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Krawlin 02.03.2011 12:10 AM

Steel Wizard? :lol: I like that, just as long as Linc or Harold don't see that and twist it in some strange way....

Us MGT guys don't take crap from E-Revo gangs though, lol.


All is well here, just been busy. Have yet to order my solid bullet chunk of aluminum from McMaster for my motor mount. I will be making 2 of them most likely as I am getting a 3"x3"x6" block of 6061-T6, which is enough for 2. If the offer was high enough I'd consider selling one, but I like the idea of having the only 2 in existence. :intello:

The Dude 02.12.2011 07:29 AM

Hi

anyone have his kit yet ??
I'm just want to know what you thinks about this ??

nms 02.12.2011 08:25 PM

hi ppl,

here is some news from my conversion.
allready have the motor mount, center diff and motor.
i'm using a motor mount from dude friend (many thanks to both of them) and the Slipperential 1/8 Center Slipper Diff from rc-monster.

the center diff looks very nice and fit perfectly in the motor mount. here are some pictures

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...otormounta.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...otormountb.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...otormountc.jpg

this pieces fits perfect in the chassis but because i choose a 50 mt spur gear i need to cut a litle the chassis where the spur gear pass. here some photos of the marks in the chassis a will cut.

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...smarktocut.jpg

tomorow i will cut the chassis and put more photos.

Hyper-5 02.12.2011 10:12 PM

great work on the car, what tekin motor are you running, and is it good? lm thinkinh of putting the Tekin 2D 2650kV motor but not to sure if its anygood, atm this is my setup, top speed of 99km/h but not quick enough:

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/pict...&pictureid=825

bundyracer1 02.12.2011 11:59 PM

i just figured you have a 1/10 motor in your 1/8 car? that motor must heat up a fair bit?

Hyper-5 02.13.2011 12:01 AM

its not, its a 1/8 speed passion silverarrow motor 3.5t, looks like it though

bundyracer1 02.13.2011 12:04 AM

ok my mistake lol and u said you are running it on 3s wat volt can the motor handle?

Hyper-5 02.13.2011 12:19 AM

lm not to sure, havn't looked into it yet, its a 5780kV motor

Krawlin 02.13.2011 03:01 AM

Way to hijack the thread with something that is not even close to an MGT.... :no::whip:

The Dude 02.13.2011 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krawlin (Post 397756)
Way to hijack the thread with something that is not even close to an MGT.... :no::whip:

+1
:slap:

very happy for you Nms !!:yes:

you have the first version :intello:
post the pics asap :whistle:

suicideneil 02.13.2011 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hyper-5 (Post 397738)
lm not to sure, havn't looked into it yet, its a 5780kV motor

That is not a 1/8 motor. That is a speedpassion 1/10 turd with a 1/8 badge- same size & style as a hvmaxx motor ( 380xl in a 550 can ). Any true 1/8 motor would not have a kv much in excess of ~2500kv...

Start your own thread if you want to post pictures and discuss your setup. :rules:

nms 02.13.2011 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 397762)
+1
:slap:

very happy for you Nms !!:yes:

you have the first version :intello:
post the pics asap :whistle:


what do you mean about first version? there is allready a second version or i got the first one after you?

nms 02.13.2011 08:19 PM

here is the result of my first day working in the MGT conversion

chassis cuted fot the 50t sput feet work well

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...k/spur5otb.jpg

the test's to study everything gone stay

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...lok/testeb.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...ok/ensaiof.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...ok/ensaioh.jpg

once the motor is two big and only have 2 screws holding him to the motor mount i dicided to do a piece to support the rear part of the motor. it will be fixed to the chassis

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...portemotor.jpg

and because my chassis in thinner than the original i will use only one lipo so i will try to put everything in the middle escept the mamba esc. i will make a base in aluminium for base and to support that base near to the motor mount a will make this piece.

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/...uportelipo.jpg

maybe at the end the mgt work's fine :lol:

The Dude 04.11.2011 04:24 AM

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010755.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1010777.jpg

any news from Krawlin or Nms ????? :whistle:

Krawlin 04.15.2011 04:28 AM

Just finished putting it all back together to run it for the first time in months, but this time with a CCNeu 1520, and this thing really caught me off guard. I wasn't expecting a whole lot more power than what my Tekin truggy motor was putting out, and I was blown away by how this motor performs.

The body I had on the truck was new before I ran it, now it has extreme road rash. :mdr: I would say torque wise there is at least a 50% increase over the Tekin (just from my observations, I don't have any eagletree data stuff), and running a 10 tooth pinion, 1 tooth more than what I typically ran with the Tekin truggy motor, there seems to be about a 5 MPH top speed increase (the Kv is different between the two, Tekin was 1550Kv, 1520-CCNeu is 1600Kv). The Tekin truggy motor could throw this truck around like a rag doll, but this 1520 beats that rag doll like it's a red headed step child!

And the best part of all, the only thing that broke, was the splines stripped out of the plastic servo arm I had on it, not bad for the first run in a little under a year. Not to mention, my temps and runtime were great, ran it hard for a solid 10 minutes with no signs of battery fade, and at the 10 minute mark I checked the temps on everything. Outside ambient temps were 59*F, motor was 87*F, ESC temp with new continuous running 4.9CFM fan was 85*F, and battery temps were 75*F and 74*F. This 1520 runs cooler than the Tekin did, my guess is because it's more motor moving the same weight but not having to work as hard to do it because of the power increase. I'd say I have a pretty damn efficient setup though. :intello:

I promise I will get pictures of the truck tomorrow after I clean up the wiring a bit.


