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anunaki 01.21.2012 02:44 PM

Traxxas xo-1!
 
Now that the traxxas XO-1's are in peoples hands...bottom line I wanna race.I have a ofna lx1e steve neu 1521 2 extra winds and i live in miami fl and race 300ft or better and would like to start the first race for franklin and then all or bust 3 franklins oh yeah half a franklin lock out fee so if you dont show or considerably late you owe half a franklin show up make your adjustments line up cash out.1/8 scale or bigger is what i race.line up i dare you seriously.Plastic melter

anunaki 02.05.2012 12:35 PM

OHHHS SHATT GUYS guess what ive beaten 3 not 2 but 3 traxxas XO-1's.Fifst of all i told you that nothing traxxas builds is ment for 100+ period !! Now lets see why ive beaten them....the XO-1 is not stable Dude i told those pea brain people at my local hobby shop at the time i first glanced at the XO-1 it was junk they said "why you hating"?I said the thing is a parachute damit they said "No its designed by a computer to plant the chassis on the road" then these dummies showed me the video of the car in a glass case fully enclosed doing 100+ woww now i see why nic case told me speed runs are for geniuses.I SCREAMED the cars in an artificial enviorment as soon as the natural elements touch this car its over and soo started the bets,my ofna lx1e pro mod vs the hobby shop's owners XO-1.GUYS it wasnt even close no XO-1 EVEN finished the race spinning out parachuting in the wind i mean great god damm i even raced one while i was using 4s.Now the last one i raced the guys XO-1 slid soooo farrrr he burned a hole..

anunaki 02.05.2012 12:48 PM

in his cars body look on you tube the car is basura so far the the traxxas XO-1's bought me a thunder power 65c pro race 5000 pack thanks traxxas! tip for all XO-1 owners spray teflon kevlar truck bed liner in the inside of the body it will stop so much flexing find it at any automotive store.total tally since XO-1's release ive made from racing 325 dollars,fasools,yen,euros,iras,puonds hahaaa.

Kirkinsb 02.05.2012 01:12 PM

I have a brushless RC8 buggy with a 1518 castle motor geared for about 70 and verified by GPS....but anyway...it is rock solid stable at 70mph. I can even throw it around back and forth at that speed swaying back and forth down my street.

It does not lift up and blow over...not even close...completely rock solid.

Now, I had a full bodied 1/8 scale LXE onroad car that would blow over at about 50mph if you nailed the gas. I sold it a week later because it was on its lid more than its wheels. Went back to my buggy and the stability it offers.

Something about the full body that acts like a parachute once a little bit of air gets under it. buggies just dont lift up and blow over like that.

I say the X0-1 owners should try to take the body off and all that crazy ground effects stuff that causes their cars to get airborn the second they go sideways off and find some type of buggy body. I bet the X0-1 owners will actually find more stability....with something other than a full body..... I could be wrong...would not be the first time...haha.

That is my experience with full bodies and such....my experience may not be what the masses have seen.

But something tells me the x0-1 would do better without the full body and flat bottom ground effects acting like a parachute.....All I know is my RC8 buggy has never even come close to blowing over at 70mph. And it is not even lowered!!!!

cmac 02.05.2012 03:58 PM

I believe that the engineers have done a good job with this on road car. The use the aerodynamics to help pull the car down to the road. Like a wing only in the opposite direction. The on road car that you had obviously did not have that benefit. They use some similar principles like the Indy cars. If you could invert an Indy car at speed it would hold the road because of this effect. I heard that these cars are a little unstable under 50 mph that is about when the ground effects start to kick in after that it sucks down to the road and is stable as can be. I have a Losi 8ight that will run just like your buggy and it too is stable at around 70 mph, I have not had it to 100mph, but I bet it would be a whole lot different. I'm sure it would not be as stable.

Kirkinsb 02.05.2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac (Post 417515)
I believe that the engineers have done a good job with this on road car. The use the aerodynamics to help pull the car down to the road. Like a wing only in the opposite direction. The on road car that you had obviously did not have that benefit. They use some similar principles like the Indy cars. If you could invert an Indy car at speed it would hold the road because of this effect. I heard that these cars are a little unstable under 50 mph that is about when the ground effects start to kick in after that it sucks down to the road and is stable as can be. I have a Losi 8ight that will run just like your buggy and it too is stable at around 70 mph, I have not had it to 100mph, but I bet it would be a whole lot different. I'm sure it would not be as stable.

