I don't think Mike would blow smoke up our a$$ about this controller. He has plenty of speed controllers for sale. The R1 won't make or break him. The R1 may have problems in some applications, but if Mike says it worked fine for him in his truck, I believe him. :yes:

I would love to see a video of Mike using this controller in a RC. Videos can prove a good point if something does or doesn't work.

I just want to see this controller in action. I haven't seen a video of it yet.

Well, The hotwire software is available on tekin website, I'm looking forward to know if the potential update it contain while help !
http://www.teamtekin.com/hotwire/hotwire.html

Just few quote from Tekin support forum

"I agree with Canon. My R1 pro cogs about 1/2 throtle and this causes the car to become very unstable and throws the back end out. I am a bees gorgeous away from sending mine back.
The only light at the end of the tunel seems to be this firmware upgrade. When is Tekin help address the issues we are facing with the speedys in Australia? It seems that our batch came out with a firmware version that it shouldn't have? I spent 5 hours testing mine with different profiles and settings today. Nothing I did made a difference. I know that my motor is fine and also my radio settings are fine. They work well together with a Sphere."

"I received my R1 Pro 1 week ago and was very excited to go racing Wed night. Hooked it up as described to my Novak 10.5 and noticed right off the bat that the acceleration was very slow. Meaning you could hear the time delay it took the car to spin-up which is far slower them my Novak controller. I adjusted everything possible and was not able to change the start-up speed. When the races started cars behind me actually rear ended me because the car would not accelerate fast enough. Of course i did experience the cogging affect everyone is seeing also which from a stand still is tolerable. The part that is not, is if the car is rolling backwards it will not start until the motor has stopped. This effect and the slow acceleration are just not tolerable."

I got R1 pro for two weeks ago, I found it move backward then run at start up every time and it no respond for 3 to 4 seconds after a heavy brake or after a accident. I am playing with 5 cells and 3.5 brushless motor.



People could argue that it will be fixed soon, maybe, but even if it's high performance ESC the price seem to be a bit high and the wire is sold seperatly (I guess I'm too much used to CC stuff :P)

I have one here that I am planning to run on 5s in a 1/8 buggy. I am just waiting for the Hotwire to be released before installing it. I want to set a proper LVC for 5s lipo and the manual programing does not allow this. Hopefully the Hotwire is released soon. I have had one ordered and on backorder from tower for 6 weeks now.

I will for sure post my results when I get anything to report. I have been doing my own web scan for problems with the R1Pro and everything I see is from guys running 4 or 5 cell NiMH and very low turn motors. I really haven't seen any other complaints. I will be running a Hacker 10XL on 5s an I'll let you know how it works. I replaced the stock capacitor with a 1000mfd 35V cap to handle the higher voltage.

Here it is all wired and soldered up just waiting for the Hotwire so I can program it properly for my application.

I bought it used for a very nice price from a guy that had the same problem with the 5 NiMH cell oval carpet racing application with the ultra low turn motor. Unfortunately the guy had some pretty sad soldering skills and scared the front of the controller with the soldering iron. (but it shouldn't effect the function)

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG2931.jpg

R1Pro
 

I respect your opinion for sure, but you must not know me very well to suggest that I posted my results for my own benefit("something to win" as you put it) - I didn't have any to sell when I posted the result as a matter of fact - it was a few weeks before I actually had any additional units in stock. I don't work for Tekin, either - and I have managed to survive in this brushless business for a few years now - long before this product was even so much as a thought or idea in all reality. I simply had nothing to gain by posting the information - and as a rule I simply DON"T post fiction at all.

I simply stated that for me - in my 3905 emaxx test truck - I experienced the performance I expected - there was no noticeable cogging and the results were very smooth - as smooth as any other sensorless controller and smoother than most is what I wrote IIRC(the new Castle firmware was also not available at the time of my posting - Castle controllers frankly were far worse than my R1Pro BEFORE the latest upgrade). I tried slow starts, fast starts and everything in between. I drove the truck with the intent of "finding out" what the controller was all about in the session. I used a 35 volt 1800mf capacitor on the controller with 4s lipo, a 22 tooth pinion on the stock spur(68t?) and a KB 7xl motor for the test session I wrote about. I didn't try it in a TC or with a Novak motor, nor did I make mention of these setups in my assessment. No smoke and mirrors or any "sales mission" were part of the equation - I simply wanted to make a comment for the users here to digest - from what they hopefully consider a reliable and experienced source.

I can't argue the results or posts of others - I can only tell my own tale. I can promise that my particular setup DID NOT suffer from a bad solder job, poor connections, poor batteries, inadequate capacitance, stuck drive train, bad bearings or any other potential pitfall that can and usually does lead to problems such as cogging, delay or otherwise sub standard performance. I did install the largest pinion I had available for the test, though. My controller in my truck worked as I described it. Period. Get your video camera and come watch if you like - I will gladly drive it for a movie. :)

You have pics of your instal with the R1PRO Mike?

wow, that cap really shows just how small the esc is.

Excuse me if this seems strange to me. So am I reading this right. The R1Pro is the same esc as what the MT will be!? I eman I have been waiting to see this come out and last I knew it wasnt availabe and now I am reading this all and it appears that you guys are stateing it is the same ESC unit. If not whats the deal with the MT anyways?

The way I understand it is the MT will be the same basic electronics as the pro, but with a different case that has heatsinks. I dont know for sure but that is what I have been hearing around the forums.

