ok guys, I got both my controllers back as well updated USBCOM and cc03 cable
not that they just updated the firmware but they also cleaned them up and they got new layer of that smelly waterproofing stuff.
I will let you know tomorrow how the controllers work

MMMMMMM, smelly waterproofing stuff. :lol:

Hope to hear good things!

now its officially in user manual that with USBCOM++ version 3.00 and later you can upgrade firmware in ECS. instructions should be shortly on MGM website

also it should be possible to update the UNICARD if its version 2.30 and later

I receibed my new 9032 with 3.21 firmware changing my bad 12018 that has instant braking.:

This is my case:
bought a 12018 esc 2 months ago, the esc did instant bracking, like someone has too here, I sed 1 mail, answered 1 dai after, ok, the 2nd mail from me to they.. last 5 days.
they "change" my 12018 for a 9032 one, paying the difference ( plus upgraded usbcom +, ccc03, and programming card)

I receibed it on wednesday, i soldered connectors and I DOESN'T WORK, the green light near the capacitors that lights when you connect the lipos... DONT LIGHT, it can be programed by pc or by programming card, but it doesn't work, I can't calibrate the esc with the radio.
I tryed with my 3pk with different spektrums, with 40Mhz FM, and also with a perfex 27Mhz, but it doesn't work.
I tryed with and without bec, with battery receiber, with neu, feigao, mamba max, motors bot NOTHING.

I sended to mg 1 e-mail wednesday night, thursday sended other, today I sended one more to ALL the e-mail I had from them but.. NO ANSWER.

Y pay more than 300€ (like 450$ by the money change), for an esc that not work. and they dont answer me nothing.

Also I sended a video showing the NO-operation of the esc.

Can someone tell me what's happening with MGM?

Sorry about my bad english, I'm from Spain, my english is very bad and I am very angry and disappointed.

thanks for reading.

fast? YES. I removed the conversation as it's in czech

From: Radek Schutz
To: 'Ing. G. Dvorský'
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: update firmware regulatoru


From: Ing. G. Dvorský [mailto:mgm@mgm-compro.cz]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:33 PM
To: Radek Schutz
Subject: Re: update firmware regulatoru


From: Radek Schutz
To: 'Ing. G. Dvorský'
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 12:00 PM
Subject: update firmware regulatoru

I'm done with MGM. It took 6 e-mails for them to finally reply that they never received my ESC ($400 lost in the mail). They also never said anything about the USBCom needing an upgrade in all the previous e-mails about the software problems. I notice that David and Bash-On were also never told about the USBCom upgrade being necessary. The language barrier and the out of country service are real downers. I hope the MMM is released soon. For everyone else, wait a bit and avoid the MGM, unless you live overseas.

maxx spent today over 5 hours on the track (sorry no pics as the track was very dry a dusty - had dust even of my shades)

had to resync radio with ESC everytime i changed motor (align and neu) otherwise truck would not brake - quite strange as i never had braking issues with previous firmware, but once i got the ESC to brake, brakes were as good as before

As i forgot my eagle tree cant comment the cutoff as i suspect batteries and not the ESC, but with Cutoff set to Reduce RPM and i got 8014mAh from my trueRC packs. With cut off set to CUT power I got about 6000mAh but need to try with eagletree to see how the packs are doing.

I did cut a hole in side of the body so ESC had some airflow and ESC stayed quite cool.

Further progress with my mgm 9032 (3.21)
 

I have news...

Mgm replyed to me and I made a video showing the issues I had, and they asked on saturday, yes, on weekend.
Today thanks to my video they told me the solution for my non working mgm 9032.

Now I have it working,..... BUT it doesnt work 100% ok.

I explain:
I have some issues like..

1.- I have to power up it 2 or 3 times to make it work, if not, it dont do the "beep".

2.- It only brake correctly with 2 pole motors (like feigao), with 4 pole (neu) or 6 pole ( Align 600xl) it does the Fu...ng glitchs (instant braking), and dont brake, it accelerates more!!

