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Muggydude 09.18.2010 08:17 PM

I think i will need to sell 2 of my Turnigy 5200 30c 2s harcases and get some matched 3s and 2s packs for 6s and 5s running. Anyone interested or want to trade?

Freezebyte 09.19.2010 12:28 AM

While getting the truck prepped up for a bash session at the track tonight, I noticed the damn motor slide forward AGAIN!!! I never had this issue on my first Flux, never! I cranked those farking motor clamp bolts helluva hard with red loctite the first time this happened! Well, enough of this, I'm zip tying the damn thing in place, lets see it try and slide forward now!

And man, I can't believe how quickly my stock pinion gear has been eaten away so far after just a few runs. Looks like another order to RCM soon



http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...e2/ziphold.jpg

Freezebyte 09.19.2010 03:39 AM

I've decided im gonna go back to the XL conversion but reduce my pinion to 18t to gain back some torque to help me wheelie and hopefully let me control the truck in the air a bit easier. It should help reduce my temps as well. Now that i've got perspective of the truck on how it performs and handles in both stock and XL platforms, I have a better idea of what I need to change on it to get it to perform how I like. After replacing/upgrading the pinion, im gonna upgrade to 6s power as I think I will really enjoy it with the XL conversion as well as NEED the XL stability to maintain control of the truck with 22.2v of power vs on the stock chassis layout. I think wheelies and backflips will be no problem with 6s lipos churning those big wheels, but, only one way to find out!!!

Looks like its gonna be another late night tear down and cleanup.....I hate driving in wet weather, I really need to stop, the cleanup doesn't make it worthwhile.

josh9mille 09.19.2010 05:02 AM

Good choice! It will be a blast! trust me.

88gtanotchback 09.19.2010 10:51 AM

i cant wait to see it on 6s. its funny how HPI tells people to run a 25t pinion on 6s when in fact everyone seems to gear down...

Freezebyte 09.19.2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 88gtanotchback (Post 380704)
i cant wait to see it on 6s. its funny how HPI tells people to run a 25t pinion on 6s when in fact everyone seems to gear down...

Because that enables you along with their phatline tires to reach 62mph as they advertise the truck capable of, otherwise it would be false marketing.

reno911 09.19.2010 01:23 PM

Freeze glad to hear your getting out all the kinks, 6s should be interesting, I want a vid of that. As your tire explodes of the wheel... I hear you only like running the truck in warm dry weather ah? Cleaning is not your trade ah? Nonsense, get your ass out in that mud and throw up some roosts. 6s and mud, now that makes me happy just thinking about it. Yummy mud!

Freezebyte 09.19.2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno911 (Post 380718)
? Cleaning is not your trade ah? Nonsense, get your ass out in that mud and throw up some roosts. 6s and mud, now that makes me happy just thinking about it. Yummy mud!


I'm still cleaning my damn truck of from yesterday, so screw that crap. You go ahead, i'll watch

reno911 09.19.2010 02:26 PM

Ehh, all you need is an air compressor and possible some Simple Green in a spray bottle. If not, take out electronics, hose down, air dry or air compress. Unless your going through and cleaning everything back to a stock shine, than I have nothing to say.

88gtanotchback 09.19.2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno911 (Post 380728)
Ehh, all you need is an air compressor and possible some Simple Green in a spray bottle. If not, take out electronics, hose down, air dry or air compress. Unless your going through and cleaning everything back to a stock shine, than I have nothing to say.

I like doing the tear down. you always find stuff to tweak, replace, repair. that and the bearing like it better that way then taking the water shot. :lol:

Freezebyte 09.19.2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno911 (Post 380728)
Unless your going through and cleaning everything back to a stock shine, than I have nothing to say.


Thats the only way I do it

thzero 09.19.2010 05:07 PM

Go figure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 380734)
Thats the only way I do it


josh9mille 09.19.2010 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 380734)
Thats the only way I do it

OCD much?

reno911 09.19.2010 11:35 PM

Freeze there are models that don't get dirty and need as much attention and detail as these. They don't come with motors or anything but they can bring joy to someone like yourself.

Or maybe you should look into carpet racing, then again the fibers might cause an irritation because they can be seen as something dirty.

A Savage Flux that is never to get truly bashed, that is the only thing I disagree with this build. Otherwise pretty bad ass.

