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JERRY2KONE 03.18.2011 12:17 PM

Move
 
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Originally Posted by hemiblas (Post 401518)
E-Revonut,
We do need to take care of our country, because we have problems of our own. My truck was stolen a while back, my cars broken into 3 times, the houses in my neighborhood get broken into, while we are all at work, if you park your car along the main street in our neighborhood every Saturday someone breaks all the windows and steals everything inside, someone was robbed at our park at gunpoint, my brother was almost killed from someone robbing him at gunpoint. The funny part is I live in a nice neighborhood where this stuff doesnt happen as much. I believe the US has far greater problems than anyone will care to admit and if we cant fix them at home, what makes us think we can fix them everywhere else.

I grew up in a place like that. I would move. There are far better places to live. I vowed many years ago that I would never put my family under that kind of stress living in a shitty place. Too many options out there for that crap. Sorry, just my 2cents.

hemiblas 03.18.2011 01:02 PM

Good advice, I'm working on it.

JERRY2KONE 03.18.2011 02:53 PM

Good luck
 
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Originally Posted by hemiblas (Post 401529)
Good advice, I'm working on it.

Listen man good luck with that. I thiink anyone with half a brain should move away from places like that and leave them to the people who are doing all of the damage, stealing, & hurting others. Let them kill each other off then the place can be bulldozed over and rebuilt for better housing. Sorry to hear that you have to deal with such a stressful situation. I know a lot of people are stuck these days because of upside down loans and just cannot sell their property to get out. Our country sure is in some pretty tough times. I hope it turns around soon.

BrianG 03.18.2011 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 401535)
...I thiink anyone with half a brain should move away from places like that and leave them to the people who are doing all of the damage, stealing, & hurting others. Let them kill each other off then the place can be bulldozed over and rebuilt for better housing...

Unfortunately, in the real world, that doesn't happen. What does happen is the "bad" people move to where the "good" people are so they can get more (and better) loot. Why steal trash from trash when you can get the good stuff? Franky, the justice system in this country is a joke; criminals have more rights than law-abiding citizens, and jail is simply a vacation resort where scum just learn to become more hardened. I'm anxiously waiting for the day everyone gets fed up and starts some kind of vigilante club - when that happens, I'm there! Someone breaks into your house; shoot 'em dead. If they mess with your property; shoot 'em dead. Someone kidnaps and/or does unspeakable acts to someone in your family; shoot'em dead. Do that enough times and the scum of the earth will get the picture and move on to easier prey. But no, in this country, heaven forbid we hurt a criminal's feelings...

JERRY2KONE 03.18.2011 03:49 PM

Same family tree.
 
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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 401539)
Unfortunately, in the real world, that doesn't happen. What does happen is the "bad" people move to where the "good" people are so they can get more (and better) loot. Why steal trash from trash when you can get the good stuff? Franky, the justice system in this country is a joke; criminals have more rights than law-abiding citizens, and jail is simply a vacation resort where scum just learn to become more hardened. I'm anxiously waiting for the day everyone gets fed up and starts some kind of vigilante club - when that happens, I'm there! Someone breaks into your house; shoot 'em dead. If they mess with your property; shoot 'em dead. Someone kidnaps and/or does unspeakable acts to someone in your family; shoot'em dead. Do that enough times and the scum of the earth will get the picture and move on to easier prey. But no, in this country, heaven forbid we hurt a criminal's feelings...

It sounds like you and James are from the same family tree.:lol: no offense intended BG. I was laughing so hard about your retorts. It reminded me of Akmed the dead terrorist. "I KIEEEELL YOU, until you are dead" and that is worse. Love the sentiment BG. Thanks for the laugh.

