I am not happy with the Traxxas forum, I am not biased against their products. If it were Losi who made the truck, I would feel the same about it. We wanted a Traxxas crawler and this is what we got. We already had a low speed off-road truck in the Maxx and didn't really need another one. I was just pointing out what I felt needed improvement and someone thought I was thrashing the company. That just isn't so. I love some Traxxas products. The E-Revo, the Maxx trucks, the Rusty and Bandit VXLs and the best starter truck of all time, the Stampede. I own many Traxxas vehicles. I just really wanted to see a crawler from them, not a jacked up Revo.

Ya I think a lot of people were expecting a crawler. It will be interesting to try in on the rocks and see how it does, but the weight distribution is all wrong for a crawler. I think traxxas looks at the big picture, which means that as much as crawling is getting popular its still not popular enough and wont get them enough sales. Selectable lockers are a nice feature, but real crawlers dont need them.
This truck will appeal to the masses. I personally think my emaxx 3905 is just a bit too low in terms of ground clearance, but its the perfect combo between speed and stability. This truck will bridge that gap.
I will agree that I think that a single 775 motor is not going to be stellar, but I'm hoping that my 970 will fit. I wanted to go brushless but I dont think thats going to work for that truck.

I saw one of the members mod an e-revo and as soon as I saw it I thought I had to have one. Here are some pics. The thing is just a monster. I was looking to build something like this, but then the summit came out. So do you think I would be better off just modding an emaxx, locking the rear diffs? Are there extended arms for the emaxx that would give it the wider/taller stance? or are those arms just for the e-revo?

I am looking at putting a dewalt 12volt motor in mine (I seen a pic of someone doing it in there e-revo) Now that motor will have huge amounts of torque and still git up ang go when need be. Hope with the low gearing and a huge motor it doesnt trash the drivetrain to bad.

The problem with jacking up a Revo or Maxx, or any other independent suspension vehicle, is the angle of the drivelines. A CV joint just can't handle the angles of super high trucks, exactly like the real thing. Think of a Chevy Z71. At high lift, the front driveshafts snap like twigs and throw the geometry off. Anyone who builds a Z71 will almost always do a solid axle swap. It preserves the geometry under any amount of lift or flex. All you need to jack a Maxx up are longer shocks and turnbuckles. But the lift will cause broken shafts and funky handling.

That makes sense. So you think the Summit is going to have the same problem then? Might be why they are limiting the speed on that thing.

I think if the Summit gets any more power than stock then yes, there will be driveline failures. I don't know if they are going to fail stock, I can only assume they will. They did, however, redesign the shafts and added a better CV joint to accomodate the increased angle. They have tried this on full size trucks which failed horribly and that is the reason I believe these will fail as well. I am almost positive they will crumble under any more power, and brushless will most certainly kill them.

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I like the wheels and tires. One more issue I see is all those servos. There is a known problem with the Traxxas units stripping the plastic gears, I can only wonder what kind of nightmare those will pose unless they are some metal geared pieces. I'm less impressed now that I was before. I do like the lights built into the bumpers.

lol, it was easy enough to strip the gears in the Stampede let alone something this big

Well I can tell you from experience.
You put a spool in the emaxx or lock any other trucks diff solid.
They really start turning like crap.
As far as locking the diffs in at speed.
As long as the tires are spinning at same speed.
There should be no issues.
I haven't seen where they posted a speed of the truck.
I would guess it should still be close to 30 mph.
The 775 motors was more powerful and faster then 2 550s.
Suspension is revo design with hi travel rockers and higher rate springs to accomendate.
It is not a rock crawler. It is not a racer. I don't do either so to me.
This FREAKING THING ROCKS!!!
The trans has a gear ratio of like 1.8 to 1 hi
4.0 + in low to one.
Where else can you get a truck to run 25 mph (not sure of top speed)
Then go hill climbing or woods bashing.
I see my next RC truck.

This could be cool.

I would love to have one! My e-revo would be for racing and the summit for the bashing. It truely is a perfect world

man. you are just a hater. :no: