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MustGoFaster 04.11.2008 09:05 AM

Just in time for the outdoor season!

loa 04.11.2008 09:08 AM

Great news!

Dagger Thrasher 04.11.2008 09:09 AM

Awesome! That's great news. Thanks for the update Patrick. :)

DrKnow65 04.11.2008 09:19 AM

Any chance the first batch will go to those of us on the "waiting to get notice from Joe Ford" e-mail list? I'm not super hot on getting mine but since I don't know the delay on the "package" combo I may need to pick up a donor motor and the ESC first... Will castle be offering the "neu style CC motors" along with the authentic Neu line? or only as an add on to the MMM package?

gixxer 04.11.2008 09:23 AM

thanks for the info. just what I was waiting to hear.

Pdelcast 04.11.2008 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrKnow65 (Post 162387)
Any chance the first batch will go to those of us on the "waiting to get notice from Joe Ford" e-mail list? I'm not super hot on getting mine but since I don't know the delay on the "package" combo I may need to pick up a donor motor and the ESC first... Will castle be offering the "neu style CC motors" along with the authentic Neu line? or only as an add on to the MMM package?

We will be offering a pre-sale special at MAP pricing for those of you who would like to get a MMM before the big distributors...

Keep watching the website, we will probably only give a single week for the special.


The "Castle Neu" motors will be build in Castle's Chinese facility, under license from Steve Neu, and we are currently waiting on magnets to arrive from our magnet supplier in China to build the final prototypes and get the production line started. The "Authentic Neu" motors are built in Steve Neu's facility in San Diego. The differences between the motors were mostly to make the CC motor better suited for RC car use -- the "Authentic" Neu motors were designed for airplane and heli use originally, which calls for lightest possible weight.

#1: Authentic Neu motors have carbon fiber wound rotors, the Castle Neu motors will not have a carbon wound rotor. (We tried, but Carbon Fiber is so rare right now we just couldn't procure enough carbon for production... but we have found in testing that the carbon wound rotors aren't significantly stronger, they just protect the stator better when the rotor fails, so we decided to move forward without a carbon wound rotor.)
#2: Castle Neu motors have a completely different case, which is better suited to RC car use (better seals on front and rear bearings, more heat sink area, heavier and stiffer construction.)
#3: Castle Neu motors have larger front bearings to handle RC car loads better than the Neu motors
#4: Castle Neu motors have high flex 10ga silicone wires exiting the case, instead of winding wires (better suited to very high vibration environments.)

Thanx!

Patrick

skellyo 04.11.2008 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 162392)
We will be offering a pre-sale special at MAP pricing for those of you who would like to get a MMM before the big distributors...

Keep watching the website, we will probably only give a single week for the special.

Thanx!

Patrick

You Rock!

Quick question though...will you have specific instructions on how to avoid certain death from our spouses upon purchase of multiple ESC's? :lol:

DrKnow65 04.11.2008 09:38 AM

Dang, CC service strikes again hahaha it must be one of those "top down" policies. Thanks for the info Patrick.

>scrolling back up to look at the MAP again hehehe<

sikeston34m 04.11.2008 09:40 AM

Count me in! :yes:

"finger on the Paypal button"

LOL

Pdelcast 04.11.2008 09:42 AM

Scroll back up -- just added more info about the CC Neu motors to my last post.

Patrick


Oh, and BTW, sorry I haven't been posting -- been down since the Toledo show with Strep throat. Today is my first day where I'm out of bed. :)

kingiggy262 04.11.2008 10:03 AM

Wow awesome to hear about the Castle Neu motors! I definitely think I will be adding one of those to my shopping list! :yes:

Thanks Patrick!

kulangflow 04.11.2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 162402)
Oh, and BTW, sorry I haven't been posting -- been down since the Toledo show with Strep throat. Today is my first day where I'm out of bed. :)

No worries ... it happens to the best of us. We're just excited for the coming attraction! I'm tempted to buy two just have two. :yes:

Arct1k 04.11.2008 10:51 AM

Patrick - Will you do that same MAP deal when the motors come out - they sound great but would hope not to be disadvantaged now by buying the MMM straight away - Thanks

lincpimp 04.11.2008 11:00 AM

Great info Patrick, thanks! Hope that you feel better, strep throat sucks big time!

