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jordan... 11.25.2008 06:00 AM

Are you serious :gasp: I only saw the black and blue E-revo that guy made, not the G3R, thats freakin awesome. Can't wait to see some pics. Do you work up north at the mines or something?

BTW, i e-mailed Martin at MGM about replacing the heatshrink, how long does he normally take to reply?

SV6000 11.25.2008 07:53 AM

Yeah i work up north on the mines but i only do one week at a time. Martin is really quick to respond or someone else will, i got a response on sunday and monday just gone for an issue i was having with the BB-O3. By the way i was waiting to see how your motor was going to perform, i was thinking about getting one. I have a CF and AL version of the G3R. I could extend the AL version and put a 1527 in that. SO LET ME KNOW WHEN THE THING IS SORTED and i will meet with you to see how it goes first hand. I will be back in town next wednesday hopefully we will be able to meet up than.

jordan... 11.25.2008 08:49 AM

I just got a reply from Martin, awesome service, he said if i send it back to get it fixed up i wont void my warrenty and it should only take 2 days to fix. So i might do that tomorrow. I'm putting my order in for the gears tonight, so they should be here within 5 days. Im not sure if ill have the MGM back by next week, but i will have an MMM V3, so i might try that out. Hopefully it will be sorted ASAP, looking forward to running with your G3R. BTW, what do you do up there, ive got a couple of mates who are diesel mechanics, one's in Port Headland and the other is a couple hundred kms out of Karratha, i bet its fun on those 45*C+ days :wink:.

SV6000 11.25.2008 09:15 AM

Diesel mechanic, yeah 45*C+ days are great especially when you have to wear long pants and shirts:diablo:. but it beats being burnt by trubos and other things of the like:smile:

SV6000 11.25.2008 09:17 AM

Mate i would do the math on the V3. It is only rated for 120A, and considering your motor will pull 200+ amps on 6s i would hate to see you sending two speedies off for repair in the same week. Yeah hopefully you will get your speedy back from MGM soon. Not to rain on your parade but when i ordered mine from them it took 3 weeks to get to me:gasp:. so your probably looking at about 8 week turn around:gasp:

jordan... 11.25.2008 09:27 AM

Lol, hmmm... one guy on here a earlier this year ran one of these on an MMM V1 on 6s and said it pulled up ok :neutral: But i really do not want to be sending another one back :oops: Im expressing to and from MGM, so hopefully it won't take the 8 weeks :sleep:

P.S what is the best way to solder the motor wires directly to the ESC, just hold them together, get them hot, and make a big ball of solder around them?

lutach 11.25.2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SV6000 (Post 235867)
Mate i would do the math on the V3. It is only rated for 120A, and considering your motor will pull 200+ amps on 6s i would hate to see you sending two speedies off for repair in the same week. Yeah hopefully you will get your speedy back from MGM soon. Not to rain on your parade but when i ordered mine from them it took 3 weeks to get to me:gasp:. so your probably looking at about 8 week turn around:gasp:

Let him try it. Patrick said the Mamba Monster can handle any motor you throw at it. If it does fail, it still under warranty. He's getting new gears and this will tell the truth of the ESC's capabilities. I'm hoping it works so I can put my Mamba Monster in my BPP to try it out.

jordan... 11.25.2008 10:25 AM

hey Lutach, how do you think the new gearing will go, the 48/10 is geared for 43mph and the 46/12 is geared for 53mph. Do you think that will still overload the ESC? Should i start with the 48/10 or 46/12? Oh, and thanks for letting ME be the guinea pig :no: :lol:

lutach 11.25.2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jordan... (Post 235875)
hey Lutach, how do you think the new gearing will go, the 48/10 is geared for 43mph and the 46/12 is geared for 53mph. Do you think that will still overload the ESC? Should i start with the 48/10 or 46/12? Oh, and thanks for letting ME be the guinea pig :no: :lol:

You have Buggy diffs? I would change them to the Truggy diff first. Hot bodies' are 4.3:1 and Mugen's are 4.6:1. My truggy is geared for 34mph, but it was clocked at 46mph which is the exact MPH with 1" of tire ballooning. If you go with the truggy diffs, you can use the 46/10-12 or the 48/10-12 as well. Now the only way to be sure the ESC won't get over loaded with your monster motor is to try it out.