Such a cool car...I am so torn on getting one. I like to drive aggressive and my road that I drive on is probably not smooth enough for the XO. Oh well.

Thirdgen89GTA 02.05.2012 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac (Post 417515)
I believe that the engineers have done a good job with this on road car. The use the aerodynamics to help pull the car down to the road. Like a wing only in the opposite direction. The on road car that you had obviously did not have that benefit. They use some similar principles like the Indy cars. If you could invert an Indy car at speed it would hold the road because of this effect. I heard that these cars are a little unstable under 50 mph that is about when the ground effects start to kick in after that it sucks down to the road and is stable as can be. I have a Losi 8ight that will run just like your buggy and it too is stable at around 70 mph, I have not had it to 100mph, but I bet it would be a whole lot different. I'm sure it would not be as stable.

1/8th scale wings are like open wheel F1/Cart/Indy cars. They produce mad amounts of downforce at the expense of high drag from the wing.

A 1/8th scale buggy at 100mph if it still had its original wing will be supremely stable. But it'll require a ton of power to reach 100mph, more than the XO-1 needs due to the massive drag the wing will generate.

Almost all of my old nitro cars that topped out around 55mph would gain another 5-7mph without the rear wing. With the rear wing at those speeds there was massive understeer.

Now fab up a mount and stick a 1/8th wing on the FRONT of your buggy too and it'll stick like glue to the road.

anunaki 02.06.2012 12:24 AM

hey man you're cool!
 
Hey 100% i agree with every thing you said to the t. My ofna would blow back also just like you said but i took off the "high downforce wing"which was made for tracks i put in a tri level wing and removed two levels because the wing dosent need downforce at least for me but as you say with the ofna high downfoce wing at 65 mph it blows back ,we call it dancing which is bad for racing really bad! As for the buggy's body i use industrial velcro all around and i have vented fully the body for positive air flow and cooling .The guy i raced took the body off too....... spinnnn outt it also needs weight!!!

anunaki 02.06.2012 12:47 AM

#YOUTUBE TRAXXAS XO-1 they dont go down the street.and as for1/8th scale buggy needing alot of power listen the traxxas XO-1s gearing is 34 tooth mod 1 pinnion gear and 44 or 46 spur or what ever on 25c batteries unless you swap em out now Im geared 33/44 with 65c batteries i honestly get 3 passes then kaput capice.FACT when a rc BUGGY goes 70mph the force is 80 to 90 pounds of pressure on the wing look at it like this a midget stands on our rc wing and a elephant stands on a top fuel dragster.

bruce750i 02.06.2012 01:26 AM

Congrats,

But we already knew that "pea brained" LHS workers don't know jack 95% of time. You said they never even finished a race. :lol:

josh9mille 02.06.2012 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by anunaki (Post 417535)
FACT when a rc BUGGY goes 70mph the force is 80 to 90 pounds of pressure on the wing.

FACT: that is totally false. For one the wing mount would most likely break with 80 pounds on it. Second of all the bottom of the buggy would be dragging on the ground since there is no way those little shock springs are going to support 80 pounds. Take the wing and mount off of your buggy and hop in the back of a truck and hold that wing up in the air, have your friend drive at 70mph and then tell us if you still think there is 80 pounds of downforce.

BrianG 02.06.2012 02:24 AM

Why not install a speed-sensitive wing that adjusts angle via servo?

Arct1k 02.06.2012 05:58 AM

Well I'll I'm not sure about if the wing stays will take 80lbs but the springs might as there is probably 70lbs of lift under the car to offset the downforce...

anunaki 02.06.2012 11:16 AM

[QUOTE=josh9mille

Listen dude i work on top fuel dragsters i refuse to argue with you but let me say this,can you name somthing that goes stupid fast that doesent have a wing?The degree/angle always determinates how much force the back wheels apply along with suspention or struts i.e "hookin upp".These brushless cars never hook up you could be at 80 mph and then..tire spin they skate the street the whole way unless you're a beast with throttle control then you wont smoke the tires.by the way what you wanna do wanna line up if the race is right ill fly you down here!

anunaki 02.06.2012 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417539)
Why not install a speed-sensitive wing that adjusts angle via servo?

SEE MANNN why did you put this idea in my B.G.huh now i have another project muhuu huu haha<evil laugh lets do it


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