I will be looking forward the the esc, and will definately buy the motor(s) when they come out. The castle neu will be mass produced, will it compare to an authentic neu in performance? Are you still going to do a few different winds? Or just the 2200kv motor? And is it too early to ask about the motor pricing? So many qestions, sorry about that!

suicideneil 04.11.2008 11:11 AM

If ya dont ask, you dont get (answers in this case)- someone once told me that, and it is very true.

Bummer about the strep throat, but its good to hear more info about the MMM.

Is it actually going to be called the MambaMonsterMaxx though, or just the MonsterMaxx?...

badassrevo 04.11.2008 11:15 AM

I don't care what it is called, I just want one.

Pdelcast 04.11.2008 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 162430)
If ya dont ask, you dont get (answers in this case)- someone once told me that, and it is very true.

Bummer about the strep throat, but its good to hear more info about the MMM.

Is it actually going to be called the MambaMonsterMaxx though, or just the MonsterMaxx?...

I believe it is going to be just Mamba Monster... dropping Max on the packaging. But I'm not positive, that's not my dept... :neutral:

I just run the engineering dept. :whistle:


Patrick

Happywing 04.11.2008 12:09 PM

I hope the naming doesn't slow down the production of the stickers. I'll take a plain, unnamed one, thank you.

lutach 04.11.2008 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 162448)
I believe it is going to be just Mamba Monster... dropping Max on the packaging. But I'm not positive, that's not my dept... :neutral:

I just run the engineering dept. :whistle:


Patrick

Patrick,

This is a bit off topic, but you mentioned an HV version as well in rcgroups. Are you still going to be making one after the 6S version is done? Here you can see what I was thinking: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...t=9183&page=14 (Starts at post # 205). I still have to send my HV110 and MM in and if it's possible to use the MOSFET I mentioned in the HV110, I would buy them. I would also like to know if you can add a very simple car software for the HV110 as well.

Regards.

glassdoctor 04.11.2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 162402)

Oh, and BTW, sorry I haven't been posting -- been down since the Toledo show with Strep throat. Today is my first day where I'm out of bed. :)

Patrick, I'm planning to come down to KC next weekend for the RC Pro Series race, and I want to stop by CC sometime, probably Friday morning. I'm hoping to meet you and the guys.

Strep Throat: I suggest you start taking big doses of Vitamin C now... to keep it from coming back. I did that after getting it again a few months ago after getting strep for the 3rd time in about a year. It had been that I often felt like I was "getting" a sore throat or every time I got a little touch of a cold, it seemed like the strep was going to come back. But after taking couple 1000mg or more vitamin C every day that completely went away and I've been great since. I still try to take C every day... I'm thinking it's a magic pill :whistle:

suicideneil 04.11.2008 12:39 PM

Glassdoctor is a pill head... :lol:

TexasSP 04.11.2008 01:40 PM

Patrick, thanks for the info on the CC/Neu motor. That all looks really nice. I assume on these early orders you will limit quantities and if so what will the limit be. I only want two, and they are both for me. I just don't want to see people buying and selling them on ebay at 200% markups and what not.

captain harlock 04.11.2008 04:41 PM

Patrick, nice posts so far.

BTW, I'm with Lu regarding the HV version of the Mamba Monster. I also would like to know if there're any plans to release such a version, not to mention that the building procedure will be much easier since you already have the monster bases.

DRIFT_BUGGY 04.11.2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 162392)
We will be offering a pre-sale special at MAP pricing for those of you who would like to get a MMM before the big distributors...

Keep watching the website, we will probably only give a single week for the special.


The "Castle Neu" motors will be build in Castle's Chinese facility, under license from Steve Neu, and we are currently waiting on magnets to arrive from our magnet supplier in China to build the final prototypes and get the production line started. The "Authentic Neu" motors are built in Steve Neu's facility in San Diego. The differences between the motors were mostly to make the CC motor better suited for RC car use -- the "Authentic" Neu motors were designed for airplane and heli use originally, which calls for lightest possible weight.

