Hey mike. THe winding you said you think i scuffed. It must have been on them because they are all twisted up in side. I don't think they supposed to look like a rainbow. You think it is junk.

If you every have anyone mike that knocked the end out of motor. I put a small dab of glue on it. It held up much better. Never come out until I knocked it out again.

Hard to say without seeing it.

It is not much doubt in my mind mike. They are not consistant. They have a bad bow in the middle. I has cracks in between the windings to. I think it is toast.

It is normal for the coating on the internal windings to seemingly be "cracked". If the coating is worn away or discolored, there is likely a problem, though.

The winding them selves are all messed up. The look like a snake cause of the curves. It is not the same through the whole motor. They are different form side to side. The timing can't be right cause the winds will engage at different times on different parts of the shaft. If you know what I mean.

Can you shoot a detailed photo?

This is what a bigmaxximum looks like;

http://www.serum.demon.nl/bigmaxx/biggie.JPG

sure can't serum. I have trashed it. It was mussed. Not a doubt in my mind. It looked like you took and twisted the winding in one spot.

Hey, I completly missed this thread. Was a good read.
I can guess your 7XL on 22/66 was insane...I run mine on much lower gearing and still get insane speed.

Anyhow, here's how my dead 9L looked. Not the windings died, but the magnet split, as some might remember

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/duffnee/BL_3.jpg

thanks for the picture, Daf. The grey color on the windings is likely due to the rotor rubbing on them when it split.
Coolhandcountry - The motor has no timing. The controller does the timing on a sensorless system.

You see How the windings are in daf's motor that is what they look like only worse with out the grey. If the windings are not where they supposed to be. Then the Force on the rotor will be applied at wrong time. Thus throwing the timing out. If some of the winding starts to push the rotor and the rest has not come close. You know me means.

Do the windings move inside the can(can you spin them?)?

I not going to worry with it mike. I took rotor out. Pitched the rest. It was touch the rotor some. So it was wrong some where. I just buy a new one. Just have to figure out what i going to get this time.

I can get the 6xl, 7xl or 8xl. No 9xl at the moment.

Is that the fieago or what there mike? And what is the damge.(aka Price)