You can have the honor of testing the Mamba Monster to see if it truly handles anything you throw at it :lol:.

BL_RV0 11.25.2008 08:35 PM

I wonder if cc factored this into "anything".

thephilonator 11.28.2008 05:58 AM

what the hell?

you managed to melt the solder between the bullet and the wire. how?

i'm thinking that the amps pulled by the esc caused soo much heat that it melted the solder and then with the bullet barely touching the wire, thatn just made things worse. maybe completly wriong, just throwing it out there.

the truck look sexy in post #252

batts are FAT tho.

and you're asian eh? hi-5 i am too.

jordan... 11.28.2008 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thephilonator (Post 236741)
what the hell?

you managed to melt the solder between the bullet and the wire. how?

i'm thinking that the amps pulled by the esc caused soo much heat that it melted the solder and then with the bullet barely touching the wire, thatn just made things worse. maybe completly wriong, just throwing it out there.

the truck look sexy in post #252

batts are FAT tho.

and you're asian eh? hi-5 i am too.

LOL parents are from Singapore, but lived here all my life. I think the connection wasnt good in the first place, so there was arcing in the connector, thats why it was all black/burnt up. Im going to solder the motor to the ESC straight so that doesnt happen again.

P.S i just got home if you're wondering why im posting at 1:30 in the morning :drunk: :lol:

BL_RV0 11.28.2008 01:57 PM

:rules:
Where are the updates?!??! LOL

jordan... 11.28.2008 07:27 PM

Huh, ummm... not too much to say, i ordered the gearing which should be here early next week. Express postage still means 5 days when you live in Australia!! Hopefully i should get the MGM back at the end of next week or early the week after. I'm not too sure if i want to try the MMM V3 with this setup, im contemplating whether i should sell it while its still NIB

lutach 11.28.2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jordan... (Post 236865)
Huh, ummm... not too much to say, i ordered the gearing which should be here early next week. Express postage still means 5 days when you live in Australia!! Hopefully i should get the MGM back at the end of next week or early the week after. I'm not too sure if i want to try the MMM V3 with this setup, im contemplating whether i should sell it while its still NIB

Try the MMM. I want to see if it can handle anything you throw at it.

BL_RV0 11.28.2008 09:27 PM

It apparently can, except high voltage. :cry:

thephilonator 11.29.2008 04:44 AM

1:30 in the morning and you have the energy to bother to turn on the computer and post. i would have just slept, i'm usually buggered by 2am.

i reckon u should first check if killing the MMM by drawing too many amps is covered by the warrenty. then if it is (and it's written,not just some guy on the phone says so) then try it. if not, well then, your call.

postage is SOOOO :bad::bad::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr::grrrrrr: to Australia. took almost a month to get a padded envelope to me from chicago.:gasp:

:grrrrrr::bad:

jordan... 11.29.2008 05:50 AM

nah, i just leave my computer on the whole day, so it was on when i got home. Good point about the MMM, i had a look in the manual and it says the warrenty doesnt cover 'overloading' which im pretty sure excessive amp draw comes under.

Oh well, i expressed shipped my MGM to the Czech Replubic, cost $60, but should get there within three days, two days to fix the controller, and another three days back and it should be sweet. Hopefully thats how the timeframe works out anyway!

JERRY2KONE 11.29.2008 07:35 AM

Wishful Thinking.
 
Now that is wishful thinking. If you are lucky it will get there in like a week, and WHEN they finally do get around to troubleshooting your ESC, and maybe fixing it in a couple of weeks, then they will ship it back to you for another week or two of traveling time. With the Holiday season upon us you may see it sometime in the New Year IF you are lucky. You need to look at it from teh real world perspective and expect the worse, then if it arrives early you can be happy and celebrate. Good luck with that Jordan.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordan... (Post 237043)
nah, i just leave my computer on the whole day, so it was on when i got home. Good point about the MMM, i had a look in the manual and it says the warrenty doesnt cover 'overloading' which im pretty sure excessive amp draw comes under.