3.- also with 2 pole motors, as I say it work well, it glitchs a little.. just until you make full throttle and full brake, THEN and ONLY THEN... it works PERFECT, but with 4 or more poles it doesnt work :(

So...

as a 3s to 10s esc for feigao motors... WORKS (with some inconvenients)
as a 3s to 10s esc for 4 or more pole motors... you only can use it as only forward and reverse, not for braking, if you set as no braking it will work ok, but if you set some braking.. it will accelerate.

this are my progress to have a full working esc.

I'm waiting a response from mgm to know what to do. IMO It's only a SW issue that can be solved with a new version of the firmware,

as I have the 3.21 firmware, and CC-03 cable.. I can upgrade, If they give me the new firmware.

That is my problem then as I'm trying my 16024 with a Neu 1521. I like the Neu and I really don't want to put my Hacker ION-X in my truck. If they come out with a new SW that works, I'll send not only the 16024, but the 16016 as it just stopped working for some reason when I switched to Spektrum.

Just got the 16018 back with the new 3.21 software. No issues with braking so far. Have set the car to forward and brake only. Running on 5s. The cut-off issues have also been eliminated. :)

I sended this morning my 9032 that doesnt brake well anyway, and this 9032 reemplaced a 12018 that doesn't worked, so....
In 2-3 weeks I'll tell you if I have or not my first mgm runing without any issue.

Im very dissapointed whith mgm escs, I had 2, 2 didn't worked. Mgm support is Ok for now.

Great to ear!! Hope that mine will run as fine as your's. But i use the mechanical brake on my revo, so i'll not test the brake anyway.

I suppose to recieve mine this week:tongue:

Which radio you use fkadir??? a normal FM or a 2.4?
Me i use a Futaba 2.4 FASST 3PM.

Can anyone who has the latest firmware confirm that the issue with using a Futaba radio in "HRS" mode has been resolved. For those that don't know the older speed controls would not recognise the HRS signal and you would have to change the modulation to PPM or PCM.

Regards Andrew

Im using the Airtronics M11 with the 2.4Ghz module. Hope yours comes in soon. :)

The HRS mode is usefull only if you run digital servos
If you use normal servos, donK't use HRS mode or you'll smoke your servos.
And if you have digital servo, you can run in PPM mode and all will be fine with the MGM:intello:

Thanks David. Is there anyone that can confirm the new firmware works with HRS?

Regards Andrew

Ok it looks like the low voltage cutoff was fixed with sw update from reading above, but has the freak mgm braking thing been fixed? I still having problems with freak mgm braking and I want to send mine in, just want to make sure "both" problems will be fixed...do we need to call mgm or just send it in with note?...

Send an email to Grisa from MGM. This is his email mgm@mgm-compro.cz Can't answer your question about the braking issues sorry.

Cheers Andrew

Just curious, what mail service does MGM use to send your controller back to you in the US?

Very standart mail for me in the Canada. The controller was pack in the original anti-static bag, seal from factory, and the bag was place between two piece of carton, hold togheter with tapd, and all the thing was place in a buble envelope.
Very basic shipping, with a value of $168.00Czech device (about $11.00 US:rofl:)

I was thinking that they'll place it in a solid box, but maybe it was to much $$.

Anyways, the most important thing is that i've recieve it back, in good shape, with my upgraded USBCOM+ module and a free CC_03 cable.

Now, the only thing to do is to find a truck to put it in and test the brake and fuse current protection, because i've sold the e-revo yesterday.

BUGGY OR TRUGGY???

Just received my speed controls (3X TMM 16018-3 Car / Boat EXPERT+) back from MGM after having the firmware upgraded to the Ver. 3.21 . The turn around time in total from the time I sent it to the time I got it back was 1 month (Australia), not the quickest but there was no charge from MGM for the upgrade, CC_03 cable or the return postage (I did pay the postage to send the 3 controls $60Aus. 3-5 days delivery).
I can confirm that the newest firmware will operate with Futaba Radios in "HRS" mode (I use a 3PKS with th Futaba Fasst 2.4GHz system) this is a welcome update as I always use digital servos and they will now be operating to their maximum performance.
I have yet to test the LVC as my system would go to reduce RPM once the edge came off my packs @ about the 2mins mark, I will post my findings after I test drive my car.

Cheers Andrew

Can you guys with the new firmware and that have a Neu motor let me know if the controller accelerates when you apply the brakes? I would appriciate that very much.

