With 200kv you need 100Volts even to spin it as slow as a gas motor, are you working on a 30s ESC? If so how are you dealing with the safety aspect, 3x separate 10s pack inputs which are series connected internally within the ESC?

No, this particular motor and wind is for an airplane application, it wasn't designed for a car application. For car applications we will use a .5Y wind and probably a shorter rotor.

We don't want people playing with 100VDC sources. :lol:

This looked like a drone motor perhaps? ;)

Would a .5y wind double the kv? So this would be for use with the XL HV (my name for it, what are you calling it?) on 12s lipo?

Just wanted to say it is great having the "Big Cheese" of a company here answering all of our questions!!! Keep up the good work, I am sure it will pay off (literally)!!!

Sounds like the perfect motor for my electric bike!

Just need to find a 100v sensorless controller... :surprised:

That's not a problem. Just put a disclaimer on the package/site. And if people choose to ignore the warnings, well, that's when Darwin's theory takes over. :smile:

Seriously, nativepaul's suggestion of having three seperate power lead pairs for 3 10s packs sounds like a good idea. Just need something like a Hyperion 1030i "Trio+" (400w x 3) to charge them.

Parallel charging?

I personally don't like parallel charging. Heck, I don't even like 2p packs.

I understand, not having each cell monitored bothers me too, as I like to leave the charger alone while charging. I do not have the time or desire to watch it always.

Why Castle does always read my mind :yipi:

Would it be possible to have this motor with a 1" shaft on both sides ?
And "made" for Cars with this KV rating

Wow, scroll to the bottom of the page. Hell of a deal for any former or active duty military people. Full conversion combo plus two pinions $485.04 shipped.

Any chance for a 30% off flash sale say tonight for like an hour for non military?

http://www.bagramrcclub.com/

It's a great deal for active-duty and former military. If you have an ID card, or a DD-214, you qualify.

SGT, USAF, Patrick "RADAR" del Castillo
(honorably discharged, June 1991)

I tested my Mamba XL on Friday on our Indoor Track.
I put the Mamba XL in my RC8 to SC10 4x4 conversion

First of all, this is just a great ESC !
I love the way, how the logging setup works and how to get the data.

My "normal" setup is

RC8
Castle Creation Mamba Max Pro
Tenshock 2240/5 3100KV
Gearing 44/14
3S Lipo 6250 mAh +60C

Track: Indoor high traction carpet track @ RC-Glashaus.de

I guess, i use the MMP close to the edge...

It's a 2KW Racer :yipi:

:party:.Patrick, I just realized you were discharged from active duty as I was coming in :party::party:,

5 more months and I'll hit 20 years.

Anyway, thank you very much for the discount :party::party:

What about Others serving? Firefighters, emt's etc..

Just throwing it out there, My older sister is a firefighter.


Also, patrick- you have a pm! :)

Patrick, I contacted you about an issue I had. Your staff already has replacements in the mail to me today. I just got the Tracking number. Please tell Bernie in Tech Support thanks for his technical advice on Lipos...Tell Charles in Repair thanks for replying back to me and assuring me Castle would take care of me. You guys are absolutely TOP NOTCH. I would never considering buying any other brushless system. Castle....I am so impressed! Patrick...Thanks! -Kirk Hayes

i got my MMMXL today, to tell you the truth i am a tiny bit disappointed.

It didn't come with any of the MMMXL logo'ish stickers:lol:. just some of the yellow mamba's.

Other than that i love it so far. It is HUGE, in a good way, and the length of the wires is ridiculous. Well seeing as it is made for the baja i guess they would have to be big.

Only thing I'm not real happy with the XL I received so far is that the plastic end pieces are help in place only by the stickers on the XL, both of which are not very well stuck on....

I was happy of course to get a look inside the XL without having to separate the heat sinks :lol: but I think I see in the layout that some of the fets are not contacting the sinks? I'll take another look in a year or so when the warranty has gone :whistle: At this point there is no real reason as the highest temp I've registered so far was 111'f :party: and that was with longer than average periods of pulling 3220watts :surprised: (speed runs), it will never see that kind of use running around a track.

Patrick, do you have any idea about when the new Mamba XL will be available also on Hobby stores (including, for sure, RC Monster.com Store) other than on Your site ?

I'm asking this because I have to buy additional products (not Castle, sorry...) and I do prefer to make just one order to keep shipping cost as low as it possible.

Thanks in advance, Andrea.

Andrea,

We are working on it ... the distributors are not sure how to handle this item because it is unique -- nobody has a competing product. So they are a little wary about numbers, and are waiting for orders from dealers.

We are pushing them to take some units to test the market.

Thanx!

Patrick

How can they worried ?
I bet, if you fill up one shop here in germany, the stock will be empty within a day :party:

Worth a try... Send a truckload to Jakspeed-Racing.de :lol:

Since i got told, HorizonHobby have/will drop the distribution of Castle products... I hope not !

Well, quite strange position (that of distributors)....if they don't make an initial stock, they probably will not have any idea about potential sale volume of the XL (unless the buyers place many backorders on this - very unlikely to happen )...its a catch 22 :oops:

Well, I'll wait some weeks more and then I'll decide...

