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jayjay283 09.06.2008 12:42 AM

I Love Novak
 
I have a 15lb Muggy with big Joe tires and I want to run Novak because im loyal, What do you recommend as gearing for a 14lb monster truck with 8" 1lb each wheels ? (x4) its all roar right

coolrunnings 09.06.2008 03:26 AM

Novak has the smoothest sweetest brushless setups I've ever used, but they will thermal left and right in your truck. I still have my first novak...a 22 year old 410-hpc!

t-maxxracer32 09.06.2008 04:07 AM

hah ive used the goodole 410s and there very nice ESCs actually. (for the age)

sorry i cant help with the question just thought id give another thumbs up to novak

1maxdude 09.06.2008 05:35 AM

Which setup? HV I am assuming.

lincpimp 09.06.2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 209679)
I have a 15lb Muggy with big Joe tires and I want to run Novak because im loyal, What do you recommend as gearing for a 14lb monster truck with 8" 1lb each wheels ? (x4) its all roar right

Sarcasm???

Seems like it to me. If you are serious, I would go with the 6.5 system on 5s and gear as low as you can. You will need to go up to a 62t spur from the crt, and most likely a 14t pinion. Diff ratios are 11/45 in the muggy, and with 8" tall tires the stock 46t spur will not offer enough reduction, unless you use a 5-6t pinion....

TexasSP 09.06.2008 10:22 PM

No it needs 6s and he can use the stock gearing.

SpEEdyBL 09.06.2008 10:38 PM

7.5 on 6s w/ MMM esc is the ticket geared 40:1

NovakTwo 09.07.2008 12:27 PM

Surely, not sarcasm? :wink: But, there is an interesting question.

There are no ROAR rules affecting HV motors. I've heard that some guys are trying to cobble together some rules for 1/8th electric racing, but they will probably be wide open, anything goes.

I can check with Bob about the vehicle weights and the setups he used for his conversions We did this chart for winds/gears for the E-Maxx:

HV Pro System Speeds in E-Maxx

Here is the page for system/gearing suggestions for the various 1/8 Scale conversions:

Novak Nitro to Electric Conversion Kits

FDK8776 09.07.2008 02:34 PM

I'd imagine the gear ratios in an emaxx and an erevo are different. How would the emaxx chart differ if it were for an erevo? Higher or lower speeds?

(Hope I'm not thread stealing)

Thanks.

SpEEdyBL 09.07.2008 03:48 PM

Well a 12 tooth pinion with the stock spur yields about 30:1 in an E-maxx and the tires are 6" tall. Thats probably a good starting point for all HV motors so thats how I came up with 40:1 with 8" tires.

lincpimp 09.07.2008 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 210123)
Surely, not sarcasm? :wink: But, there is an interesting question.

There are no ROAR rules affecting HV motors. I've heard that some guys are trying to cobble together some rules for 1/8th electric racing, but they will probably be wide open, anything goes.

I can check with Bob about the vehicle weights and the setups he used for his conversions We did this chart for winds/gears for the E-Maxx:

HV Pro System Speeds in E-Maxx

Here is the page for system/gearing suggestions for the various 1/8 Scale conversions:

Novak Nitro to Electric Conversion Kits


I am sure that you have noticed the various Novak based "disagreements" of late on the forum. Is there any info as to the wattage output of the hv motor, on 4s lipo? I am assuming all of the winds will produce similar output is the same vehicle when geared correctly.

I only ask as many are either pro novak or not. Looking at the motor's design and dimension (I have a 6.5hv) it appears to be a good option for a 1/8 buggy or a 1/10 MT like an emaxx. I would not consider it an option for a truggy, or an 1/8 MT, due to the weight of these vehicles. I am assuming that most want a setup geared for around 40mph, and am going off my experience with heavier vehicles. I do not have a hv esc, mainly as the old model lacked the adjustability that I like. I do have a few gtbs and xbrs, and am happy to see the hv pro has the newer programming. Now if only I could get my hands on one for a really good price...for testing purposes:wink: :whistle:

lincpimp 09.07.2008 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FDK8776 (Post 210146)
I'd imagine the gear ratios in an emaxx and an erevo are different. How would the emaxx chart differ if it were for an erevo? Higher or lower speeds?

(Hope I'm not thread stealing)

Thanks.

The new emaxx and erevo use the same diffs, internal tranny ratios and tire heights. The novak gearing chart is related to the old emaxx though...

NovakTwo 09.07.2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 210168)
The new emaxx and erevo use the same diffs, internal tranny ratios and tire heights. The novak gearing chart is related to the old emaxx though...

I'm pretty sure the chart I posted up thread is for the new E-Maxx, although the new Traxxas part number should have been included in the copy. The new E-Maxx is the reason that we redid the HV shaft/rotor and tooled up the 5mm/32 pitch gears.

NovakTwo 09.07.2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 210166)
I am sure that you have noticed the various Novak based "disagreements" of late on the forum. Is there any info as to the wattage output of the hv motor, on 4s lipo? I am assuming all of the winds will produce similar output is the same vehicle when geared correctly.

I only ask as many are either pro novak or not. Looking at the motor's design and dimension (I have a 6.5hv) it appears to be a good option for a 1/8 buggy or a 1/10 MT like an emaxx. I would not consider it an option for a truggy, or an 1/8 MT, due to the weight of these vehicles. I am assuming that most want a setup geared for around 40mph, and am going off my experience with heavier vehicles.

I do not have a hv esc, mainly as the old model lacked the adjustability that I like. I do have a few gtbs and xbrs, and am happy to see the hv pro has the newer programming. Now if only I could get my hands on one for a really good price...for testing purposes:wink: :whistle:

The only thing I could find for wattage was the BL motor spec chart:

Novak Brushless Motor Specs

I'm sure that I haven't yet seen all the various Novak-based "disagreements"----I have to ration myself, or else I'll need to go have me a little "lie down"....:wink:

But I am composing an email to the engineers who can answer some of these questions. If you already have a 5mm rotor in your HV motor, PM me and I will see what I can do---I have pretty good contacts here.:yes:

lincpimp 09.07.2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 210178)
The only thing I could find for wattage was the BL motor spec chart:

Novak Brushless Motor Specs

I'm sure that I haven't yet seen all the various Novak-based "disagreements"----I have to ration myself, or else I'll need to go have me a little "lie down"....:wink:

But I am composing an email to the engineers who can answer some of these questions. If you already have a 5mm rotor in your HV motor, PM me and I will see what I can do---I have pretty good contacts here.:yes:

Some of the "wording" is harsh, and I do not agree with most of it. The basis for the arguments is too vague for me, and I will just stay out of it.

I will send you a PM... Thanks!


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