ZippyBasher 09.20.2010 09:28 AM

Hey Freeze, Build Looks Great!

If you dont mind can you tell me what the Wheelbase is with Stock Flux TVP and Also with The FLM XL TVP? Thank You Sir.

JThiessen 09.20.2010 09:36 AM

Just a thought on your motor sliding. Take a piece of scotch brite or sandpaper and scuff up the inside of the motor mount. Personally, I'd do the motor too - but I doubt you'd like the looks of it.

thzero 09.20.2010 09:53 AM

You can find the information at HPI's website. Or heck Tower has most of the info too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZippyBasher (Post 380792)
Hey Freeze, Build Looks Great!

If you dont mind can you tell me what the Wheelbase is with Stock Flux TVP and Also with The FLM XL TVP? Thank You Sir.


Finnster 09.20.2010 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZippyBasher (Post 380792)
Hey Freeze, Build Looks Great!

If you dont mind can you tell me what the Wheelbase is with Stock Flux TVP and Also with The FLM XL TVP? Thank You Sir.

The XL has a WB of 390mm. The flux is ~55mm shorter iirc

Freezebyte 09.26.2010 06:56 PM

Went bashing on Friday and managed to get some good shots before I fried the pinion gear. Time to order an RCM one....


http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...e2/liftoff.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m.../dustspin2.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...2/dustspin.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m.../dustspin4.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m.../dustspin3.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...piniongone.jpg

Bondonutz 09.26.2010 07:01 PM

The back drop of Picture number 1 is beautiful, no mountains in Fl.

Muggydude 09.26.2010 09:18 PM

If you think those are mountains, come to Colorado!:yes:

ZippyBasher 09.26.2010 09:50 PM

LOL I thought the same and I am from Cali! But Freeze the first shot looks Sick as well as the body.

But does that body rub the tire when turned and shocks compressed? Pic 2 looks close...

reno911 09.26.2010 10:03 PM

My new Desktop!
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m.../dustspin4.jpg

josh9mille 09.27.2010 01:41 AM

in pic 3 you can see the gorilla tape doing its job, with the downfall of balooning sidewalls (you can see the profile of the tire is actually a "U" shape) and lack of in-air control

Freezebyte 09.27.2010 02:56 AM

Reno, I can make a bigger size of that pic if you want, LMK

Bondonutz 09.27.2010 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muggydude (Post 381722)
If you think those are mountains, come to Colorado!:yes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZippyBasher (Post 381728)
LOL I thought the same and I am from Cali!

Here in FL a mountain is a huge dirt pile at a construction sight, FL is flat till you get up to the state line and then we have "Hills". :oops:

thzero 09.27.2010 08:33 AM

Um... you realize of course that Missoula in western Montana is in the same mountain range, the ROCKIES, that cut through western/central Colorado?! That "mountain" is nothing but a shot of the foothills.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muggydude (Post 381722)
If you think those are mountains, come to Colorado!:yes:


Freezebyte 09.27.2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 381792)
Um... you realize of course that Missoula in western Montana is in the same mountain range, the ROCKIES, that cut through western/central Colorado?! That "mountain" is nothing but a shot of the foothills.

I should go bashing at the foot of the Mission Mountain range. Now those are mountains, I drive by em on a weekly basis and a good family friends ashes are spread up there as well

reno911 09.27.2010 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 381773)
Reno, I can make a bigger size of that pic if you want, LMK

I'll pm you my e-mail that would be awesome!

Freezebyte 09.27.2010 04:58 PM

I really wanna get a high speed camera, im getting so envious of other slow mo rc vids on youtube.

Finnster 09.27.2010 05:15 PM

True dat just being a dinky foothill. MT doesn't have any fourteeners tho. Actually not even any 13ers.

The rockies thru MT are awesome, as are CO. I was always impressed w/ the MT rockies in how raw they are vs the more eroded CO mtns.

The diversity of the mtns in CO is awesome. Being able to get to the top of a 14er and look down on the plains 9000 feet below is amazing. Being able to drive down and stop a
world class microbrew on the way home makes it even better. :)

G/l on the new pinion. Taping looks like its working well

thzero 09.27.2010 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 381874)
True dat just being a dinky foothill. MT doesn't have any fourteeners tho. Actually not even any 13ers.

