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BlackedOutREVO 12.17.2007 08:50 PM

Looks nice!

whats the cell count on them?

aqwut 12.17.2007 08:59 PM

Lutach, ESC is automatic Cell Detection/Cut off... So that's a failed unit....? that sucks man... I saw this thread come back, and I was hoping everything was a go... LOL

lutach 12.17.2007 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 135341)
Looks nice!

whats the cell count on them?

It can handle 2-4S lipos and it is 120A. I was told to keep it at 2S though. Kind of strange, but I will use it in my TC3 with 3S to see how it will do.

lutach 12.17.2007 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aqwut (Post 135344)
Lutach, ESC is automatic Cell Detection/Cut off... So that's a failed unit....? that sucks man... I saw this thread come back, and I was hoping everything was a go... LOL

This is from a different place. The HV ones will hopefully get done some time next year and I'm really :diablo: about it. This one is the 120A version and they have a 90A and a 60A, but the 60A will be sensorless only and the other 2 will be sensored or sensorless. I'm reading the e-mail now and it claims the 120A, 90A and 60A can handle 2-4S lipos, but I should only use 2S. I'll go 3S and see if the controller handles that. I assume it will auto detect the cells and the cutoff can be set with the program box. I don't want to say much until the controller is here, which will be tomorrow (maybe). What should I do to the UPS driver though :whistle:?

lutach 12.17.2007 10:12 PM

Tracked the package and it says, "12/17/2007 8:41 P.M. THE PACKAGE IS DELAYED DUE TO EMERGENCY CONDITIONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL
12/17/2007 1:15 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY".

Matthew_Armeni 12.17.2007 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 135358)
Tracked the package and it says, "12/17/2007 8:41 P.M. THE PACKAGE IS DELAYED DUE TO EMERGENCY CONDITIONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL
12/17/2007 1:15 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY".

I guess the driver wanted to go home! :lol:

lutach 12.18.2007 04:47 PM

I finally got it. Here are the specs:

120A Continuous (720A burst)
0.0003ohm
39g (without wires)
Sensored/Sensoreless Brushless Motor and Brushed Motor
Brushless Motor with 2.5T and up
2-4 cell lipo Brushless/2 cell lipo Brushed
BEC 6V/2A
Fan
Low Voltage, Over-Heat, Signal Loss and Locked Rotor Protection
The Brake is Proportional ABS

Now the program box has the following:

1. Running Mode:
(1) Forward/Brake
(2) Forward/Brake/Reverse
2. Drag Brake Force:
(1) 0%
(2) 5%
(3) 10%
(4) 15%
(5) 20%
(6) 25%
(7) 30%
(8) 40%
3. Low Voltage Cut-Off:
(1) None
(2) 2.6V/Cell
(3) 2.8V/Cell
(4) 3.0V/Cell
(5) 3.2V/Cell
(6) 3.4V/Cell
4. Start Mode:
(1) Soft
(2) Normal
(3) Aggressive
(4) Very Aggressive
5. Brake Force:
(1) 25%
(2) 50%
(3) 75%
(4) 100%
6. Reverse Force:
(1) 25%
(2) 50%
(3) 75%
(4) 100%
7. Initial Brake Force:
(1) Drag Brake Force
(2) 0
(3) 20%
(4) 40%
8. Neutral Range:
(1) 6%
(2) 9%
(3) 12%
9. Timing:
(1) 0°
(2) 3.75°
(3) 7.5°
(4) 11.25°
(5) 15°
(6) 18.75°
(7) 22.5°
(8)26.25°
10. Motor Type:
(1) Brushless Motor
(2) Brushed Motor With Reverse
(3) Brushed Motor Forward/Brake Only
11. Over-Heat Protection:
(1) 95°C
(2) Disabled

All of it looks very impressive. The only problem I see is with the fan. It is rated for up to 7.2V and the slot to put the fan is connected directly to the battery, so you can only use 6 cell NiCD or 2 cell Lipo. I will add a connector to have it run from the 3rd channel. I will do the initial tests with 3 cell lipo in my TC3. I can't take pics now, because I have no clue where my camera is.

snellemin 12.18.2007 05:02 PM

Features look great. I like the timing, Locked Rotor Protection and the overheat protection feature. When can I test one in my dragracing rustler..hehhehehe. I'm pushing/killing my mamba esc with 6s1p A123 at the moment.

sleebus.jones 12.18.2007 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 135349)
It can handle 2-4S lipos and it is 120A.

Seems like they are kinda balking at the higher voltages. Come one 6S (or more!)

Sleeb

lutach 12.18.2007 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 135481)
Features look great. I like the timing, Locked Rotor Protection and the overheat protection feature. When can I test one in my dragracing rustler..hehhehehe. I'm pushing/killing my mamba esc with 6s1p A123 at the moment.

Let me see how this one handles in my TC3 and I'll even try it in the truck with the Neu 1521.

lutach 12.18.2007 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleebus.jones (Post 135484)
Seems like they are kinda balking at the higher voltages. Come one 6S (or more!)

Sleeb

I originally asked for something that can handle 12S lipos, but they want to see if their is a market for this one first. They said they can make a HV controller, but I have to see one first before I can say anything about it.

mwry13 12.18.2007 05:30 PM

When do you think they will be availible? i think my competition buggy needs something like that ^_^

lutach 12.18.2007 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mwry13 (Post 135489)
When do you think they will be availible? i think my competition buggy needs something like that ^_^

I will contact the factory today to see if they how many they have ready, but I will have to spank this one a little to see if they will handle the abuse.

sleebus.jones 12.18.2007 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 135488)
I originally asked for something that can handle 12S lipos, but they want to see if their is a market for this one first. They said they can make a HV controller, but I have to see one first before I can say anything about it.

I think they're going to be disappointed if they think they're going to make any sort of major sales in the 2S - 4S category. I think that's pretty much locked up by castle, IMHO. Personally I think the opportunities start in the 5S and up category. The ones that are available for that voltage level are downright pricy. I'd love to run big cell counts, but I really don't feel like dropping $400 on an ESC, if ya know what I mean. Seeing the OEMRC sentilion 12S controller for under $100 gives me hope. Too bad it's not usable in cars (well, you can with mechanical brakes, but I don't have a rig with those).

The one you've got looks pretty cool. I love the external programming box, much better than dragging a darn laptop to the track.

I look forward to further developments!

lutach 12.18.2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleebus.jones (Post 135492)
I think they're going to be disappointed if they think they're going to make any sort of major sales in the 2S - 4S category. I think that's pretty much locked up by castle, IMHO. Personally I think the opportunities start in the 5S and up category. The ones that are available for that voltage level are downright pricy. I'd love to run big cell counts, but I really don't feel like dropping $400 on an ESC, if ya know what I mean. Seeing the OEMRC sentilion 12S controller for under $100 gives me hope. Too bad it's not usable in cars (well, you can with mechanical brakes, but I don't have a rig with those).

The one you've got looks pretty cool. I love the external programming box, much better than dragging a darn laptop to the track.

I look forward to further developments!

I mentioned the same thing to them. I told them that a controller for car that can handle 12S lipos would be the right thing to try now, but they made this one. I will ask them to make a HV one and see what they say.


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