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Jahay 07.27.2010 09:56 AM

BTW it does look like a good idea to get custom dog bones...But i dont think its a good idea...

On our longer trucks, and when we cartwheel or land badly... we are more likly to bend dogbones... I have to replace my SHD shafts every 2 runs if i do big jumps!!! So it would be annoying and expensive to replace custom ones!

Gdot 07.27.2010 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 373141)
No stock radio box showing here. :)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TB...0/IMG_4965.JPG

that looks great

thzero 07.27.2010 02:36 PM

LOL... yeah, thats what I meant. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 374628)
Pretty sure you mean serrated.... But segregation is often handy too, just not in rc!!!!


thzero 07.27.2010 02:38 PM

Well I haven't broken or bent a dogbone yet. :)

Then again I'm not doing monster jumps either; maybe topping out at 10' or so at least with this.

Yeah it would be a pain to replace custom dogbones... perhaps what is needed then is C-hubs that can use a 24mm bearing, with a 12mm axle that will accept the Baja 24mm hex but that the cup is the standard Savage size!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 374629)
BTW it does look like a good idea to get custom dog bones...But i dont think its a good idea...

On our longer trucks, and when we cartwheel or land badly... we are more likly to bend dogbones... I have to replace my SHD shafts every 2 runs if i do big jumps!!! So it would be annoying and expensive to replace custom ones!


thzero 07.27.2010 02:41 PM

Thanks! I actually am using the stock radio box, I just don't use the top of it. Here's a shot of it. You can see I screwed on a shortened body post in the middle of the center portion of the radio box to attach the body too.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TB...0/IMG_4954.JPG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gdot (Post 374630)
that looks great


thzero 07.29.2010 09:12 AM

Just thought I'd post some size difference photos between my RC8Te and the Savage 5B as I was struck by the size difference when looking at them sitting out for display.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TF...0/IMG_5003.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TF...0/IMG_5004.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TF...0/IMG_5005.JPG

suicideneil 07.29.2010 06:30 PM

Stop it, you're making me want to build one, but I have other plans...

Jahay 07.29.2010 06:43 PM

The truck is looking really good!!! You finished it well!

Can you tell me how that rear wing is holding up? I like the idea of it protecting the rear shock tower. How is it mounted? is it to the stock body posts? And what wing is that...baja wing?

Sorry about the questions... Thanks

thzero 07.29.2010 07:05 PM

Yup, its the Baja 5B wing. The Savage body mount fits right into the mounting holes on the wing even! I have it for now just held on with some heavy duty body clips, but it wobbles a bit. I mean try and shave down the body mount so I can use a large washer to help snug it up so that it doesn't wobble as much or not at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 375006)
The truck is looking really good!!! You finished it well!

Can you tell me how that rear wing is holding up? I like the idea of it protecting the rear shock tower. How is it mounted? is it to the stock body posts? And what wing is that...baja wing?

Sorry about the questions... Thanks


Jahay 07.30.2010 04:41 AM

thanks for the info...
I may have to give this ago to protect my rear shock tower. Then i will get some form of nylon roll cage made up.

If i were you, i would place a washer between the pin and the wing... May hold it in place and prevent extended damage to the wing on bad roll overs etc...

thzero 08.11.2010 05:41 PM

Well I got the 24mm hubs installed and so far they seem to be holding up much better.

I would say that anyone running a Flux get the Heavy Duty (#102514) drive geear set. I just had the standard one (86097) and it was chewed up pretty fast.

Also am waiting for the Integy Heavy Duty Rear Hub Carrier Silver HPI Savage XL to come in. Definetly wanting to get rid of the play in the rear end as it tends to cause the buggy to do some odd things under power.

Nard Cox 08.12.2010 05:24 AM

I'm still driving with the normal gear set, for over a year now and it's still in one piece .. what am I'm doing wrong :D ?

thzero 08.12.2010 11:37 AM

Dunno... I've chewed mine to pieces. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nard Cox (Post 376555)
I'm still driving with the normal gear set, for over a year now and it's still in one piece .. what am I'm doing wrong :D ?


Bondonutz 08.12.2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nard Cox (Post 376555)
I'm still driving with the normal gear set, for over a year now and it's still in one piece .. what am I'm doing wrong :D ?