Oh well, i expressed shipped my MGM to the Czech Replubic, cost $60, but should get there within three days, two days to fix the controller, and another three days back and it should be sweet. Hopefully thats how the timeframe works out anyway!


lutach 11.29.2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thephilonator (Post 237040)
i reckon u should first check if killing the MMM by drawing too many amps is covered by the warrenty. then if it is (and it's written,not just some guy on the phone says so) then try it. if not, well then, your call.

Patrick said the Mamba Monster can handle any motor you throw at it. So if he said that, I guess it'll be under warranty. If it fails, then we will all know the limit and Castle would have to be more specific on what the ESC can handle. I'm sitting here just waiting for someone to try the ESC with one of the large 1527 or low turn 1521.

BL_RV0 11.29.2008 12:27 PM

You have a low turn 1521 and a MMM.

e-mike 11.29.2008 12:34 PM

i have 6 v3 in the house....but no 1521 or 1527....aarrrfffff:whistle::lol:so im confident that the v3 can hold a 1527:whip:

BL_RV0 11.29.2008 12:44 PM

I agree, aaarrrrrfffffff.

lutach 11.29.2008 01:36 PM

The only way to find out is to see someone actually try a Mamba Monster with one then.

e-mike 11.29.2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 237131)
The only way to find out is to see someone actually try a Mamba Monster with one then.


right...so there any test that we can make for know how much power or motor mmm can handle ????

lutach 11.29.2008 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by e-mike (Post 237134)
right...so there any test that we can make for know how much power or motor mmm can handle ????

I can run my V2 in my BPP with the 1521/1Y and 6S lipos, but it's a bit too cold. If I do run it, I'll get all the info such as data and a video.

e-mike 11.29.2008 01:45 PM

[QUOTE=lutach;237136] but it's a bit too cold. QUOTE]

why...the cold temp can affect the specs or data????

e-mike 11.29.2008 01:50 PM

so like ive said in other tread...i do my own test....i push my truck against the wall a i apply a very low trottle...so the esc work really hard to keep the tire spinning...and slipping at low trottle range...i never pas 155f on eacm unit

lutach 11.29.2008 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=e-mike;237137]
Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 237136)
but it's a bit too cold. QUOTE]

why...the cold temp can affect the specs or data????

No, it can affect me lol. I like hot weather.

e-mike 11.29.2008 03:22 PM

loll ok now i see why..:lol:

lutach 11.29.2008 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-mike (Post 237145)
loll ok now i see why..:lol:

One day if you have a chance, visit Governador Valadares in Minas Gerais, Brasil in the summer (Which is hottest in Jan. and Feb. down there) and you'll know exactly what I'm talking about lol. Some places in Brasil get up to 50C.

e-mike 11.29.2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 237148)
Some places in Brasil get up to 50C.

if one day i could..i will go in brasil for sure...!!!


outchhhh 50c:surprised:here we reach 35c maxx at the middle of july..so not to hard on the brushless set-up:yes:

BL_RV0 11.29.2008 04:44 PM

I wish I still lived in Canada.

e-mike 11.29.2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 237183)
I wish I still lived in Canada.

come to live here....im alone who run rc brushless truck..all the guy's here still in love with nitro:whistle:

BL_RV0 11.29.2008 05:43 PM

Naa, I'd move to BC.

TDC57 11.30.2008 03:01 AM

WOOOT, WOOOOT, WOOOOOOTT!!! :party::party:

She ALIVE!!!! YES!!!! :yipi:

Congratulation SIR.. :intello:

Now about your gearing (!!) :whistle:

You are using the same gearing I use on my buggy :no: , Jordan, gear the bad boy!.. :wink:

I'm running 24t & 52 spur. No heat issues at all on 6 & 8s (try this setup sir) :yes:


I'm stocked for you Jordan, it looks great too…

Great job all the way around..