Idaho, MT and Wyoming rockies are far better, maybe not as tall, but better than CO mountains IMO... but thats all where I grew up so I am biased. Although the BC/Alberta range is even more "raw" I do recall. My personal favs are the "Grand Tetons".

Muggydude 09.27.2010 05:55 PM

I was merely commenting on the mountain in the picture.And as far as Co mountains being better, have you ever skied here? Some of the best in the US, and north america.

thzero 09.27.2010 06:14 PM

I've skied in Idaho (Kelly Canyon, Pebble Creek, Sun Valley), Montana (Big Sky, Bridger Bowl), Colorado (Breckenridge, Beaver Creek, Keystone, Vail, Telluride, Durango), Utah (Alta, Park City, Snowbird), Wyoming (Grand Targhee, Jackson Hole), California (Kirkwood, Northstar, Heavenly, Sqaw Valley), Oregon (Mt. Hood), New Mexico (Angelfire), BC (Whistler), and Alberta (Lake Louise). Not to mention Wisconsin (Cascade, Devils Head) and Michigan (Boyne)... hahaha.

Thats just the big names, or personal local favorites although I do really like Targhee/Jackson Hole, and the Tahoe region. But in general, I wouldn't say one is better than the other either... most offer something unique or different, and frankly its skiing so as long as they got some fresh powder who cares!??! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muggydude (Post 381888)
I was merely commenting on the mountain in the picture.And as far as Co mountains being better, have you ever skied here? Some of the best in the US, and north america.


Muggydude 09.27.2010 09:01 PM

:lol:I agree with your last statement 100%! Also depends on your abilities. Steamboat, Vail, Aspen, and Winter park are all excellent. very off topic!

Freezebyte 09.28.2010 03:31 PM

I just realized I forgot to post a listing of all the hop ups and mods I did to the truck, silly me

HPI Sway bar set
HPI HD drive gear
HPI HD cup joints
HPI HD servo saver spring
HPI Hellfire white springs
HPI Steering upgrade bearings
HPI Super HD wide axels
HPI extended rear dogbone
HPI GT-S tires w/gorilla tape to reduce ballooning
Shimmed center tranny to reduce gear play
Silver Bad Horsie shock covers
White Mugen Seiki MT 5 spoke wheels
Blue RPM suspension rms
Tork motor endbell sealed with HPI button head screws to prevent dirt intake
Increased steering hub modifications
Modified battery trays with velcro safety straps
Proline Desert Rat Slash SC body
FLM Savage XL TVP aluminum chassis
FLM Savage XL chassis aluminum skid plate
Front and rear diffs w/50k oil
RC Monster hardened 18t pinion
Deanodized stock purple savage chassis parts to plain aluminum color
Turnigy hardcase 5200mah 30c 2s lipos

josh9mille 09.29.2010 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 382048)
I just realized I forgot to post a listing of all the hop ups and mods I did to the truck, silly me

HPI Sway bar set
HPI HD drive gear
HPI HD cup joints
HPI HD servo saver spring
HPI Hellfire white springs
HPI Steering upgrade bearings
HPI Super HD wide axels
HPI Bulletproof diffs
HPI stock 2.4ghz radio

HPI extended rear dogbone
HPI GT-S tires w/gorilla tape to reduce ballooning
Shimmed center tranny to reduce gear play
Silver Bad Horsie shock covers
White Mugen Seiki MT 5 spoke wheels
Blue RPM suspension rms
Tork motor endbell sealed with HPI button head screws to prevent dirt intake
Increased steering hub modifications
Modified battery trays with velcro safety straps
Proline Desert Rat Slash SC body
FLM Savage XL TVP aluminum chassis
FLM Savage XL chassis aluminum skid plate
Front and rear diffs w/50k oil
RC Monster hardened 18t pinion
Deanodized stock purple savage chassis parts to plain aluminum color
Turnigy hardcase 5200mah 30c 2s lipos

Those are mods and/or hop-ups?

Freezebyte 09.29.2010 01:55 AM

Woops, once again my beligerant copying and pasting get me into trouble

Finnster 09.29.2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 382122)
Woops, once again my beligerant copying and pasting get me into trouble


I don't think that word means what you think it means

Then again, looking at some other threads, maybe you do.

:whistle:

Freezebyte 09.29.2010 02:59 PM

Gawd damnit....


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