#1: Authentic Neu motors have carbon fiber wound rotors, the Castle Neu motors will not have a carbon wound rotor. (We tried, but Carbon Fiber is so rare right now we just couldn't procure enough carbon for production... but we have found in testing that the carbon wound rotors aren't significantly stronger, they just protect the stator better when the rotor fails, so we decided to move forward without a carbon wound rotor.)
#2: Castle Neu motors have a completely different case, which is better suited to RC car use (better seals on front and rear bearings, more heat sink area, heavier and stiffer construction.)
#3: Castle Neu motors have larger front bearings to handle RC car loads better than the Neu motors
#4: Castle Neu motors have high flex 10ga silicone wires exiting the case, instead of winding wires (better suited to very high vibration environments.)

Thanx!

Patrick

So on the CC website, if you click build it next to the selected motor, that will be this version but if you want the original heli version you select the heli version in the tick box?

skellyo 04.11.2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC_KAOS (Post 162596)
So on the CC website, if you click build it next to the selected motor, that will be this version but if you want the original heli version you select the heli version in the tick box?

I don't believe that's the case. The motors you can order from them currently are Neu motors. Castle is now the US distributor for Neu Motors. The Heli version of a Neu motor has a special can style:
http://www.neumotors.com/20061222/HeliMotors.html

I'm sure they will do plenty to distinguish between their "Castle Neu" motors and the original Neu motors once they actually have their "Castle Neu" motors available.

jnev 04.12.2008 12:42 AM

This is awesome news Patrick on the motor and ESC. I think I will pick up the ESC as soon as possible and buy the motor as well once it comes out. :yes:

bl-is-future 04.12.2008 12:56 AM

WOW, this is awesome news. I cant wait for this to hit the shelves, my new savage project is awaiting the power! Thanks for all the info Patrick.
Gotta love CC.

DRIFT_BUGGY 04.12.2008 03:16 AM

So what series of Neu Motors will be out - 1515, 1512, 1509?

Will they be around the same price as the current Neu's?

Any idea on approx. what month they will be out or when a preorder list is out?

jnev 04.12.2008 03:57 AM

Supposedly, it is the 1515 2200KV model. But they said they will be expanding the different size motors they will produce in the future. They will be much less than the current Neu's as well. Not sure when they'll be out though...

DRIFT_BUGGY 04.12.2008 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnev (Post 162698)
Supposedly, it is the 1515 2200KV model. But they said they will be expanding the different size motors they will produce in the future. They will be much less than the current Neu's as well. Not sure when they'll be out though...

Sweet, thanks, that is pretty much the info I was after

titan 04.12.2008 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 162376)
....

We are still waiting on cases from our plastics supplier (we only got a few cases (5 pcs) in for fit testing so far, those were approved and 2500 cases for our first production run were ordered.)

....

I think 2500 is not enough, the hole world is waiting to it (:

So i will look every day on CC Website!
I hope preorder to germany is not a problem. :angel:

greetz titan

DRIFT_BUGGY 04.12.2008 04:24 AM

I hope Castle sends Internationally?

titan 04.12.2008 04:33 AM

Yes they do. I find a long list of countries. Ship costs to germany 20$ for example.

Titan

MTBikerTim 04.14.2008 02:47 AM

So today is the day. Will the preorder open today? I'm not to worried if they don't as the date was only an estimate but it would be cool if it did wouldn't it.

DRIFT_BUGGY 04.14.2008 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim (Post 163141)
So today is the day. Will the preorder open today? I'm not to worried if they don't as the date was only an estimate but it would be cool if it did wouldn't it.


I thought it was changed till late April 25thish?

titan 04.14.2008 05:27 AM

Castle Creation is not accepting paypal right?
On the website was no paypal sign.

So i can empty my paypal money.

Titan

83gt 04.14.2008 07:06 AM

"shipping by the end of april", is all that I heard. Where'd you get april 14th ? ?

Arct1k 04.14.2008 08:16 AM

Patrick mentioned that pre-order and a "special deal" would open today...

JERRY2KONE 04.14.2008 08:20 AM

Timing
 
Timing is everything. I would not want to be the guys at CC right now either working the early orders or deflecting calls as to why nothing has happened yet. There is going to be a mad frenzy to be the first to have the MMM in hand. Someone is going to get hurt in the dash to the finish line:yes::gasp:.

MTBikerTim 04.14.2008 09:07 AM

I think every body has learnt to be patient by now haven't they?


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