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BrianG 11.02.2010 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 386259)
...That's the important thing -- gear it right.

Why some people STILL don't get this is beyond me...

bruce750i 11.02.2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferret (Post 386229)
What motors was "the crowd" running?

I don't know? That would be a useful bit of info. I would say 10.5's or so, nothing 4-pole, yet.:party:

Ferret 11.03.2010 04:47 AM

You don't need a 4-pole to pull away from 10.5's, any cm36 would easly outpower them.

ta_man 11.03.2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 386259)
The SCT would be fine in a 3S Rustler type setup AS LONG AS the gearing was setup appropriately.

That's the important thing -- gear it right.

I destroyed a Rustler trans with the 1410 on 2S in less than half a battery pack (still had plastic diff gear). I can't imagine what 3S, geared right, would do to the trans. Maybe a mushroom cloud?:oh:

hootie7159 11.04.2010 04:50 AM

Hey Patrick...can we get some specs on the sidewinder sct esc? Thx!

ChrisAttebery 11.04.2010 12:12 PM

He said earlier in the thread that it is very close to the original Mamba Max. The MM was rated at 100 amps continuous. He has also said that it can handle 3s with some care.

AL3xGR 11.04.2010 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bruce750i (Post 386160)
I raced with the 1410 3800kv in my MMP sc10 this last weekend in the open 2wd. It was a blast pulling away from the crowd down the straight. I ran a 3s 3000mah through it after the races with the same gearing and the motor temp shot all the way up to 130*F :mdr:. Thanks Castle for another great product,TQ and the win!

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...h_DSC08916.jpg

How many minutes did you ran?(With the 3s battery)

bruce750i 11.04.2010 03:44 PM

About ten minutes.

AL3xGR 11.06.2010 05:01 AM

I need some help here : http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28499

AL3xGR 11.09.2010 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bruce750i (Post 386570)
About ten minutes.

Could you make any video with the 2s and the 3s battery?
Also,what gearing did you had?(Top speed?)

DoogieLee 11.12.2010 09:52 PM

I finally got around to installing mine this week in my Slash 4x4.

I had to re solder some 4mm bullets to the MMP, I sold the Sidewinder ESC at the track Saturday, so I never ran it with that ESC.

I started off with the gearing at 15/54
Start Power Medium
High timing
100% max fwd

Turnigy 5200mah, 30c 2s

WOW!!
This thing rips!
Way more balls off the bottom than the Velineon with the same gearing and ESC settings, had no trouble pulling the wheels up from dead stops or a slow roll...
ran about 15-20 minutes on the street in front of my house, few trips through mine and the neighbors yard chasing curious cats.
Motor temps at 119 and esc at 109, ambient temps around 70's

So...
I took it back to the lab, threw my 19t pinion in it, jacked the timing up to highest, and start power to high,
grabbed a fresh battery ( same specs) and then zip tied my GPS to it for a speed run.

These are the same specs I used with a 3200mah 3s battery to get 61.9 before on my Velineon, this setup on a 2s I got 49.8!

I cant wait to get the Deans connector soldered on my 3s, I used to use TRX connectors on everything, im in the process of getting all my batts switched over.

I think i'll break 70 with the 3s,
I wont get to run it on the track this weekend, as I have to work, but I should be able to get it out there sometime next week.

Bottom line, go buy one!
Throw the Velineon setup on eBay and buy this already!

Thomas Porfert 11.12.2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DoogieLee (Post 387351)
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I cant wait to get the Deans connector soldered on my 3s, I used to use TRX connectors on everything, im in the process of getting all my batts switched over.

I think i'll break 70 with the 3s,
I wont get to run it on the track this weekend, as I have to work, but I should be able to get it out there sometime next week.

Just remember this system not rated or intended to run in a 4x4 short course on 3s. Doing so runs the risk of burning up the motor and voiding the warranty. Please do so at your own risk. If you decide to go this route, just keep the run times short and keep a very close on the motor temps. Set the timing advance to lowest, start with a conservative gear ratio and run some torque limit to minimize amp draw and heat. Good luck, and glad to hear you like it!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support.

DoogieLee 11.12.2010 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 387366)
Just remember this system not rated or intended to run in a 4x4 short course on 3s. Doing so runs the risk of burning up the motor and voiding the warranty. Please do so at your own risk. If you decide to go this route, just keep the run times short and keep a very close on the motor temps. Set the timing advance to lowest, start with a conservative gear ratio and run some torque limit to minimize amp draw and heat. Good luck, and glad to hear you like it!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support.

So, would it be safe to assume that the new Short Course Motor will be the one to use with 3s in a 4x4 SC?
I'll just keep this one on 2s for now...
Keep up the good work!

Arct1k 11.12.2010 11:56 PM

No the SCT motor is 2s in a 4x4 - They are saying use the 1415/12 IIRC for 3S.

DoogieLee 11.13.2010 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 387371)
No the SCT motor is 2s in a 4x4 - They are saying use the 1415/12 IIRC for 3S.

I should've clairified, I meant the new motors, which I believe are the 1415/12 you mentioned.
Not the one that comes in the Sidewinder SCT Combo


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