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_dV 04.03.2010 08:33 PM

Th BP diffs don't make it easy to get an appropriate gear reduction. In my center diff conversion i'm going to try BPs + 46 spur + 16-17 pinion + Tekin 1350kV + 5s

Bondonutz 04.05.2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _dV (Post 358665)
Th BP diffs don't make it easy to get an appropriate gear reduction. In my center diff conversion i'm going to try BPs + 46 spur + 16-17 pinion + Tekin 1350kV + 5s

Do you know the gearing of the BP diffs, If not I'll go look for it. Thanks.

thzero 04.05.2010 02:22 PM

29/9

Not very far off from the 43/13 of the standard ones, i.e. 3.2 vs 3.3.

1350 on 5S might be a tad low in the rpm department. I'm looking at going with the 1.5y wind 1800 CN for a center diff conversion and like a 50/13 (could go with a 46/12 too) for target of about 45 with ProLine Badlands.

Good source of info.
http://scriptasylum.com

Also I should note that truggy diffs should probably drop right in with some shimming. I didn't fully test it, but I dropped in my RC8T diffs into the Savage bulkhead and with some minor shimming it rolled true. Didn't do anything to check the bevel gear for fitting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 358909)
Do you know the gearing of the BP diffs, If not I'll go look for it. Thanks.


Bondonutz 04.05.2010 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 358913)
29/9

Not very far off from the 43/13 of the standard ones, i.e. 3.2 vs 3.3.

1350 on 5S might be a tad low in the rpm department. I'm looking at going with the 1.5y wind 1800 CN for a center diff conversion and like a 50/13 (could go with a 46/12 too) for target of about 45 with ProLine Badlands.

Good source of info.
http://scriptasylum.com

Also I should note that truggy diffs should probably drop right in with some shimming. I didn't fully test it, but I dropped in my RC8T diffs into the Savage bulkhead and with some minor shimming it rolled true. Didn't do anything to check the bevel gear for fitting.

AH, I see BrianG's new version of his page and it's awesome. I also had no idea he's added the BP diffs to the speed calc,sweet.
Thanks !

_dV 04.05.2010 06:04 PM

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1350 on 5S might be a tad low in the rpm department.
If i plug my values into (using the 1350kV motor, 17 pinion) Brian G's calc i get 51.98 mph (83.5 km/h) which is in the ballpark for 5s. Definitely enough rpm for top speed. Are there any other issues with slower motors?

I wanted to stay away from smaller pinions so i have just opted for a larger one but with a slower motor.

I did consider truggy diffs but thought i would try this first. They would make it possible to use a faster motor and a decent sized pinion but i'd like to try and avoid the extra cost. With Vorza\RC8 heavy duty spiral diffs (43/10) i could use a 46 spur, 19 pinion and 1550kV for 49.99 mph (80.29 km/h)

thzero 04.05.2010 06:28 PM

Other item to consider is that is some pretty serious rollout. Be interesting to see what your temps of your esc/battery/motor are.

Btw, the RC8 diffs are 43/13s just like the standard Savage so you wouldn't really gain anything from switching to those. Looks as if the Vorza (and D8), after looking at the manual, and RC8T are 43/10 diffs would give you more gear reduction. Although most truggy diffs, including the Vorza/D8, their bevel gear is attached to a cvd joint instead of just a dogbone. Someone suggested to me in another thread about the amongst other truggies... someone recommended the HotBodies/HPI Lightning Stadium Pro to me as they attach to dogbones, not CVDs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by _dV (Post 358949)
If i plug my values into (using the 1350kV motor, 17 pinion) Brian G's calc i get 51.98 mph (83.5 km/h) which is in the ballpark for 5s. Definitely enough rpm for top speed. Are there any other issues with slower motors?

I wanted to stay away from smaller pinions so i have just opted for a larger one but with a slower motor.

I did consider truggy diffs but thought i would try this first. They would make it possible to use a faster motor and a decent sized pinion but i'd like to try and avoid the extra cost. With Vorza\RC8 heavy duty spiral diffs (43/10) i could use a 46 spur, 19 pinion and 1550kV for 49.99 mph (80.29 km/h)


rtoc 04.08.2010 01:14 AM

From the pics, it doesn't appear that Flux boxes are mountable this with kit. Can anyone confirm my suspicion?

It's a bummer that the rear support of the motor mount does not fit with larger motors. Have anyone of you had motor movement from bad crashes or landings?

Nard Cox 04.08.2010 03:27 AM

Confirmed. That's the + for my of this kit, no more annoying battery boxes but the LiPo nice and safe inside the TVP's. You might be able to mod it to fit the battery box though.

No motor movement here, steady as a rock.

rtoc 04.11.2010 06:04 AM

Thanks for the info.

I don't really like the idea of dremeling up an expensive brand new kit.

Where would I buy replacement center drive shafts?

suicideneil 04.12.2010 03:42 PM

Mike custom makes driveshafts, there should be a listng in the rc-m shop.

rtoc 04.19.2010 02:59 PM

Are there any other reliable places to purchase this kit?

It's out-of-stock at the RCM store. Anyone know how long it takes the owner to restock FLM stuff?

Nard Cox 04.19.2010 04:56 PM

Send Mike an email ;)

Nard Cox 04.22.2010 05:39 AM

Made a small jumping video again for anyone who might be interested. it's my Flux XL together with my RC8Te.

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rtoc 04.22.2010 11:32 AM

Beautiful house you have there.

That pond is a little too close for comfort.

Nard Cox 04.22.2010 11:36 AM

I still live with mommy and daddy but yeah, it's not bad :)

On the end when the dog is chasing it gets pretty close huh. The night after this I even dreamd (or actually it was more of a nightmare) that I jumped the flux in the middel of the pond, not funny !

Man was I relieved to see my Flux nice and dry that morning after.


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