BrianG 03.18.2011 03:54 PM

You're welcome, but ummm, I was actually serious. :oops:

JERRY2KONE 03.18.2011 04:10 PM

I know
 
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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 401547)
You're welcome, but ummm, I was actually serious. :oops:

Oh I knew you were seious BG. That is what made me laugh so much. You just don't hear that kind of talk much these days, because of all the politically correctness crap everywhere. Your response just made me think of Yosemite Sam on the loose. Now that is who I will think you look like. So you have burned that picture in my head so that everytime I see you in here I will see him.

bigsteel 03.18.2011 04:13 PM

I wouldn't hesitate putting a 00 buckshot sized hole in anyone who threatened me or my family in my own home or my property regardless of there so called rights.hell,I've got a Taurus judge pistol loaded with 3 .410 shells and 3 .45 long colt under my drivers seat. nothing says get the hell away from my car like a shot shell and 45 long colt!

PBO 03.18.2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 401539)
Someone breaks into your house; shoot 'em dead

Aren't you permitted to do this already?

BrianG 03.18.2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 401548)
...Your response just made me think of Yosemite Sam on the loose. Now that is who I will think you look like. So you have burned that picture in my head so that everytime I see you in here I will see him.

Well, we can't have that! I don't take good pictures, but here's an OK one of me and my daughter from Halloween '09: Pic

See? Nothing like Yosemite Sam. :no: :smile:

BrianG 03.18.2011 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PBO (Post 401553)
Aren't you permitted to do this already?

Possibly, but then you get a civil lawsuit against you from the scum's family, which they are likely to win. Seriously.

reno911 03.18.2011 04:27 PM

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JERRY2KONE 03.18.2011 04:43 PM

Maybe.
 
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Originally Posted by PBO (Post 401553)
Aren't you permitted to do this already?

MAYBE. It depends on the most resent laws where you live. That is the problem with the legal system like BG said. In some states if someone breaks into your home and he is unarmed and you shoot them you may be liable for their injuries.

That can include pain and suffering payments as well. it has been done in our courts within the last few years in either PA or NJ. Our own legal system has turned against us. Plus lets say you surprize them and they turn to run. If you shoot them it can be considered murder or manslaughter, because he was leaving and no longer a threat to your or your family. Self defense has been redifined in some states as to whether the perpatrator was a threat to your life or not. If a 13 year old kid comes at you and you shoot him without trying to disarm him you can be charged with a crime because he is a minor and you should as an adult be able to disarm him making him no longer a threat. So all of these landmark cases are making shooting someone a real legal battle.

PBO 03.18.2011 04:51 PM

So why I hear so many people arming themselves to defend their home & property? doesn't make much sense...you could own a canon but if you can't use it, what's the point?

hemiblas 03.18.2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 401539)
Unfortunately, in the real world, that doesn't happen. What does happen is the "bad" people move to where the "good" people are so they can get more (and better) loot. Why steal trash from trash when you can get the good stuff? Franky, the justice system in this country is a joke; criminals have more rights than law-abiding citizens, and jail is simply a vacation resort where scum just learn to become more hardened. I'm anxiously waiting for the day everyone gets fed up and starts some kind of vigilante club - when that happens, I'm there! Someone breaks into your house; shoot 'em dead. If they mess with your property; shoot 'em dead. Someone kidnaps and/or does unspeakable acts to someone in your family; shoot'em dead. Do that enough times and the scum of the earth will get the picture and move on to easier prey. But no, in this country, heaven forbid we hurt a criminal's feelings...

Thats exactly what happened. We had like 3 or 4 guys all move into a rental in our neighborhood and thats when everything started. The owner of the house lost the house and the renters got kicked out. After they left everything has quieted down a bunch so I'm pretty sure it was them. I still wont leave my garage door open or my house unlocked, but its better.

For things to get any better, I would have to move out of state I think. We have something like 16 percent unemployment in Vegas, so I think that contributes to all this stuff and right now its worst than ever. Everyones house is also worth nothing now compared to what we paid for them. Paid 450k, worth 220k right now. My buddy got in a 280k, just had one sold for 65k. Its not pretty out here.


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