I've got some information About R1 from a french forum. It's that R1 work really well if you use there motors (sound logical ...) , There setup is a lot torque based, on 1/10 th scale you need to gear like x1.5 taller than other brand (novak/lrp). Some problem of overheating have been report when used with lrp 4.5.

http://www.petitrc.com/_forumphp//sh...t=33889&page=3

I will give you my point on there motor soon, I want to try one with my MM

All i have read on RC Tech, was that it was the higher turn sensored motors suffered cogging. The novak type 10.5 was ok on the old firmware, it was the 13.5 and up that had troubles. Haven't heard anything about non sensored motors. Does anyone know if the Tekin Red line motors are slotted or not? I bet not if they're motors work without problems

So basicly, those who run the esc with low cell counts and low turned- sensor based motors are the ones who are having problems with it.....

Ok I did order my Tekin redLine motor, I will let you know my point on this motor.

Yes, the new software is nice, the mod motors dont have issues, the 10.5 still has hiccups, and the 13.5 (IMO) is still a no go

OK, got new today on the Tekin Monster system and it looks as if its name is changing. Its not much but it is better than nothing. MMM will still be out before this will. Maybe.

(team3six)
Hi. I have been awaiting and trying to figure out something that no one in the RC world is aware of. When is the MT coming out, how much will it be, and what will the specs be, ect, ect, ect? I goto the website often and still I wait for the Monster to be released. Please if you could shed some light on it I would appreciate it. Thanks

(Tekin)
I am going to say about 4 months. We will be releasing the RS next month and than we will finish up the MT I believe the name is going to the RX8 or R8X. I have no idea on price yet. I know it is going to be a beast and is suppose to be able to handle up to a 6s Li-Po pack and will be compatible with motors like the Neu motor etc. and will be compatible with the Tekin Hotwire. . Other than that I do not have a lot of information

Scooter
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Richmond Hts OH 44143

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If the R1PRO handles 5s lipo, then I hope the RX8 does more then 6s, but I guess even a true 6s esc for a nice-ish price would be good

Check out the post on rctech http://rctech.net/forum/showthread.p...58327&page=162

Tekin is also planning to offer a 1/8 BL controller and motors very soon. We just finished the pcb layouts and are headed to proto boards. We might slip out a concept drawing pretty soon. All the same great features as our 1/10 controller including a sensor plug and switchng BEC. We did go with a top heat sink and fan for extreme power ability.

We have already had success with our R1pro in 1/8 scale also. We have raced it competively with no fan in buggy and truggy with 4s lipo. Just shows how over beefed that controller really is. Not recomended, but you guys rarely pay attention to that anyway. With the kind of mods you are doing to the MM by adding fans it handles it easily......

Tekin Prez

Good good. Sounds like he has been visting RCM secretly, judging by some of those comments.... :whistle:

the prez actually is a member here, so I am sure he checks in to see some of our comments. anyways good to see some for info on there system. Now the qustion is which one will get my $$$$. The mmm, rx8 or novaks new system when that comes out.

From my understanding - it will only handle up to 5s, correct?

there 8th scale one will be made for up to 6s.

Are you sure? The last I heard was they didn't feel they needed to produce anything over 5s. Can someone help out with more detailed info/specs?

Here's what I recall:

I am sure but give me a few minutes and I will find a link for you.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...58327&page=162

this is the best I could find right now. on post 4853 the prez says about the lvc being able to be set up to 6s and how the motors will be similar in quality to nue's but not as expensive.

Interesting. Thanks for the info & link gixxer.

Any updates?
Im guessing it will be around the $260 mark as the R1 Pro is around the 230 mark

The price should be a little less than the R1pro since it only has 2 pcb's instead of 3 and less fets. Small is always more expensive.

for more info check out the prez's post. hope this help.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showpost...90&postcount=5

under 200$ is what i hear too...

probably a tad more expensive than mmm ['competetively priced' is what they have said by letter].

I think it will have to be priced pretty close to the same as the MMM for them to have decent sales #'s with the R1MT.

Although I really wonder how their sales of the R1PRO are doing. At $225 + the cost of the hotwire at ~$38 (if you want PC programming), it's a pretty penny for an ESC for a 1/10th scale vehicle. I think that's about $50+ more than most competitive 1/10th ESC's on the market (LRP, Speed Passion, Novak).

We can't deny the fact, though, that the R1Pro is quite possible the smallest sensorless controller in the market. Working on this thing( soldering and so...) is a breez and I can't wait to try it. My first impression of this thing is much greater than the Mamba Max.

I'll definately wait for the RX8 as long as it will handle more cells than the Monster, no matter the cost, no matter the wait.

I've asked Jim for a HV version and I think he'll probably try to make one after the Rx8 comes out.

Hows this???
RX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmHZcUo8o0Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_SvzMAIcx0

RX8 is a dreivative of the the R1pro with a heatsink and a Fan

Is the 1st video at a secret location? Seems to be hidden. Still no shots of the RX8 in the vids just someone playing with it :whip: Surely someone got photos of it at the event in the 2nd vid

Interesting...is this thing getting any closer to production?

I'm just sick of all the vaporware and backorders in RC right now...

That first video is at the Tekin facility in Idaho.

Btw are there contraller made by them or is it oem stuff ?

Those videos were posted up 4 weeks ago