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snellemin 04.24.2009 12:04 PM

With sensored you can have a higher rollout with any motor.
The use of 11000kv+ motors without startup issues is solved.
Dragracing is much more consistant.
The cheat mode, aka Boost or Turbo in other ESC's makes it possible for burst speeds at topend or at whatever rmp you which to set it at. Weak batteries need not to apply.
6S capable without mods.

johnrobholmes 04.24.2009 12:15 PM

I doubt they will keep the MM. It is hard to build, very labor intensive. If the Pro is at the same price with the same power but easier to build, why have both?

Unsullied_Spy 04.25.2009 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 282020)
I doubt they will keep the MM. It is hard to build, very labor intensive. If the Pro is at the same price with the same power but easier to build, why have both?

As much as I'd hate to see the MM go, I think you're right. The MM is tougher to make than most ESCs (which is part of the cost, unless they re-design it to be cheaper to build). It's pretty much the most robust and reliable ESC on the market. I've had 6 or 7 of them and they are worth every cent. If they could make them cheaper to build but not sacrifice any reliability or specs (maybe drop in new FETs that are better than the ones that are in it) that would be incredible.

Pdelcast 04.28.2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 282213)
As much as I'd hate to see the MM go, I think you're right. The MM is tougher to make than most ESCs (which is part of the cost, unless they re-design it to be cheaper to build). It's pretty much the most robust and reliable ESC on the market. I've had 6 or 7 of them and they are worth every cent. If they could make them cheaper to build but not sacrifice any reliability or specs (maybe drop in new FETs that are better than the ones that are in it) that would be incredible.

MM is still going to be available for the foreseeable future. MM Pro is adding to the line, not replacing the MM.

e-mike 04.28.2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 283019)
MM is still going to be available for the foreseeable future. MM Pro is adding to the line, not replacing the MM.

like ive said in previous post:yes:more products for more choice and for more happy customer:whip:

so im waiting for this esc:whistle:o yes im waiting:mdr:

Unsullied_Spy 04.28.2009 09:30 PM

So you can get a MM for $130 and the MMM for $150, logically the MM Pro will fit right in the middle? This is going to be hell for people as indecisive as I am...

BrianG 04.28.2009 09:33 PM

Pretty simple really:

- MM for small vehicles with little mounting real estate and want to run 2s-3s.

- MM Pro for similar vehicles but has a switching BEC, so good up to 6s on the smaller "HV" setups.

- MMM for the bigger stuff.

lincpimp 04.28.2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 283080)
Pretty simple really:

- MM for small vehicles with little mounting real estate and want to run 2s-3s.

- MM Pro for similar vehicles but has a switching BEC, so good up to 4s (I am assuming it does have a switching BEC and is good for that voltage).

- MMM for the bigger stuff.

He mentioned 6s capability on the MM pro. So good for smaller 1/8 scale racing setups that use higher voltage.

BrianG 04.28.2009 09:43 PM

My list has been updated accordingly. :smile:

snellemin 04.28.2009 11:11 PM

You guys forgot the sensored part.

SpEEdyBL 04.29.2009 10:33 PM

If the MM pro is priced similar to the MM and MMM, I don't see the incentive to buy either the the MM or MMM in 90% of cases when the MM pro has all the capabilities of both (almost the MMM) and more. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MM has almost the same number of fets as the MMM, thus nearly the same power handling capabilities. The fan and extra surface area of the MMM are what make it handle much more continuous current out of the box, but since the MMpro will have fan that is removeable, you are set for at least any 6s 1/8 scale racing setup.

TexasSP 04.29.2009 10:38 PM

I would honestly think that the MM Pro with what features it has would cost a little more than the MMM. I could have missed something and be totally out of the park on this one but just an observation. Either way, I am sure it will have a good price point and fly off the shelves.

RC-Monster Mike 04.29.2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL (Post 283398)
If the MM pro is priced similar to the MM and MMM, I don't see the incentive to buy either the the MM or MMM in 90% of cases when the MM pro has all the capabilities of both (almost the MMM) and more. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MM has almost the same number of fets as the MMM, thus nearly the same power handling capabilities. The fan and extra surface area of the MMM are what make it handle much more continuous current out of the box, but since the MMpro will have fan that is removeable, you are set for at least any 6s 1/8 scale racing setup.

Well - not quite . It isn't just the number of FETs, but also the design (cooling is very important). The MMM has a large footprint (as you mentioned) and has ALL its FETs on one board cooled by a large heatsink. The MM has SOME of its FETs attached to a smaller heatsink. The rest of the FETs are cooled indirectly through the copper on the board attached to the "cooled" FETs which are attached to the heatsink. I think the MM has less FETs overall vs. the MMM as well(been a while since I have had one apart). less FETs and less cooling = significantly less power handling capability.
My MMM almost never comes in with its fan on(only comes on when i plug it in) - even on a hot day. Without a fan in the same scenario, the MM would thermal(and would thermal with a fan occasionaly as well). If the MMPro has the same basic layout as the MM, I would expect similar performance. I think the MMM pro may be a good 1/8 buggy esc on 5s perhaps, but I also think it will need a milder setup to survive vs. the MMM.


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