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In my business, the rule of thumb is the first product to launch usually takes the market, given they are of similar price, features and quality. I would bet much of the same applies here. If one is months behind the other and doesn't offer signifigantly better features, they will have a difficult time penetrating the market.
It should be an interesting race to see who gets it done first. Like many of you, I will be eagerly waiting for any reasonably priced controller that will be capable of reliably running 5S on a 1/8th scale/ MT setup, and is supported by good CS. |
I look forward to these controllers myself. My micro rc18 uses the mini rage system and I wouldn't change it for anything. The R1 and R1 pro should be listed on the site in another week or so(when they get released), and I do have some mini-rage systems as well - just gotta put them on the site.
I am truly looking forward to Tekin's R1MT controller - If it does for monsters what the mini-rage does for micros, it will be a welcome addition to the currently available controllers - especially if it does it better than the rest. :) |
thats good news. I already put a r1 pro on backorder elsewhere, and hope it works a little better then my mamba. if not I will just put it in my mf2 or maybe in a crt.5.
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Can anyone confirm that the R1 pro will do 5S? I'd really like something new to play with, but the current offerings really don't excite me. I'd like to try an R1 pro, but at twice the price of the MM, I don't want to toast it right off.
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that sounds good i may have to try it
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At this point, I'm wondering if the MT version is going to be all that much different from the R1 pro. Perhaps the only real difference will have to do with the bec. My LHS told me that they'd have the R1s in soon and I ordered one and then realized that the MT version was the one that I wanted, so I cancelled the order. I hope he ordered a couple anyway. I'll have to go by and see. I'm gonna go check out the specs on the R1 again.
If they are saying that it will do 5S, I'm wondering what it will really handle. LOL. I checked out the site, but I didn't see any published specs, like how much current it can handle. Anyone know? |
I dont know. It would be nice if it would handle higher but right now I will be happy if I can have 5s and not need a fan. I currently dont have one on my mm but i know it will need it in the summer.
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OK guys, I just got off of the phone with Tekin. I called to ask about the R1 pro, and I was told that there were revisions to the manual and those revisions are going to include reducing the max voltage to 3S lipo. Their testing indicated that the R1 pro is not reliable at 5S and 4S was questionable. This was not due to the bec, but the controller section itself.
I thought that we were having a pretty frank conversation, and he seemed to be pretty open about the limitations of the R1 Pro and in short the bottom line was, don't run the R1 on 5S. He did say that the R1MT would be out soon, although he wouldn't elaborate. |
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Well, after what I was told on the phone, I hope that there are a couple more differences between the pro and the MT.
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Earlier in the thread the Prez said the MT would double the # of Fets, so current should double I would guess. What the current rating of the R1pro is IDK, I don't see it on the website under specs (would be useful info... :007: ) Maybe its buried somewhere, but I don't care enough to go digging now.
Would a safe guess be 100A? Assume then the MT will be 200A? I would not be suprised if CC and Tekin are planning to use the same Fets, there are only so many component manufacturers, and these are particularly well suited to the app.... Prez said they are rated as 30V, and with the explaination of the motor braking voltage spikes, I doubt it would be much higher. However, I do think that if one were to use manual brakes, its quite possible that either the CC or Tekin esc would run 6S safely. I think the info on the Fets also explains why the MM can run 5S well. Hell it might even be possible to run the MM @ 6S using man brakes and not too hot of a motor (say on a 1/10 scale) and not fry the esc. It would make sense that the MM and MMM would use the same fets from a business perspective. What we'd end up buying is bigger Amp capacity and heat dissipation, not necc higher voltage capacity with the larger ESCs. |
I had gotten the 120A number from the pdf manual on Tekin's site. When I saw that, in conjunction with the 5S claim, I started to get excited. I then called Tekin and had my bubble burst.
I'm starting to wish that I had an interest in 1/10th scale. |
you could always do the crt.5. 3s would be plenty in that.
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Since some of you haven't read what all TeamTekin has posted, here's some excerpts that should lay some questions to rest:
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