I have one small one that is making vaccines and is working on an H1N1. Not a whole lot in it tho. I'm always iffy on the biotechs tho. So much can go wrong, and its an expensive business to start with. Lot of returns possible, but lots of risk too.

Risk is there, but with the GOV involved in this I think returns outweighs the risks. Scare tactics will play a big part in this and with more and more getting the vaccines, the companies making it will just profit more from it. Nice profit for a not so big Pharmaceutical company could mean big bucks if a bigger company is looking at them. You know who wins when that happens right?

Do you mean somebody other than the shareholders who see their shares rise many multiples?
..Wondering what you are up to now..... :)

You got it, but there could well be others as well on the side.

I'm up to something and it's a bit complex for me to discuss it here, but the world will soon find out when all the information is in my hands.

We started this game at school. We arent using the same game but we get $100,000 to start with and can invest in any stock and it has to be a minimum of 100 shares. So far my group has invested in Apple hoping it will rise back up with the new computers and iPhone they just came out with. It is pretty fun.

With $100K, you would profit more from a lower priced stock. A company with not so many competitors with real cash on hand. A few people thinks Apple will not go much higher and you don't want to get caught on a downward trend of a stock. Think about it: at $188 would allow you to buy about 530 share and lets say it goes to $200, you'll only profit like $6,300+. Now lets say you use the $100K and buy Microsoft at $27 that would get you about 3700 share and lets say it goes to $30, you'll make $11,100+. Quantity rules.

Well I will keep that in mind when I go in to check our status and do some trading on Wednesday. We have like 25 shares of Microsoft right now so I will see what we bought it at and how its doing.

CIT files for CH 11. I hope it doesn't cause a panic.

IDK, its been coming or while so its not exactly a shock. OTOH the market has been jittery and CIT has a large reach.

One way or the other, I'm really wishing I sold more off as I was worried about... oh wells...

I thought they were going to get funds from a few places to keep them out of BK, but that didn't happen. The market right now reacts to many things and some doesn't make sense. Any news will make it go either way. I'll hold my positions and see how they react.

I should've loaded on GE.

Oh boy.

Man, I'd been holding onto a ton of cash since Nov and just bought in on last Fri.

What bad timing. :(

Back to neg buying pwer again... wonder if it will turn back fairly soon

I'm really hoping it's not the time yet. I would've thought they (The ones taht control the market) would wait a little. Lets see how low it'll go. I'll be holding my positions in the game just to see.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<.

This market sucks. Oh how I wish I would have held onto my cash. I'm afraid to open the game to see how much $$ I'm down.

It kind of went up a little too fast. I would've felt better if it went up slowly. Lets see how far down it'll go. I'm down big time in the game as well.

Lets see if we're going to be green today.

Did somebody hit the panic button?

I tried to. Turns out it was out of service and the parts are on backorder.
somehow ended in the green tho.
Not that it matters much, alot of my holdings are down 40% from a few weeks ago :cry:

:lol: I ended positive today, I'm shocked. Lets see where things will stay heading to the right and up instead down :lol:.

Go WAMUQ and LEHMQ :party::party::party:, EDAP is showing good sign as well. Finally got more buying power so I'll be loading up some C and a few others I like.

I would love to see the market track sideways for a while instead of going up or down sharply.

A few of my stocks have picked up finally again and given me some buying power back. Hopefully some good things will follow. I've wanted to do some things, but a couple major positions were so far down I was just stuck. We'll see what happens. G/l

If I see one of my lagging position getting some steam, I just pick up more at the cheaper price and hope for the best :lol:. It usually pays out good in the end.

Quoting myself here....:lol: Damn WAMUQ and LEHMQ.

That's assuming you had any $ to buy. I had nothing to avg down w/. ;)

Did avg down on a couple things, mostly some realignments. I'm still way down on PNX from oct. Stupid me tried to daytrade it a bit at the top after I made a really nice gain in it, held it too long and rode it all the way back down. The margins in this game can really hurt you if you are on the wrong side of it. Sell for too much of a loss and its really hard to get the buying power back had you just held on to it thru the dip. eh, oh wells.

We'll see how it does, I like this mix of stocks better than the ones I had for the last couple mos. Might be a bit to realize, but hopefully plays out well.

Yes, for me the $ was gone for a while, but now I'm using some of my gains and dumping it mainly on C.

Man C is doing a good job for me in the game now. I hope it stays bellow from the initial price I paid to rack up more profit if my other positions goes well to give me more buying power.

I had picked up a little bit last week ~$3.50, not a major position tho.
Curious to your thoughts on C. They've been selling off a lot of units to repay debt, but do you think they will finally breakout from the $4-5 ceiling they've had for the last year?

