342)
I might also just TIG weld a piece of 7075 to the bottom of the chassis and drill that, which would be stronger still.

Just a heads up, 7075 is generally not weldable, at least in any structural capacity- http://www.esabna.com/us/en/educatio...4-and-7075.cfm

And by the way, you have a wealth of info I never had access to online, do take advantage of that! You can be way ahead of the game when you start the course.

Nice mount there The Dude :yes:

Chadworkz 05.14.2010 01:00 AM

I have TIG welded 7075-T6 successfully on many different occasions, both thin and thick gauge, it just takes some time, practice, and getting used to. 7075 doesn't pool (puddle) like 6061 or other similar aluminum alloys (like 4042, 4052, 5052, etc.), and you can't stop & start. You have to start and then weld continuously for the entire seam/joint you are working on. If you stop, it can make it very difficult to start a new pool (start welding again) where you stopped, because the heat hardens the aluminum, raising the melting point of the aluminum right where you stopped, while remaining low just a couple inches away. If you do have to stop, it's best to start again from the other end, welding back toward where you stopped.

Krawlin 05.14.2010 08:42 PM

Thanks for the info redshift and Chadworkz. I will probably end up going with 6061-T6 anyway though to be honest, McMaster has a bigger selection of sizes in the 6061 grade.

The Dude 05.18.2010 06:58 AM

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010943.jpg

I must finish it for this week end... for a show here

for the drive shaft, my friend made it :yes:

I gonna try in 16/42 .... :neutral:( what do you think about ??)

Kcaz25 05.18.2010 01:54 PM

42? WOW I didn't know they made them that small? Where can I find one? Looks great of course! 42/16 seems MIGHTY fast to me!

Krawlin, sounds good!

The Dude 05.18.2010 02:45 PM

It's a X-Ray center diff

ok I gonna put a 13T pinion.... Thanks:yes:

Krawlin 05.19.2010 12:38 AM

Even 13/42 is going to be really high for the MGT. It's diff's use a typical buggy ring/pinion tooth count as far as I know, its pretty high up there, like 43/13 for the ring and pinion. I run 9/51 and 10/51 for my pinion/spur gears, anything more and it's too fast for my tastes. I made a video of it with 13/51, and it flies, so unless you have a lower Kv motor than mine (I have a 1550Kv on 6S), you are going to be hitting some really high speeds.

That looks awesome though man, really nice setup. But we need more pictures!!! :mdr:

JThiessen 05.19.2010 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadworkz (Post 364412)
I have TIG welded 7075-T6 successfully on many different occasions, both thin and thick gauge, it just takes some time, practice, and getting used to. 7075 doesn't pool (puddle) like 6061 or other similar aluminum alloys (like 4042, 4052, 5052, etc.), and you can't stop & start. You have to start and then weld continuously for the entire seam/joint you are working on. If you stop, it can make it very difficult to start a new pool (start welding again) where you stopped, because the heat hardens the aluminum, raising the melting point of the aluminum right where you stopped, while remaining low just a couple inches away. If you do have to stop, it's best to start again from the other end, welding back toward where you stopped.

You can get 7075 to stick together, and make the welds "look" good, but you have all the structural strength of a piece of plastic - may as well use double backed tape. I've torn off 70 series weldments with a prybar that looked perfect.

Chadworkz 05.19.2010 10:31 AM

May I ask if you are a certified welder, or just someone who welds on occasion?

The Dude 05.19.2010 11:04 AM

I've got a 1800Kv motor..... I'm trying to find a 48T spur gear... and a 10T pinion. I gonna adjust with the test...:neutral:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krawlin (Post 365440)
That looks awesome though man, really nice setup. But we need more pictures!!! :mdr:

just some pics of this afternoon :yes:


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010991.jpg


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010976.jpg


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010983.jpg


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010970.jpg


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010967.jpg


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...g?t=1274285355

this is not the definitive screw....
missing the lipo but I'm waiting for the postman ...

but and your truck ??? where's the pics ??? :whistle:

JThiessen 05.19.2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadworkz (Post 365496)
May I ask if you are a certified welder, or just someone who welds on occasion?

Formerly, now I do the design and inspection.

ps. It has nothing to do with your abilities - just like welding steel to aluminum. Once 70 series is heated to the molten point, it loses its chemical structure, and does not come back.

Krawlin 05.19.2010 06:23 PM

I keep forgetting. Once my batteries are charged I will get some pictures, I think... :lol:

suicideneil 05.19.2010 08:19 PM

Beautiful, thats an emaxx killer if ever I saw one :yes:

rawfuls 05.19.2010 08:41 PM

The Dude-

Dang, that's a nice ride!
That'd poop all over my EMaxx..

Fast5sRevo88 05.20.2010 12:41 PM

Reckon it has room for batteries though?

Krawlin 05.20.2010 03:50 PM

That's the great thing about the MGT, lots of room for batteries. The side guards are perfect, just need a couple straps and some standoffs to keep the batteries in place and a clean look.

Krawlin 05.20.2010 07:29 PM

I have another idea for a design change to my motor mount, but it's going to be really unique IMO, I've never seen it done to any on this forum or any others for that matter. A hint though, it will probably look strange but cool, and I am taking a "suspended" approach.

Hopefully that's enough to keep you guys guessing for a while. I am going to wait until I finish this re-design before I take any pictures though, so it will be quite a transformation from the last pictures of the truck's motor mount setup.

rawfuls 05.20.2010 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krawlin (Post 365857)
i have another idea for a design change to my motor mount, but it's going to be really unique imo, i've never seen it done to any on this forum or any others for that matter. A hint though, it will probably look strange but cool, and i am taking a "suspended" approach.

Hopefully that's enough to keep you guys guessing for a while. I am going to wait until i finish this re-design before i take any pictures though, so it will be quite a transformation from the last pictures of the truck's motor mount setup.

ooh ooh i know what it is

The Dude 05.21.2010 05:01 AM

another reason to forget the pics ???:lol:

but I'm curious to see want it done :yes:

(I've just receive my lipo :yipi:)

The Dude 05.23.2010 02:55 PM

just some pics with the run test (but not the race cause my "real" car is broken down...)
and.... :oh::surprised::eyes::gasp:
I gonna buy a 9T pinion

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1020013.jpg


http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1020009.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1020016.jpg

Kcaz25 05.23.2010 04:05 PM

HAHA yeah what ratio did you go with for this bash? And just think you were going to try 16/42! lol Looks good!

The Dude 05.23.2010 04:25 PM

I was in 13/48 ratio
but the MMM was a little too hot at my taste..:neutral:

16/42...... maybe if I becoming mad:lol:

Kcaz25 05.23.2010 09:32 PM

Yeah a 9t should bring those temps under control reallll good. lol I'm glad you changed the last picture its a good one. How was the handling?


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