Other plans include using Savage Flux battery trays, shortening them, and machining the chassis to move them in towards the central tube of the chassis, and machine a section to move the servo inboard as well, find a new ESC mounting location and ditch the mud guards so I can run a narrower body to make it look right.

Stay tuned folks, and my apologies for disappearing for a while there, have had a busy schedule for the past couple of months.

The Dude 04.16.2011 04:05 PM

nice to see you're always here :yipi:

I'm waiting your pics, curious to see where you gone with your mill

I'm looking too for a way for centering my battery :yes:

at my last run I bend my second NewEra tower.... front bumper, servo case, bend the rear A-arm mount, and kill the body........:whistle:

and nms ???? where are you man ???? you're MGT must run at this time !!!

The Dude 05.09.2011 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krawlin (Post 404260)
I promise I will get pictures of the truck tomorrow after I clean up the wiring a bit.

:whistle::whistle:

The Dude 05.18.2011 10:37 AM

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1020220.jpg

just finish to clean the beast !!!:yipi:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1020212.jpg

I'm gonna test FFRC spring dual rate...

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1020214.jpg

and with the stock body (taped)

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1020224.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1020237.jpg

and you guys ??? how it goes for you ??

Krawlin 05.21.2011 09:23 PM

Sorry for the lack of updates lately guys, I am going to be selling this truck as a roller. Basically it's come down to the fact that it isn't the right truck for what I want to do when I bash, and thats doing big jumps and very rough terrain, and while it is a much better truck than the Maxx IMO, it's still no Savage, which really is the next step up in MT's in my opinion. The MGT does still have some of the weird designs similar to a Maxx, like poor steering geometry, not that much suspension travel (compared to a Savage or LST2), and the lower hinge pins are not supported completely on both sides of the arm, which still allows them to bend and puts it in the same boat as the Maxx. The upper arm mounts keep bending due to how close together the screws are and the lack of support of the upper arm mount where the pin goes through it. In other words, it's been a great truck, and it is much better than my old Maxx ever was, but it just isn't the right truck for me anymore, so it must go to fund other builds, like a 1520 powered 6S Savage XL.

I will be taking pics of it for a for sale ad tonight and I will post them in here to give the truck one final hurrah before it moves on to someone else. The pics of it will be of the setup that it has been running for about the past 3 months with no driveline issues what so ever (The MGT driveline is bullet proof) and has been alot of fun.

I don't want to cut this build thread short for the other guys though and I hope they continue posting their E-MGT's here, as it is a great source of information for others looking to convert their MGT with a center diff.

And the build process itself here has been excellent and I appreciate all the advice and help the other members here have given me, this is by far the best and most informative RC forum on the net with the best crowd I've seen to date. I'm not leaving for good, but it will probably be a few months before I start another build here as I am going to be picking up a Serpent S811T truggy over the summer and it will be nitro just like the rest of my fleet so I wont have much to contribute here for a while.

Be sure to check back sometime tonight for pics of the MGT.

Thanks,
Chris

Krawlin 05.22.2011 02:31 PM

Here are the pics....

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/DSCN1649.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/DSCN1650.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/DSCN1651.jpg



http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/DSCN1653.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/DSCN1654.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/DSCN1655.jpg

http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...n/DSCN1656.jpg

The Dude 05.23.2011 01:03 PM

:oh::oh:

so sad to see you're leaving yours MGT ....:neutral:

remember, a savage don't have a transmission like a MGT!! :na:

and for the steering you can mod this for a small cost
the upper A-arms mount I agreed, but with FullForceRC you got the solution...:yes:

But I'm sure you're going to do a nice work on your futur truck :yes:

but...here are some pics of my MGT at the track

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1030208.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1030184.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...5/P1030185.jpg

The Dude 07.11.2011 02:46 AM

the lastest version, for the spider diff

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1030730.jpg

now it's time to rebuild this beast !!:yes:

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1030738.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...4/P1030742.jpg

I filled it with 125K .. don't know if it right, time will tell :intello:

Krawlin 03.08.2012 09:48 PM

Well I'm back in with the MGT crowd. The Savage thing was cool for a while, but I got tired of my 1520 raping the HPI Bulletproof diffs (I shredded 3 properly shimmed BP diffs, ripped the teeth off the rear pinion of all 3), and the durability really wasn't that much better due to the Flux XL weighing in at about 15 pounds fully RTR. So back to the MGT it is, can't beat the ease of maintenance, bomb proof driveline, and of course the all mighty center diff. :mdr: The MGT will yet again be powered by a 1520, MMM, and 6S LiPo, Futaba 2.4 and an Ace servo for the controls. Cleaned up my center diff motor mount and had it powder coated a metallic blue and it looks awesome. I replaced the broken shock towers on it, next order of business will likely be aluminum knuckles machined for 8x16mm bearings, HPI Hellfire stub axles, and extended 17mm hex hubs so I can ditch the now outdated and overkill 23mm hexes.

I've been trying to think of a good name for the truck, since its pretty much stock aside from being converted to electric, "Plain Jane" maybe? :lol:

The Dude 03.09.2012 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 407143)

remember, a savage don't have a transmission like a MGT!! :na:


:whistle::whistle::whistle:

I sell my MGT a few month back:neutral:, 'cause my crawler take all my time and money :intello:

Krawlin 07.14.2012 10:12 PM

Selling my E-MGT, go back a page for pictures, its basically the same aside from having a 1520 instead of the 1717 shown, and the center diff motor mount is powder coated blue. I'll sell it as a roller or an RTR package, or as an ARTR with your choice of electronics, and it comes with quite a few spares. It's going cheap, priced to move out quickly, I'm just not into MT's anymore. Send me a PM for pricing.


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