Well, C like many other banks in my point of view stands for "Criminals" :lol:. Now, if you want to look at it another way "$$$$$", it can make you some money, but "When?" is the magical question. All the large cap stocks are good to hold specially the ones at bellow $10. Me personally, I have no stocks :angel:, don't really need it now. The real economy (Behind what is posted by the media) looks like crap, so I really don't know if it might be a good time to buy anything that has no value. It's only a matter of time before things might go south for good. I honestly hope I'm 10000000000000% wrong though.

Finally green on C in the game. Lets see how long it'll stay there. I might clean up my portfolio and just go with solid positions. What do you think Finnster? Do you have any good picks I don't know about?

lol, I'm not sure I know anything you don't already know about.
I'm mostly heavy on oils and energy, seems the more reliable play as long as the eco doesn't crap out amd prices stay higher. A lot of companies got killed last year, and low prices didn't help either. Some are doing much better now w/ the increased oil prices, and 2010 earnings should be better than '09 as long as prices stay up and if they didn't get buried in debt. Energy is more dependent on world eco than just the US, so spreads out risk a bit. Hopefully. :)

Other than that just picked up some beatdown losers w/ potential to pick back up a bit. May take a while tho. Nothing terribly exciting. We are coming close to 52wk highs again, so I'm wary of a pullback. Prolly will happen w/ my game portfolio, so hopefully I spent my buying power well while I had it. What I'd really like to see are some job growth #'s, even if its meager. It seems like there are signs it might be coming, but until it really does, everything is pretty tenuous. There are alot of things that can frag the whole thing up.

Just curious on your heavy movement into C (in the game not RL.) I've never really understood the heavy trading in C beyond daytraders and speculators. Fundamentals seem pretty bad, and there are so many wildcards there w. the lg govt ownership and all the other nonsense that goes on w/ the banks. I did buy some financials funds in RL last year after the crash, but I sold those off in Oct and haven't looked back. Made good $ off those, but way too risky for my tastes now even if the Fed is just printing money for them.

In the game I got a small 1% position on C. Seemed low and looked like was due for a bit of a run, but if it hits $4.50 I'd be happy. Otherwise just wild speculation. Given all your grandslams so far, I was just wondering if you were looking for something bigger.

I learn new things everyday :lol:. I like how you think and it's always good to bet on things people need, specially in colder climates.

A pullback will come. People like to take profits and sometimes a panic will happen, but it's just part of the market.

Well, the real story goes deeper, but I'll keep it simple. I had a choice of companies such as BofA, JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo and a few other big financial. Out of the big ones out there, which is the cheapest? I think Citi is. If you bought it in RL for $3.50, then you would've been in good shape depending on how many share you bought. Keep in mind, Citi was one of the biggest if not the biggest company at a certain time. Greed is the name of the game and all investors should be greedy. If they want they can push the stock up to the moon. I would love to say more, but it would make me feel bad if what I say turns out to be a bad bet. I go with gut feeling even if the company is the worst in the world. I also don't think the US Gov. likes to loose money.

Ironic thing to say about someone who is $10T+ in debt, then again, when push comes to shove, I'm very sure in their ability to make things come out as a winner when they need it to. If anything, prolly gives them more incentive for things to come out a plus.

I do share your thoughts on the "when" aspect of it. I know a guy at work who bought C @ $1 a year ago. Had I some more spare cash to gamble with, I would have done the same. However, once it was up to $4 in april and Geithner was releasing the "stress test" results, I would have taken my money and ran (I even half jokingly said this to him when we were talking then.) A yr later and the F'ing stock is still @ $4, while the rest of the market is up 60-70%. He still has that stock and is still waiting for it to do something. Supposedly the gov't is going to try and cash out this yr, and Citi has been selling things off to pay debts, I just couldn't guess what the stock will be like as that happens, and what will remain of the company as it sells off the parts of it anybody else actually wants.


Makes me wonder about the whole Toyota thing as well. Obviously Toyota has made some mistakes, but its not hard to imagine the whole recall and safety controversy isn't being played up to beat down foriegn car makers when the domestics are the weakest they have ever been (excl F,) and the govt overseeing the car safety regs also owns the top competitor, all in the largest car market in the world. GM IPO in 2011 IIRC right?

The $10T+ should be close to $15T+ :lol:. I agree with the rest :lol:.

I don't think they'll sell C just yet. Something might push the stock higher as others got pushed on what might be media hype and other things depending on the industry.

The Toyota thing to me is just a big set up by who knows who :whistle:. I heard the 911 call from that 90MPH+ Prius and it was just plain simple BS. The 911 dispatcher said 2 times if the dumb ass had put the car on neutral, but the dumb ass didn't and probably acted like he didn't know what to do. A lot of people lack the simple thing called common sense and I know people in other places are :rofl: about that joker. I would definitely not let him drive again. Toyota should get smart and find the source of the problem, isn't most parts for their vehicles sourced out? Everything just sounds strange, specially when other auto makers take advantage of the problems.

