-Off topic- It's 20 years for a pharmaceutical patent from the date of filing BEFORE clinical trials begin. So after clinical trials, it's effectively about 7-12 years.

-Begin Rant- Using a practice called collusion, pharmaceutical companies will pay generic manufacturers NOT to produce a generic version after the 20 year patent so they can continue to sell it at full price under their brand name. They actually sue them first, and the legal costs are so great, it forces the generic manufacturers to go to the bargaining table where they are then paid to hold off on production. It costs the big pharma companies much less to pay off the other manufacturers to not produce the generic drug and continue to reap the profits from selling the overpriced brand name. There's was supposed to be a bill going through Congress to put a stop to this, but last I heard it was stalled.
-End Rant-

Sorry, not really on topic, but I feel strongly about this subject and most people don't realize what is happening.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Thomas I agree with you on that one. Wish we could get some stricter laws regarding drug advertising here like they have in Canada. If companies aren't spending millions on advertising that gets passed down to the consumer too. Besides I really don't want to here about depression, erectile disfunction, bladder problems and the myriad of side effects the drugs that supposedly cure these have while eating dinner.

Back on topic. I've never bought from hk or any overseas distributor and don't plan to start. I'll also never buy a clone. I've always believed in supporting the little guys at the lhs first, then guys like Mike, then maybe amain. Even though most lhs buy from great planes (tower), I'll never buy direct from them. Not going to cut out my lhs and they give me better deals anyway. Oh yeah, CC rocks!

259 eruo???

Looks like 310.47 to me ===> 410 bucks!
But at the same time, nearly double the cell count of the MambaXL.

Im siding with Castle, nobody can beat their customer service and reliability of their ESCs. Remember your old mamba max 4s setups on your 8th conversions? Let's see a 10th scale Chinese esc do that.

Freddy, where have you seen it for 259€.

Comparable 8s, 140a costs 225 EUR -> 295$.


Dejan

its prob with local taxes, go to the index page and chose a country outside eu and it will be listed as EUR 259.

edit. sorry for this off topic stuff

Yeah.

I'm inside EU.

Dejan

But the MGM is like Schulze ....
Not in in the same league as Castle ! When it comes to "Userfriendly" and "Support"

We will dumped an 32.200 Schulze and havn't talked about a MGM for our projects, because Castle will have what we need (XL XL HV)


Chinese can copy, what they want, I'm not going to buy it !:diablo:

In Canada when you buy Medication you have a choice of either the Generic brand or name brand medications.I believe the Canadian government doesn't/didn`t allow this kinda a thing and when I get medication it`s 99% of the time it`s the generic brand.

On the Topic of the thread, Glad you guys are on the case, Hope you can stop them. As for the Lipo's, I might buy them since they have a U.S.A warehouse. As for the knock-offs, I will never buy one, Unless there is enough difference to be almost completely stand alone on it's own (Like the recent 4wd 5b/t ones). Good luck on stopping this copy.

I don't see a problem for CC link.
It's a simple usb serial converter.
I have FMA, Hyperion links they looks all same.
Most of those chips have the same components usage.
Ps Hyperion link see my MMM esc, but the CC software doesn't see the Hyperion link.

Still sad, they have there own line of esc's and still copy another company's

I was reading on some forum, that chinese "deans" that copied Deans where actually better than original Deans.


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MGM support is very good.
Repair cost for MGM 16025 esc was 70€, they shipped fast, never had a problem with support...same as CC, they always shipped fast and did what they could to make customer happy!! So MGM is a very good company- very good!

What if a chinese copy of a CC esc would actually prove to be Good ?
I would buy it for half of the price CC esc is.

Personally i wait for Mamba XL but it is taking to long..... if it comes in a month or so than great if not i am buying MGM X series as it can be waterproofed "all conditions resistant" !!

kinda taking it back a few days here, but what do they have that is traxxas, spektrum, or futaba cloned? I'll admit these do look castleish, but not seen anything on the others.

junkman hobbyking have cloned TRX connectors and also clone Futaba and Spektrum Rx but not the surface ones. Yet.

Is a rx that is compatible with futaba and spektrum cloning? How is it any different from novak, tekin, dynamite, making rx's that were compatible with futaba, airtronics, and jr, 20 years ago? I don't remember anyone thinking twice about it back then. I had forgotten about the trx connectors. I do wonder why none of the china companies clone traxxas stuff? I'd say it is one of the most popular selling brands. They clone the 5b, couple tamiya cars, but not a revo, or slash 4x4, and there is some reason, curious to why that is. To knez I'd take the hc deans over the real ones anyday, and I really blame this one on deans. The hc have the ribs and are easier to unplug, and don't loose their springyness near as quick as the real deal. I have replaced several real ones with the hc's because they were wore out. Why deans doesn't update theirs, or at least lower their price for not having these features I have no idea. I am not trying to come off all pro-china here. I do buy quality stuff, have 5 mmm, 3mm, 3 mamba 25's, and a bunch of motors, and they are geat products. For what they can do, and the price of a mmm, I do not think they can be beat.