I have a neu running fine with the old software version; I did see similar to what you describe with a big maxx though. What wind neu were you running?

I'm using the 1521/1Y.

Picked my 22418 from the post office this morning. I will be installing it tonight so we'll see what happens with mine tomorrow...

Shon

Yes please let us know if quirky braking stuff is gone...ready to send mine in....when you guys are sending them in are you insuring them full value or taking a risk with a low declared value ?

When I finally decide to send mine in, they will have full value and more :lol:. The post office should be more careful when it comes to our beloved electronics. If it was going to Brasil, you would definete get a lot of money. Customs down there stinks.

:lol::lol:Do you know what??? When MGM will send it back to you, they'll only put $10.00 value on the shipping slip:oh:

Now imagine if it got lost on the way back to you. Do they add insurance for when they ship it back?

Don't know if they put insurance, but i know that only a value of $10.00 was put on mine.

well they can replace it for the 10.00 if its lost...

I will have to think twice about send the 2 MGMs I have. I have the 8012, but that one is working good.

Well I ran my truck yesterday with the updated 22418 and my Neu 1521. There is a huge difference in power now! I knew that I was not getting all the power that this setup was capable of. Before the truck was impressive, now it is just plain ridiculous.

I don't think that everyone will notice as much of a gain. MGM had said that the issue was with large motors that pull a lot of current. I'm just guessing that a 1515 might be a bit more punchy, but anything over that will be quite a bit improved.

My run was cut short (I knew in my head that something was going to break!) when the threads that hold my shock tower to the FLM bulkless failed and the shock tower came loose after a poorly landed jump. I think the screws that come with the FLM are too short because they only seem to engage about 1/3 to 1/2 of the thread. I am sending my bulkless to FLM today and ordering some longer M4 screws. I can't wait to get this thing back out.

Another benefit of the new software on the MGM is that my motor ran super cool. Now that it is getting enough juice I am sure it is more effecient. I was hoping it would run cooler but I didn't know it would be that different. I ran the MGM software when I got back and sure enough the numbers were much improved from before. I don't have the saved screen infront of me with the exact numbers, but I can say that for the first time the data had a number for the "current at full throttle". Peak amps were up near 400 and max RPM was 37500ish. Before the upgrade the max RPM I would have after a run was in the 32000 - 33000 range.

All in all I would say that the upgrade was worth it. My controller was dead at the time anyway. There is the risk of loosing your controller in the mail if you do the $10 declared value thing. I think I would only send the controller in if I knew that I was missing power that I should have or I was running the controller in "cutoff" mode and the truck was constantly cutting off even with high quality lipos (due to the current cuttoff, not the low voltage lipo protection). Remember that my controller ran without cutting off in "reduce RPM" mode, it just performed poorly. In cutoff mode the truck was useless. I can't comment on the brakes, I use mechanical.


Shon

Realy good!! But in which mode do you run your controlller now?? Cut off or reduce RPM??

I'm running Reduce RPM. My truck is down for the moment but I am going to give cutoff a run on my next outing. I am quite sure that it isn't going to cutoff. Just looking at the data on the software I can see that the controller is allowing full throttle output, which it never had before. It will be a week or two before I get a replacement hybrid bulk from FLM though...

Could you also try using the controller's brake just to see if the issue on braking is gone?

Regards.

OK thank you.
My MBX5T is almost done, just the RCM batterie tray spacer to instal and get some good Velcro to secure the MGM to the custom mount that i've did, and i'll be ready for a first li-po cherge!

I just recieve my MGM 16018 with the new SW, so i'll reprogram all my End point and i'll try it in reduce rpm too.
For the brake, same thing for me, i've install mechanical brake on my truggy.

My trans isn't locked so the motor brake won't work.

Is this something I could test just by seeing what the motor does when I use the motor brake? For example are you wanting me to see if it goes into reverse when I hit the brake?

The issue that I have when my controller is set for forward/brake only is when I apply the brake instead of braking it throttles up. The more throttle I give the stronger the throttle up is when I try to apply the brakes. It does this as well when forward/brake/reverse parameters are programmed too. I don't want you to break anything though.

what does it do when you apply forward?