I saw some of that call during lunch today. I liked the part where the guy called in saying his car wouldn't stop, and the dispatcher responded by asking what Toyota he drove. HA!!!!1

IDK about the rest. Could be the guy was freaking out and not thinking, or he may be the next balloon boy. Time will tell. What I don't like about all the drive by wire stuff is that you are not in control of the car anymore. You push the brake and hope that the computer decides to listen to you.
I also heard some advice from Toyota that to turn off the car (if its speeding out of control) is to hold down the "start button" for 3s, then the car will stop. Sounded like they are changing some of the programming, such as a brake signal will override a accel signal (brilliant!). What BS.
Thought I also heard that the car will lock out shifting to Neutral if you are driving, as Toyota assumes to are too fraking stupid to know how to drive, and you didn't really mean to do what you said and should be ignored. I thought this was the case in that runaway Lexus case. The driver (a cop even) had a rental Lexus, it took off on him, he calls 911 as he's going 100mph and already burned out his brakes from standing on them. If it won't shift to N, brakes don't work, and there is no key to turn off, WTF do you do? You are strapped to a 350hp 4000lb rocket and are just hoping for the best.


Personally, I like my manual and having control over my car. If I want to take it out of gear, I press in the clutch.


I did read also that alot of these car companies don't design their own parts anymore, and more function as integrators of 3rd party sourced parts. These parts may also be shared across many car co's if they use the same source company. GM may be using some of these pedals.

Edit: thought I did hear Mark Zandi quote $14T as the debt the other day. Ah, whats a few trillion between friends?

Here's a good one. You don't hear this happening else where. That one lady host in CNBC went to Brasil and spoke with a couple of the auto industry's CEOs there and they were not going through the same thing US was going through. It seems like technology is getting to a point where the Wall-E movie will come true one day. People are putting their faith more and more on technology. Is Facebook worth $11 billion dollars? That tell it all :lol:. Why all of a sudden people need to be on Facebook, Twitter and others alike. They even look at someone the wrong way if you're not in those places (Me :lol:). Here's what I hear: You're not on Facebook or Twitter, what's wrong with you? I tell them I'm not stupid and it's much better to talk to your school friend face to face. Do you know someone that doesn't have a cell phone? I do, me :lol:. I tell everyone that I don't buy a new car and I don't. I always put my car in neutral when I see a red light and not only that, my right hand is always on the gear shifter (Don't get any ideas Harold and James). I do miss my manual cars. I can't wait to start making my own car and hear all the crap like: No place to hook my Ipod, no mirror behind the visor and no TV. I will include a radio with a navigation system which might be useful.

Wow, that's a lot of typing :lol:. Good thing I don't sell to the auto companies here in the US, they would probably find a way to set me up some how :lol:.

I sure hope $14 or $15T+ is the only number showing :lol:, but I hear that number is only getting bigger, much bigger.

$11B.. lol Makes you wonder what RCM is worth.
Facebook and twitter? IDK, I don't get it. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I have desire to twat to strangers on the internet what I'm having for lunch, and I can't understand why anyone would care. Seems very narcissistic to me.

Then again, I do have a smartphone I love (RCM now lives in my pocket lol), but I haven't had cable or sat TV in my house since 2003. The $8500 it would have cost me since then would have truly bought me nothing.

RCM is priceless. I should make Carabook or Rostobook (cara and rosto means face in Portuguese) and Pipiutter (pipiu is the noise a bird makes in Portuguese). Holy crap, I'll take $1B for each :lol:. Just wait until shit happens to the internet. I guess the ones doing all the wrong hate when the real info can be found over the net. Good thing you're saving all that money, there's hardly anything good on TV nowadays. I do enjoy auto racing and Futebol. I have a blast with the other stuff. You should see how the truth can be found in cartoons, but people don't think nothing of it :lol:.

The smell of money:

http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...lionaires-2010

Edit: Someone familiar is in 8th place :lol:.

Finnster,

Here are a few numbers for the Debt:

US National Debt: $12,516,4XX,XXX,XXX.XX
US Federal Spending: $3,538,8XX,XXX,XXX.XX

So far the Debt per Citizen is just over $40K and the Debt per Taxpayer is just over $114K.

Here's the shocker.

US Total Debt: $54,754,4XX,XXX,XXX.XX

(The X donates to the amount that might change daily).

Remember when I said watch the billionaires. Amazing how that Brasilian guy :lol: made over $19B. A few made over $10B which is amazing.