Have a great weekend Sr..

Shaun.

P.S.
The last time i sent my controller to MGM it took 15 weeks..:gasp: Just and FYI.. :na:

jordan... 11.30.2008 07:49 AM

Wow, this discussion came alive while i was sleeping :sleep:, I've decided to run the MMM, i got the gears today and am going to get grinding tomorrow to refit the CD with the bigger spurs, so hopefully not to long before she's up and running again. After all the testing Lutach did with his ESC's it wont hurt for me to be the guinea pig with the MMM/152x motors.

@Shaun: you said you're running 52/24, is that on your G3R? What is your final drive ratio? Going on your gearing, the spur/pinion ratio is 2.167. With my previous/explosive gearing (42/16) its 2.625, so really you could say im geared lower. But with the reduction in the e-maxx tranny im pretty sure yours would come out as the correct ratio. If i could get your final drive ratio from Brian's calc i could work out an equivalent gearing on my truck.

@Jerry and Shaun: it could well take 15 weeks, but im just going off what Martin Dvorsky replied to me in his e-mail, he said once he gets it it should take a day or two to get repaired as it was an easy fix, hard to believe i know, but at least i'm trying to stay optimistic :eyes: :rofl:

thanks guys
jordan

JERRY2KONE 11.30.2008 07:56 AM

Maybe???
 
Just maybe MGM is trying to get a little better in dealing with its Anerican and Ausi customers in order to improve customer relations. You have to admit from all of the info posted up on here that ten to 16 weeks is a bit rediculous??? We to hope that yours comes back quicker Jordan.

jordan... 11.30.2008 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 237398)
Just maybe MGM is trying to get a little better in dealing with its Anerican and Ausi customers in order to improve customer relations. You have to admit from all of the info posted up on here that ten to 16 weeks is a bit rediculous??? We to hope that yours comes back quicker Jordan.


lol thanks Jerry, Im really impressed with their customer service so far after all the bad press ive heard on here. I e-mailed Martin and got a response within three hours :surprised: thats from the other side of the world. Hopefully the repairs go as smoothly as my conversations via e-mail with him.

TDC57 11.30.2008 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordan... (Post 237393)
Wow, this discussion came alive while i was sleeping I've decided to run the MMM, i got the gears today and am going to get grinding tomorrow to refit the CD with the bigger spurs, so hopefully not to long before she's up and running again. After all the testing Lutach did with his ESC's it wont hurt for me to be the guinea pig with the MMM/152x motors.

@Shaun: you said you're running 52/24, is that on your G3R? What is your final drive ratio? Going on your gearing, the spur/pinion ratio is 2.167. With my previous/explosive gearing (42/16) its 2.625, so really you could say im geared lower. But with the reduction in the e-maxx tranny im pretty sure yours would come out as the correct ratio. If i could get your final drive ratio from Brian's calc i could work out an equivalent gearing on my truck.

@Jerry and Shaun: it could well take 15 weeks, but im just going off what Martin Dvorsky replied to me in his e-mail, he said once he gets it it should take a day or two to get repaired as it was an easy fix, hard to believe i know, but at least i'm trying to stay optimistic :rofl:

thanks guys
jordan




Ok..
Your running the new V3 MMM right (??) :neutral:

And your using what 6 or 8 s ??? :neutral: (don’t even attempt) 10s Jordan :no: unless your doing Brian G mod and then some..:wink:

As for my final drive ratio (It’s late I'm going to bed) :lol::lol: I’ll get back to you tomorrow on that. It’s truggy diffs, single speed trans (Traxxas gears) on 6 -8s with a Neu 1515 3D S (polished) don’t forget that.. LOL.LOL.. and I can run the lipo’s down and still have no heat issues with 24 / 52… I can send you the gears if you want to try them out ?? Let me know it’s no big deal..

Yes stay optimistic.. Life is always better there.. :lol::lol:


P.S.
Are you 100% yet ??? :neutral:


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