Plug in the other lipo so your running them in series ?? JK :whistle:

thzero 08.12.2010 12:45 PM

Rotfl.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondonutz (Post 376583)
plug in the other lipo so your running them in series ?? Jk :whistle:


thzero 08.16.2010 10:38 PM

Integy Rear Hubs... they seem decent enough. However, fit and finish wasn't greatest. I had to grind down the ball in the upper tie rod end to get it to fit. Also it was a damn tight fit with the bearings!! Should have taken a dremel and ground them out carefully, but I was in a bit of a rush so I suspect the bearings just won't come out!

Other thing is there aren't any instructions so you really aren't 100% sure what degrees of camber the three optional mounting points are. Will need to get out camber gauage and measure. I did use the #2 mounting point(#1 go #2, #2, go #1... ) for what I believe is 2 degrees of camber.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TG...0/IMG_5013.JPG

Put together with the XL axles and the 24mm HPI hub adapters.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TG...0/IMG_5018.JPG

Pic of them mounted (sorry unlike others, I am not doing shot by shot mounting instructions!).

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TG...0/IMG_5022.JPG

So now after all that it does a great job of elimanting the slop in the rear end which should help the vehicle track a lot better. I realize that HPI saves money by using the same part on both ends, but they really need to make a plastic version of this as standard equipment.

I also tossed in the HD drive gear set into the gearbox.

Next up... I did actually take some "advice" and got some shock "socks" from badhorsie, so we'll see how those work out (or don't).

Following that, I am probably going to grind out the TVPs some to make room for a CC1520 1Y and run 6S instead of the 5S I am now. Although the CC1512 1.5Y would be a nice middle ground and its actually shorter than the CC2200 so no mods would be necessary to the TVPs.

Think I will also work on some lexan mud guards for the rear arms.

_dV 08.17.2010 05:07 AM

I have the same Rear Hubs and didn't have an issue with fitting the top stock arm into them. Maybe the pivot ball is a touch wider?

My bearings were also a tight fit but when it came to changing them they came out much easier then i expected. I just tapped alternately on either side of them with a small screw driver and they came out nps.

I have bent one of the rods that come with them but was probably just from bad crashes. Integy sold me a replacement set of rods separate from the hubs which was great.

Very much agree there should be a stock plastic part.

The horsie shock covers will get damaged by stone strike so the rear guards are a good idea to protect them from that.

Nard Cox 08.17.2010 05:24 AM

Bondo, 2S in serie ... nahh that's plain crazy :lol:

Nice work!! But a 1512 1.5y in this, isn't that a tad light for this truck?

ps. I'm using RC Skin shock socks and they are holsing up good so far.

thzero 08.17.2010 07:49 AM

Tad light? How so? I'm running a CC2200 right now...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nard Cox (Post 377044)
Nice work!! But a 1512 1.5y in this, isn't that a tad light for this truck?


Bmr4life 08.17.2010 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 377021)
Integy Rear Hubs... they seem decent enough. However, fit and finish wasn't greatest. I had to grind down the ball in the upper tie rod end to get it to fit. Also it was a damn tight fit with the bearings!! Should have taken a dremel and ground them out carefully, but I was in a bit of a rush so I suspect the bearings just won't come out!

Other thing is there aren't any instructions so you really aren't 100% sure what degrees of camber the three optional mounting points are. Will need to get out camber gauage and measure. I did use the #2 mounting point(#1 go #2, #2, go #1... ) for what I believe is 2 degrees of camber.

Put together with the XL axles and the 24mm HPI hub adapters.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TG...0/IMG_5018.JPG

Are those the HPI 86249 wide axles?

brian015 08.17.2010 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 377049)
Tad light? How so? I'm running a CC2200 right now...

1512 or 1521?

thzero 08.17.2010 08:28 AM

Yup... same thing that is on the XL just that I de-anodized the spacers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmr4life (Post 377050)
Are those the HPI 86249 wide axles?


thzero 08.17.2010 08:51 AM

1512 1.5Y. The important part is bolded. It is a 1800kv motor. The 1512 1Y is the 2650kv motor. Although its Amp rating on the 1512 1.5Y may be a bit low I suppose even though it has the same max. voltage as the 1515/1518/1520.