Bye, Andrea.

They seem to stock the ESC at tower

Got it :yipi:

Riko, a big thanks to You ! I had checked TH just half an hour ago and the Mamba XL status was "On Order"...

Bye, Andrea.

oh yes, Tower has it in stock in limited quantities, and it's Free Shipping! (but as always, not to Hawaii :cry:) I just placed my order, get yours before it's out of stock! If you add anything else over 1c to your shopping cart you can use the $50 off $300 coupon too, use 014CY...used to be $60 in 2010, oh well.

For the same value ($300) I got a $75 discount :yipi:..... but I have to add shipping (to Italy) and custom fee :cry:

Bye.

Rant for the day... Or you could get them from Mike!

On something like ESC's mike's always been competative with TH etc and seems freaking rude to post on his site that you are off buying from others.

Whilst margins are obviously much higher for buying direct even Patrick needs people to buy from retailers/distributers such as mike.

cool, but I am gonna buy all in once with Mike since he is capable to have everything I need in stock to ship at once.

+1 !!! Buy from Mike! It supports these forums!

Well, why is it that when ever I pull out a new toy to show it to a significant person something like this always happens???
Plugged in my XL, was beeping for a bit until I realized I hadn't plugged it into the receiver since downloading my last run...
plugged it into the receiver and it didn't arm. So I unplugged the batts from it, and plugged them back in.
Went through it's start-up routine just fine, armed, and I drove the car about 20 feet. It stopped wheels turned (like the BEC turned off) then came back to life, drove another 2 feet and FIRE!!! :cry:
My new super bad azz Mamba XL is dead, and it tried to take my car and lipo's with it. The batts appear fine aside from a little loss of heat shrink in a few spots and the receiver looks ok too.
I just plugged in my MMM and the car runs/ drives fine. Looks like I'll be spending some time on the phone tomorrow with Castle support.

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Aww man, that really stinks. :( I'm sure Castle will have you running again soon though. Luckily there was no harm to the motor or batteries. How many runs have you had on it? I've done two on mine and the only problem I've had was that I had to recalibrate it after a crash. Maybe it was the BEC since you didn't have it plugged in? Not sure if that would do anything though. :neutral: Best of luck getting your buggy running again.

I think it was a problem with the internal BEC, the way it shut down and started up again was just like the CC BEC did when I had the Savox servo go bad.
I'd turn then the car would shut off, then rearm and be good till I turned again.

I just can't remember if I heard it rearm, or just start moving again... I think it was quick enough that it didn't go through a start up cycle.

3 runs, and I kept the data from all 3. It was looking awesome! And I had intended to start ramping it down today to make it more track manageable.

What Lipos are you running? What C rating and brand. I have heard that as brushless systems get larger and larger...they actually need top-shelf lipos. Bargain lipos offer a good price, but a lot of "ripple" comes with them sometimes. When an esc goes up in flames..it is often times "ripple" that damages the electronics from sub par lipos. Just what I have read/heard.

Castle is a great company and will most likely take care of you., but be sure to talk to Bernie in tech support about the XL and lipo recommendations. Their support is second to none....Even with some failures now and then....I would not own another brushless system other than Castle. Wish you the best on figuring out the bugs...most likely it is your lipos. Guys running Hyperion G3 35-65c lipos have had good luck using Castle's line of BIG speed controls. If you figure something out...let us all know.

Lipos are turnigy 40/50c 5000mah 4s packs in series. The ripple current was good according to the data logger and the max amp draw it saw was right around 100a. This couldn't have been a load issue as I was barely running it out a little bit to get started playing. I was actually getting ready to order some smaller lipos as I didn't need 30+ minute run times as I needed a little weight back :-)

Yes, Castle has the very best service in the industry. That's why I haven't and won't be buying any "clones" during my rc days.

So the first one is well done...sorry to "hear" and see that. Good is that everything else is OK!
Well i guess it happens to best to...i had like 5x MMM V3 burned on 6S.. but support was more than great... so i never complain over CC, just hope this ESC can handle 6S as i am buying one in 12h (as here is night time) :)
Just in case i will use CC Bec Pro, maybe u should consider about one!?

Q: Does mamba xl comes with 6,5mm bullets already soldered on the wires?
Got 1520 waiting..

EDITED: Why didnt CC put together Mamba XL and Bec Pro or stronger Bec than it is at the moment?

I second this. Hyperion is all I use nowadays.

Is using a seperate BEC or even a RX battery a good idea that could prevent a meltdown like Drknow65 pictured? If so, I will gladly buy a LIFE RX pack. Any thoughts?

I'm only guessing about why it died :neutral: I really have no idea... I'm just going by intuition and the fact that the only thing different than any other time I used it was plugging it into the receiver after it was powered up. :neutral:

A bec failure would not I believe cause this FET failure.

Bummer dude! Upside is it's a cc product and you won't get hung out to dry, but soaked with support. Are you actually planning to race that setup? Just asking as it looks a mite heavy up front that's all.