Man, I didn't want to get involved. I go to rcm to read about rc, not get political rhetoric from people I have never met....

Ben, it's only about 7 people in this whole thread going back and forth getting all pumped about over-throwing the government, stocking up on canned food, collecting viruses (wtf?), underlying racist remarks, etc. This does not reflect the majority of the population. This represents a fringe. Much like the Tea Party. They are the "rightest of the white" (I mean right). They also bark the loudest to get their point of view across. Personally, I do not know anybody with the views expressed in this thread (My mother has been an RN for the last 30 years, and my stepdad is a die hard conservative, both are supportive of the reform).

I am not an extreme leftist (however I am a liberal). I agree we all should have jobs. It sucks we pay so much in taxes. What's happening in Washington is the biggest blunder in politics that I can remember (it goes both ways, it's not just Obama's fault) There are a lot of freeloaders here, but exterminating them or seceding from the union is a little much, no?

I am proud to be an american born 6T owner!

Truth be told.
 

Well one of the reasons I enjoy coming into RCM so often is because of the diverse cultrues and opinions we see in here. Not just for R/C info. Yes this is an R/C forum, but it is also a place where people who share a passion for the R/C hobby can share their views about anything. Sure some just get way too carried away with their attitudes and show their rear end a bit too much some days, but that is what a forum is for. I do not share the same views with alot of people here anymore than I do with the rest of the free world, but freedom of speach is just that (FREE). If something is not my cup of tea, then I just do not subscribe to that particular thread and move on to something more befitting to my taste. I don't try to put down any particular thread just because I am not happy with their views. If your not looking to get into the discussion, then why post in it at all?

As far as purging the undesireable people we used to have a system for that. It was called natural selection, eg, the kid who played in the street and ate lead paint did not get to grow up to have kids of his own. Now all we do is reward these people with free everything cause it is more "humane" (or some other crap manipulated word that is meaningless).

If you take away the rewards, the behaviour will change. I see alot of subpar people every day. Yes, I may be an elitist or have a "superiority complex" but really, most people are living the "bubble" life that was mentioned earlier. And that will not work well when all the "change" we have "hoped" for comes to pass.

I really cannot see where stocking up on food, guns and ammo is a bad thing. Food is food, and guns/ammo go up in value over time, recently much better than just about anything else. So even if there are not issues, at least you can eat the food and sell off the guns/ammo to buy other stuff (like hookers and booze) and that in itself will stimulate the economy, provided that you buy american (guns, hookers and booze).

Maybe I am wrong, but at least I am ready for something. Unless we get attacked by rainbows and love (guns are not effective to either) I should be ok. Or better off than some.

I'm with you man...Last time I counted there was 26 fully loaded guns in my house (even one full auto) and a few more couldn't hurt. I'm ready for WWIII over here...

Thank you for your funny post Tedo, I needed a good morning laugh!

If you really think people just "love" the new health care bill, maybe you should spend a little more time paying attention to things outside your bubble.

But hey, we're all right wing extremists so what do any of us know anyway.

I would like to know if your mother and father also approves Bill Gate's plan to reduce the population by 15% using vaccines and health care?

Speaking of vaccines check this out. 70 million+ doses of H1N1 about to expire:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,590269,00.html

Some vaccines are necessary, some aren't. But everyone should be well informed before getting any for you or your children. I think it's a personal choice which should be left up to the individual, not the law maker.

I know that every time I ever got a flu shot, within two weeks I was sick as a dog with the damn flu. The last 4 years I have not gotten a flu shot and guess what, NO FLU!

Only a few are basically needed, but everytime my daughter got a vaccine I questioned her doctor and no good answer came out of her mouth. More and more questions came when my daughter went from talking a few words most her age never say and starting to walk, to having her just say nothing, didn't want to try to walk or crawl and to doing basically nothing and her doctor had no answer. During that time, I had the usual weekly or twice a week a normal hospital go to do to my daughter just having high fevers.

Like I mentioned before here, if I get the actual vaccines to have them tested, the system will slowly crumble. The H1N1 scam back fired and you've seen the results. Countries getting angry for spending billions and other countries given free outdated H1N1 vaccines so they can inject who knows what in them.

This is an e-mail I recieved from a very respected composer who is expecting a child:

"Luciano -

Thank you for your well-wishes and email. D***** and I have investigated the vaccine/Autism link very carefully, and though we're not convinced there is an absolutely direct correlation between the two, we feel there is strong anecdotal evidence to suggest vaccines play a significant role. We're just not sure it's as simple as some suggest. Accordingly, our plan is to have our child vaccinated with the absolute minimum number that can be justified, after careful review of statistical probabilities for risk, ingredients, etc. As you are no doubt aware, most of the vaccines are either unnecessary, laden with dangerous levels of chemicals, marginally effective, or have severe side-effects. I do not remember the exact ones off the top of my head, but I think of the some 34-36 "usual" vaccines, we only found 1 or 2 to be reasonable and acceptible.

Thanks for your concern; we share it! All our best to you and your family,"

Vaccines are very difficult - I understand Luciano's situation and its hearting breaking but... vaccines do have a very large social wellfare element to them as without widespread vaccination they are proven to be ineffective.

It then becomes a very sad statistics issue - 1 in 1,000,000 complications from a vaccine vs how many people could die from a bug should it spread...

It is difficult to argues against smallpox vacines for example:

Do some research on the spanish flu for example - It is difficult to call H1N1 a non event / hoax when you see what could have happened and I personally believe will happen one day...


One thing I do disagree with is how much they give kids at once - The only reason they combined MMR is to reduce the number of doctors visits and hence reduce costs / avoid people not completing the course. I SHOULD have the choice to come back to the docs 6 times if I wish...

Never had a flu shot, and I have maybe had the flu 2 or 3 times in 30yrs. I get head colds, but they go in 4 days.

I stay away from the doctor, sick people go there all the time, you know...

Who or what are you guys anticipating an attack by??

Who cares whom it is, could be anyone,group etc. Being ready is the important thing and I agree 110%. My home may be modest but I'll defend it and my family till my last breath.

Our own government...

Some of the stuff vaccines are supposed to be good for I got naturally. A lot of the viruses and/or diseases are created in labs worldwide. How come the US has such a high number of vaccines (Not sure if the UK has the same amount)? How come countries that doesn't have as many vaccines and that are not produced by the companies protected by the US Government doesn't have high cases of Autism, Flu and other crap that you see happening here in the US? Why vaccines here have shown to have so much garbage in them?

I can end this and have much safer and productive vaccines if I can get my hands on all the vaccines given in the US. Very simple. The people who will be conducting the tests are waiting for them. Both my uncles have given me a lot of info on the subject and they are finding more and more info that are shocking them about the vaccines here in the US.

Keep in mind Autism is rare in girls. How will the US Government explain that the only generation being effected with Autism are my daughter's. Yes, she was the first of the new generation in both side of the families and now she has a younger cousin with Autism. How F****** odd. My brother saw what happened to my daughter and didn't let his son and daughter get all the vaccines, they're both fine and so are they're cousins.

+1

We can bring them down without violence and all it takes is a few proof. Let me get a hold of all the vaccines given in the US and you'll see that side covered which will put a few other related industry running to change their ways.