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...le_motors.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian015 (Post 377051)
1512 or 1521?


brian015 08.17.2010 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 377054)
1512 1.5Y. The important part is bolded. It is a 1800kv motor. The 1512 1Y is the 2650kv motor. Although its Amp rating on the 1512 1.5Y may be a bit low I suppose even though it has the same max. voltage as the 1515/1518/1520.

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...le_motors.html


Then, yes, its too small - smaller than your CC2200 - its made for buggies whether its 1y or 1.5y.

Nard Cox 08.17.2010 10:50 AM

I'm with brian on this one. The 1512 is a buggy motor, the 1515 is MT/truggy a 1521 is for monsters like your ride ;). Oh well, I'm not expert but it just sounded a bit strange to me.

Arct1k 08.17.2010 11:25 AM

I'm going for a 1717 on 6s in mine - :)

brian015 08.17.2010 04:37 PM

What you're interested in is the power they can handle. If you look at Neu's specs:

1500 motor specs

you can see that the:
1512 is rated to 2000 Watts
1515 is rated to 2500 Watts
1521 is rated to 3500 Watts
etc.

It's not the kv that matters for choosing a motor for a specific size vehicle, it's the physical size of the motor and the power it can handle. Then you choose kv for the particular gearing/battery voltage/etc. of your setup.

suicideneil 08.18.2010 07:50 AM

Indeed- any 1512 motor is designed for a buggy or light truggy, weighing maybe 6-8lbs, not exactly ideal for a 1/5 MT weighing closer to 15-20lbs- I'd use a minimum of a 1515, more like the 1518 or 1520 if you were going with castleneus..

thzero 08.18.2010 08:35 AM

Well I am using a 1515 right now. :P But yes I will probably drop to a 1518 or 1520 depending what will fit length wise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 377196)
Indeed- any 1512 motor is designed for a buggy or light truggy, weighing maybe 6-8lbs, not exactly ideal for a 1/5 MT weighing closer to 15-20lbs- I'd use a minimum of a 1515, more like the 1518 or 1520 if you were going with castleneus..


brian015 08.18.2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 377198)
Well I am using a 1515 right now. :P

What is your point here? You were saying that a 1512 was a good alternative to the 1515. And a number of us were trying to explain why it wasn't. So this is where you say, "thanks guys for setting me straight and helping me not make a stupid motor choice."

thzero 08.18.2010 10:21 AM

Thanks guys for setting me straight and helping me not make a stupid motor choice! :)

Although I thought it was obvious by saying that yes I probably would move to a 1518 or 1520!

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian015 (Post 377201)
What is your point here? You were saying that a 1512 was a good alternative to the 1515. And a number of us were trying to explain why it wasn't. So this is where you say, "thanks guys for setting me straight and helping me not make a stupid motor choice."


brian015 08.18.2010 10:44 AM

:party:

Nard Cox 08.18.2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 377198)
But yes I will probably drop to a 1518 or 1520 depending what will fit length wise.

Good choice :wink:

thzero 09.27.2010 12:00 PM

Was on the front page of BigSquid.

mac3194 10.10.2010 03:29 PM

can u please explain to me how you mounted the body because im making a custom 5b conversion.

thanks

thzero 10.10.2010 05:58 PM

People have mounted the bodies in a couple of different ways. Here are some pics on how I mounted it. You can also look through my gallery http://picasaweb.google.com/thzerodo...x5BConversion#.

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TB...0/IMG_4954.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TB...0/IMG_4960.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dcy74CG15Qk/TB...0/IMG_4964.JPG

Jahay 10.10.2010 06:00 PM

great thinking!! nice simple idea!

the body doesnt get hit in roll overs anyway right?

thzero 10.10.2010 06:06 PM

Not really no... because its small it mostly gets protected.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 383366)
great thinking!! nice simple idea!

the body doesnt get hit in roll overs anyway right?


mac3194 10.10.2010 06:40 PM

whats the long part were the body pin goes?? is that a baja 5b part??

Chadworkz 10.10.2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac3194 (Post 383368)
whats the long part were the body pin goes?? is that a baja 5b part??

The body mounts right there...look on top of the rear/side of the body, you will see it poking through!


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