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jackson020 03.25.2010 06:40 PM

Mamba monster cogging
 
I have a converted Cen GST with a Mamba Monster ESC and am having a cogging issue.If the truck is stopped,it will not move unless I give it a tap with my foot.I dont have to move it hard,just a little tap does the trick.Once the truck starts though it goes like crazy.It has a ton of tourqe and runs about 35 mph.I am confused here.I thought if the gearing was so bad that I had to kick it to get it moving that there would be no tourqe.This truck wants to tear the rims right off of it.I am using a KB45-XL 700 KV motor,Mamba monster ESC,5s 20c Zippy lipo.I have a 66t spur gear and a 18t pinion.It has alot of tourqe and nothing seems to be getting hot.The battery gets slightly warm and that is it.Any suggestions?Thanks

nitrostarter 03.25.2010 07:45 PM

Man, that surely isnt a lit of rpms, less that 14,000?

bryan 03.25.2010 07:50 PM

I Dont think its the Momba Monster!

jackson020 03.25.2010 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryan (Post 357312)
I Dont think its the Momba Monster!

Any idea what it is then?

jackson020 03.25.2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 357311)
Man, that surely isnt a lit of rpms, less that 14,000?

Yeah,I had planned on running a different setup and then changed my mind.I had already purchased the motor though.I plan on changeing the motor and getting bigger batteries in the future.

nuz69 03.26.2010 10:05 AM

Probably bad timing, how many poles do you have with your motor ?

nitrostarter 03.26.2010 11:34 AM

The KB is a 2-pole motor in a 45mm can.

nuz69 03.26.2010 12:29 PM

Then timing must be at 0

jackson020 03.26.2010 01:47 PM

hi and thanks for the reply.I was thinking it may be a timing issue since there is plenty of torque.I will check to see that the timing is at 0.Any suggestions if that doesnt work?

nitrostarter 03.26.2010 01:48 PM

More voltage or different motor.

nuz69 03.26.2010 02:03 PM

Castle 1520 or 1717 motor ;) ;) ;)

SunnyHouTX 03.26.2010 02:41 PM

0 timing, and more voltage (around 8S - 10S) should do wonders with that motor. Of course, gearing will have to be changed according to voltage and speed you wanna run

BrianG 03.26.2010 03:23 PM

Like was said, the kv is way too low for 5s; only ~13000rpm. That setup would work if you were geared for around 10-15mph, but to get 35mph, you probably have a really high rollout ratio (geared tall) and the ESC is having a hard time to get the motor to spin fast enough to get a good rpm reading. Also, you are no doubt pulling quite a bit of current on start due to the tall gearing. You either need a higher kv motor, or run a different ESC and 10s (and then gear down to keep your 35mph speed).

jackson020 03.26.2010 05:10 PM

Thanks again for the response.I will just get another motor then.I am on a tight budget right now so I am going to have to stick with HobbyCity motor for now.Think 1500 KV would be a good motor and just use a smaller pinion?

SunnyHouTX 03.26.2010 05:51 PM

May be a little higher. Say around 1800Kv to 2000Kv for 5S


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